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Offline jassi

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #210 on: April 29, 2018, 11:42:53 AM »
How many GNR officers responded that night, and surely they did not all use their own cars?

I've only ever seen mention of two that night. When did the PJ first arrive?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #211 on: April 29, 2018, 11:52:49 AM »
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id258.htm

GNR officers' statements.
As Jassi said, one patrol car carrying 2 GNR officers & one supervisor at HQ were the only ones on duty that night. We can only speculate who would have dealt with any major disturbances in Lagos.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #212 on: April 29, 2018, 11:57:27 AM »
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id258.htm

GNR officers' statements.
As Jassi said, one patrol car carrying 2 GNR officers & one supervisor at HQ were the only ones on duty that night. We can only speculate who would have dealt with any major disturbances in Lagos.

Based on their responsibilities as detailed early, not an unrealistic manning level. IMO
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #213 on: April 29, 2018, 12:03:47 PM »
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id258.htm

GNR officers' statements.
As Jassi said, one patrol car carrying 2 GNR officers & one supervisor at HQ were the only ones on duty that night. We can only speculate who would have dealt with any major disturbances in Lagos.

Response from other areas, I suppose. Rather like how the UK Fire Service works.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #214 on: April 29, 2018, 12:15:11 PM »
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id258.htm

GNR officers' statements.
As Jassi said, one patrol car carrying 2 GNR officers & one supervisor at HQ were the only ones on duty that night. We can only speculate who would have dealt with any major disturbances in Lagos.
Lagos is PSP.
What's up, old man?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #215 on: April 29, 2018, 12:25:12 PM »
GNR Search and Rescue
PJ Murder and Kidnapping

Seems reasonable when someone goes missing to send the GNR in first.

 Which raises the question as to why Kate -who knew right away he daughter was abducted by the,moving door, window/shutters open and whooshing curtains- didn't call a 999 number [or equivalent] to relay this urgent message.  What was being said and looked like being believed  at those inotial hours;was MBM has got out of the apartment and wandered off. That story soon changed.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline sadie

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #216 on: April 29, 2018, 03:05:46 PM »
Which raises the question as to why Kate -who knew right away he daughter was abducted by the,moving door, window/shutters open and whooshing curtains- didn't call a 999 number [or equivalent] to relay this urgent message.  What was being said and looked like being believed  at those inotial hours;was MBM has got out of the apartment and wandered off. That story soon changed.

That was almost certainly being said to console kate IMO.  Of course the Tapas friends would very quickly realise that an abduction had taken place [but keep it from Kate (and Gerry)!] IMO. Best to search to make sure that Madeleine hadn't been abandoned anywhere.

Offline Brietta

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #217 on: April 29, 2018, 03:30:59 PM »
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id258.htm

GNR officers' statements.
As Jassi said, one patrol car carrying 2 GNR officers & one supervisor at HQ were the only ones on duty that night. We can only speculate who would have dealt with any major disturbances in Lagos.

I think it was the perfect storm.

I've lost the cite given by you some time ago, of Madeleine's disappearance coinciding with a huge police celebration the previous day complete with police dogs et al in conjunction with what police who were on duty that night being diverted to check out an alarm going off elsewhere.

Maybe the diversion if there was one, was to cover for something else entirely and unrelated to Madeleine's disappearance, on the other hand, did anyone check out the coincidence?

When Joana Cipriano disappeared a fair was being held in her home village close to Luz.
Snip
 Ophelia Zeferino helped, incidentally, the family trying to find the child, the night she disappeared, walking the neighbourhood, and even looking to find her among the people who were at the fair that was in the village.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3031.msg109624#msg109624
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #218 on: April 29, 2018, 03:52:59 PM »
I think it was the perfect storm.

I've lost the cite given by you some time ago, of Madeleine's disappearance coinciding with a huge police celebration the previous day complete with police dogs et al in conjunction with what police who were on duty that night being diverted to check out an alarm going off elsewhere.

Maybe the diversion if there was one, was to cover for something else entirely and unrelated to Madeleine's disappearance, on the other hand, did anyone check out the coincidence?

When Joana Cipriano disappeared a fair was being held in her home village close to Luz.
Snip
 Ophelia Zeferino helped, incidentally, the family trying to find the child, the night she disappeared, walking the neighbourhood, and even looking to find her among the people who were at the fair that was in the village.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3031.msg109624#msg109624
3rd May 2007 was the 96th anniversary of the GNR.  It was celebrated with a parade in Lisbon, in front of the then prime minister, José Socrates.

It was also the first time that the GNR celebrated this event in Albufeira.  A dog team from Portimão took part in the event.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #219 on: April 29, 2018, 05:38:10 PM »
3rd May 2007 was the 96th anniversary of the GNR.  It was celebrated with a parade in Lisbon, in front of the then prime minister, José Socrates.

It was also the first time that the GNR celebrated this event in Albufeira.  A dog team from Portimão took part in the event.

Thank you.

I have seen photographs from the event ... a real family day included among all the official events if I remember correctly ... and a very big deal at the time.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #220 on: April 29, 2018, 05:44:58 PM »
Lagos is PSP.

Fair enough - but if 2 GNR patrolmen are covering all the rural areas around Lagos, how many would be on duty to cover any disturbances in the town?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #221 on: April 29, 2018, 07:06:16 PM »
Fair enough - but if 2 GNR patrolmen are covering all the rural areas around Lagos, how many would be on duty to cover any disturbances in the town?
I have no idea how many PSP officers were on duty to cover Lagos that night.

No GNR were on duty to cover Lagos, because it is covered by the PSP, not the GNR.
What's up, old man?

Offline misty

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #222 on: April 29, 2018, 07:34:29 PM »
I have no idea how many PSP officers were on duty to cover Lagos that night.

No GNR were on duty to cover Lagos, because it is covered by the PSP, not the GNR.

So if someone goes missing in Lagos town, the GNR stationed there (according to the phone directory) wouldn't be the ones deployed first?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #223 on: April 29, 2018, 08:13:04 PM »
So if someone goes missing in Lagos town, the GNR stationed there (according to the phone directory) wouldn't be the ones deployed first?
No, its PSP territory.  Large towns and cities are PSP then PJ.
What's up, old man?

Offline Angelo222

Re: The name calling which marks this case out.
« Reply #224 on: April 30, 2018, 10:38:01 AM »
Which raises the question as to why Kate -who knew right away he daughter was abducted by the,moving door, window/shutters open and whooshing curtains- didn't call a 999 number [or equivalent] to relay this urgent message.  What was being said and looked like being believed  at those inotial hours;was MBM has got out of the apartment and wandered off. That story soon changed.

I think the police were right the first time.  It was Tanner who put a spanner in the works with her claim that the man she saw had carried Maddie off, subsequently discounted by DCI Redwood. If anyone poo poo'd the initial efforts it was Tanner. 
« Last Edit: April 30, 2018, 10:40:35 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!