Crecheman's identity finally revealed

[Innominate]

That is why I say we need a statement from Totman saying where he was actually going.  I could imagine that he had already been home and was going out again, maybe to a friends place close by carrying the little girl.  If it was him, but we should have that from his own words.

There is the Crimewatch transcript - not as good as a full statement, but this is it:

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22 10

AMROLIWALA

The British father had collected his two-year-old daughter from the crèche. He had been walking near the McCanns’ apartment.

PHOTOGRAPH SHOWN

This is the actual photograph taken by Metropolitan Police Officers of the man dressed in the kind of clothes he wore on holiday. This image was compared to the artist’s impression [based on Jane Tanner’s statement].

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The strong probability is that he was returning to the apartment, but nothing is absolutely certain.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Russell O’Brien puts Gerry as leaving at around 9pm ( from your post )

From Dianne Webster’s May 11th statement.

‘- That night she judges to have arrived at the restaurant close to 21:00, in the company of the PAYNE couple.
- That, at that time, the whole group were at the restaurant. The witness did not recall, but thinks that perhaps Gerald and MATT had not been in the restaurant along with the other members of the group. ‘

So that’s two of the group that place Gerry away from the table around 9.

And also from Dianne Webster.

‘She clarifies that the practice was for each couple to check their own children, it not being usual for anyone to check the children of other couples.’

So IMO potentially Gerry and not Matt could have checked his children at 9.30.

This IMO would explain why Gerry was behaving normally while chatting with Wilkins. If the disappearance was discovered at 9.30 IMO it would also explain the earlier searching as described by several witnesses.

And potentially JT saw the man at 9.05 or 9.10, not 9.15, when she walked past Gerry and Jez, or is her time of 9.15 for the sighting the only part of her “unreliable” statement you choose to believe?

[faithlilly]

And potentially JT saw the man at 9.05 or 9.10, not 9.15, when she walked past Gerry and Jez, or is her time of 9.15 for the sighting the only part of her “unreliable” statement you choose to believe?

Don’t you believe her ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Don’t you believe her ?

You don’t and that’s the point.  You don’t seem to think she is being truthful about seeing Gerry at the same time as the man carrying the child, yet you seem certain it was 9.15pm when this (non) event occurred.  Why is that?

[slartibartfast]

McCanns set off for the Tapas around 20:30
JT set off for the Tapas around 20:30
JW talked to GM at or after 20:45

[faithlilly]

You don’t and that’s the point.  You don’t seem to think she is being truthful about seeing Gerry at the same time as the man carrying the child, yet you seem certain it was 9.15pm when this (non) event occurred.  Why is that?

I asked did you believe her statement ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I asked did you believe her statement ?

And If you look back at my first post of the day I asked you a question which you answered with a question.  When you have answered it, I will give my reply.

[faithlilly]

And If you look back at my first post of the day I asked you a question which you answered with a question.  When you have answered it, I will give my reply.

From your first post of the day it would appear you don’t believe Tanner’s own timings. Why ?

[jassi]

Where is the proof the timeline changed dramatically.

When Tannerman appeared kosher, it placed the snatching of Madeleine to around 9.15. Once that was blown away, the window of opportunity widened to include another 40 minutes or so.

[Vertigo Swirl]

From your first post of the day it would appear you don’t believe Tanner’s own timings. Why ?

And still you refuse to answer.  As I said before, you have my word that I will give you a full and frank reply to your question, once you do the courtesy of replying to the question that I asked you first.  I think that’s fair isn’t it?

[Robittybob1]

When Tannerman appeared kosher, it placed the snatching of Madeleine to around 9.15. Once that was blown away, the window of opportunity widened to include another 40 minutes or so.

OK so that wasn't Jane's doing.  I sort of get what MTI was meaning now.

[Robittybob1]

Good luck.

[faithlilly]

And still you refuse to answer.  As I said before, you have my word that I will give you a full and frank reply to your question, once you do the courtesy of replying to the question that I asked you first.  I think that’s fair isn’t it?

I am not refusing to answer. I have in my previous posts but just in case you missed it.

Taking into account Tanner’s own timings with O’Brien, Wilkins and Webster’s statements it is possible that Gerry’s check was around 9pm and Tanner’s after he had returned.

[Heriberto Janosch]

From the Sun:

<<< But one retired Met Police detective, who visited the resort with The Sun, is convinced Jane Tanner saw the real abductor. Ian Horrocks said the man Ms Tanner saw had been walking from west to east, while Dr Totman would have gone the opposite way. He added: “The police seemingly dismissed this sighting after discovering the account of the British holidaymaker taking his daughter back to their apartment. “I cannot see how it can be totally dismissed.” >>>

I agree, and imo JT saw an abductor at 21:50 approximately.

I have reasons to think so. This reasons include JT sick daugther and ROB interest in preparing timelines that very same night.

[faithlilly]

From the Sun:

<<< But one retired Met Police detective, who visited the resort with The Sun, is convinced Jane Tanner saw the real abductor. Ian Horrocks said the man Ms Tanner saw had been walking from west to east, while Dr Totman would have gone the opposite way. He added: “The police seemingly dismissed this sighting after discovering the account of the British holidaymaker taking his daughter back to their apartment. “I cannot see how it can be totally dismissed.” >>>

I agree, and imo JT saw an abductor at 21:50 approximately.

I have reasons to think so. This reasons include JT sick daugther and ROB interest in preparing timelines that very same night.

Yet Tanner has never claimed she saw her sighting at 9.50pm. Please explain your conclusions ?