Crecheman's identity finally revealed

[Vertigo Swirl]

The PIs believed the fund resources should have been focused on Smithman. They felt Tanner was an unreliable witness

Cite? 

[faithlilly]

Cite?

From the McCanns and the Conman.

Tim Craig-Harvey: My understanding is that it was felt that she wasn't as credible a witness as we had hoped. Witnesses will give evidence thinking that that is what they saw or understood at the time which is quite often inaccurate. And so Jane Tanner having said “This is the guy that I saw”, it may just have been that she so wanted to help that she fooled herself.

[Eleanor]

No we don't, but it seems some people want them to stop. The so-called 'sceptics' have been accused of trying to discredit/stop OG, but they have never had the ear of the MSM, so who is driving this agenda?

All of The McCann Supporters that I know of are perfectly happy with the investigation, and understand why we are not being told.  What has MSM got to do with this?  They don't know either.

[Vertigo Swirl]

From the McCanns and the Conman.

Tim Craig-Harvey: My understanding is that it was felt that she wasn't as credible a witness as we had hoped. Witnesses will give evidence thinking that that is what they saw or understood at the time which is quite often inaccurate. And so Jane Tanner having said “This is the guy that I saw”, it may just have been that she so wanted to help that she fooled herself.

Not sure who Tim Craig-Harvey is but it turns out they were all wrong as JT has been vindicated.  She DID see a man carrying a child in the vicinity on the night Madeleine went missing and was not therefore fooling herself. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

No we don't, but it seems some people want them to stop. The so-called 'sceptics' have been accused of trying to discredit/stop OG, but they have never had the ear of the MSM, so who is driving this agenda?

What agenda?

[Mr Gray]

No we don't, but it seems some people want them to stop. The so-called 'sceptics' have been accused of trying to discredit/stop OG, but they have never had the ear of the MSM, so who is driving this agenda?

Sceptics have no influence to direct anything afaiaac..
I dont see any agenda.... The press just, want a good story... That's the only driving force

[Mr Gray]

What agenda?

Snap

[faithlilly]

Not sure who Tim Craig-Harvey is but it turns out they were all wrong as JT has been vindicated.  She DID see a man carrying a child in the vicinity on the night Madeleine went missing and was not therefore fooling herself.

You asked for a cite and you were given one.

Isn’t it strange Totman doesn’t mention seeing either Tanner, Gerry was Wilkins, especially if Gerry was on the opposite side of the road from the apartment as he claimed.

[G-Unit]

Snip
In October 2007 the McCanns put out a sketch of the Tannerman but Mr Totman had already told the Guarda Nacional Republicana in May that it was probably him but they kept looking for the suspect.

It was only in 2011 after Scotland Yard took over the investigation that Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood, who led the probe from Britain, described a 'moment of revelation' when they became 'almost certain this sighting [Tannerman] is not the abductor.'
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Julian Totman's wife Rachel, who lives with her husband in the West Country, has revealed that police had never contacted them.

She told The Sun: 'My husband had told the local police it could be him but we didn't hear anything for years.

'We always thought it was Julian who was seen by Jane Tanner. But the national police who investigated didn't get back to us and we don't know if our information was ever passed on.'   

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5698933/Madeleine-McCann-police-spent-four-years-trying-ID-man-GP-said-him.html#ixzz5EzgG4cGA


Dr Totman apparently "outed" himself in May 2007 ... the fact that apparently nothing came of the information he imparted at that time is a question for the investigators of that time to answer.

Accusing the GNR is easy to do but hard to prove. If the Totmans thought they had relevant information there were many ways for them to contact the investigators. The PJ were in block 6, and people who weren't OC guests managed to find them, like Derek Flack.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DEREK_FLACK.htm

Many many phone numbers were advertised which the Totmans could have rung. They could have contacted their home police force as Carole Tranmer did.

 I telephoned the Windsor police and told them, more or less, what I had told him and to my family. They told me that they would give me a number to call the Leicester police.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROL_TRANMER.htm

The Totmans did nothing until tracked down, apparently, by OG 4 or 5 years later. If they thought he was the man seen by Jane Tanner they have to accept that they didn't do enough in my opinion. .

[jassi]

You asked for a cite and you were given one.

Isn’t it strange Totman doesn’t mention seeing either Tanner, Gerry was Wilkins, especially if Gerry was on the opposite side of the road from the apartment as he claimed.

I'm sure there'll be a perfectly innocent explanation.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You asked for a cite and you were given one.

Isn’t it strange Totman doesn’t mention seeing either Tanner, Gerry was Wilkins, especially if Gerry was on the opposite side of the road from the apartment as he claimed.

Thank you for your cite, it's kind of you to provide it, though I don't think it necessarily proves the private investigation believed Tannerman to be irrelevant and had dismissed it entirely, especially as the cite seems to come from a third party and his understanding rather than from the horse's mouth as it were.
As JT did not mention Tannerman looking down the hill in her direction I don't think it's hugely strange that Totman didn't mention seeing any of the protagonists you mention.

[jassi]

Would he not want to check for traffic before crossing the road ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Accusing the GNR is easy to do but hard to prove. If the Totmans thought they had relevant information there were many ways for them to contact the investigators. The PJ were in block 6, and people who weren't OC guests managed to find them, like Derek Flack.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DEREK_FLACK.htm

Many many phone numbers were advertised which the Totmans could have rung. They could have contacted their home police force as Carole Tranmer did.

 I telephoned the Windsor police and told them, more or less, what I had told him and to my family. They told me that they would give me a number to call the Leicester police.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROL_TRANMER.htm

The Totmans did nothing until tracked down, apparently, by OG 4 or 5 years later. If they thought he was the man seen by Jane Tanner they have to accept that they didn't do enough in my opinion. .

IMO most expat holidaymakers giving information to the GNR would believe that they had spoken to the police and that information would be flagged to the investigating team. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Would he not want to check for traffic before crossing the road ?

Did JT say he turned his head in her direction?

[jassi]

As Totman is clearly Innocentman, no real damage done.

Pj weren't interested in Tannerman and OG soon lost interest.