NB's Gunshot and Non-Gunshot Injuries

[IndigoJ]

I just do not believe that confronted with a psychotic SB that the action NB takes is to go downstairs and phone JB leaving SB upstairs with the other more vulnerable members of the family, and she having a gun in her hand, that does not ring true imo

[IndigoJ]

I guess for the same reasons PS Bews, first respondent at WHF, didn't break-in but called for back up instead.

that's a totally different scenario, he was a police officer with protocol to follow , NB was not.

[adam]

There are a couple of theories of what Sheila was doing when Nevill said his 11 words to Bamber.

David believes Nevill phoned Bamber after Sheila started shooting the twins. JackieD says Sheila was 'marching around WHF'.

Most supporters refuse to give an opinion.

[Holly Goodhead]

I just do not believe that confronted with a psychotic SB that the action NB takes is to go downstairs and phone JB leaving SB upstairs with the other more vulnerable members of the family, and she having a gun in her hand, that does not ring true imo

Imo you're right not to believe NB went downstairs to phone JB as all the forensic and pathological evidence supports NB and SC downstairs.  NB calls JB: "Sheilas gone crazy, she's got the gun".  Meanwhile SC goes upstairs and inflicts 5 or 6 not immediately fatal gsw's on June.  NB puts the phone on worktop and goes upstairs where SC inflicts 2 not immediately fatal gsw's to his face whilst he is stood on the landing.  NB turns to retreat downstairs and SC inflicts 2 further gsw's: shoulder and elbow/chest whilst NB is on the stairs.  NB gets as far as the kitchen with SC in pursuit but with an empty rifle she uses it to wield blows on a very badly injured NB.  NB ceases to move and SC reloads to inflict the 4 gsw's to NB's head. 

The above is all supported by the totality of forensic and pathological evidence: blood stains, casings, distance of shots, gsw trajectories and wound tracks.

[Holly Goodhead]

that's a totally different scenario, he was a police officer with protocol to follow , NB was not.

I believe the protocol in such circumstances is based on protection of self and others which I guess is common sense.  Don't see how it would be different for NB? 

Some will say well why didn't NB call police.  I don't know why he didn't.  Maybe he was ashamed he had a mentally ill adopted daughter.  Adoption and mental illness were taboo subjects 30 odd years ago.  Maybe he didn't want the authorities turning up at WHF for whatever reason(s) eg opium poppies grown at WHF supposedly under licence for the pharma industry and/or firearms not kept as they should be.   

[Caroline]

I believe the protocol in such circumstances is based on protection of self and others which I guess is common sense.  Don't see how it would be different for NB? 

Some will say well why didn't NB call police.  I don't know why he didn't.  Maybe he was ashamed he had a mentally ill adopted daughter.  Adoption and mental illness were taboo subjects 30 odd years ago.  Maybe he didn't want the authorities turning up at WHF for whatever reason(s) eg opium poppies grown at WHF supposedly under licence for the pharma industry and/or firearms not kept as they should be.   

Nevil never got the chance.

[IndigoJ]

I believe the protocol in such circumstances is based on protection of self and others which I guess is common sense.  Don't see how it would be different for NB? 

Some will say well why didn't NB call police.  I don't know why he didn't.  Maybe he was ashamed he had a mentally ill adopted daughter.  Adoption and mental illness were taboo subjects 30 odd years ago.  Maybe he didn't want the authorities turning up at WHF for whatever reason(s) eg opium poppies grown at WHF supposedly under licence for the pharma industry and/or firearms not kept as they should be.   

NB would have been to protect his family then himself imo he was not in the same position as an independent police officer

[IndigoJ]

Nevil never got the chance.

I think this the more likely explanation

[IndigoJ]

Imo you're right not to believe NB went downstairs to phone JB as all the forensic and pathological evidence supports NB and SC downstairs.  NB calls JB: "Sheilas gone crazy, she's got the gun".  Meanwhile SC goes upstairs and inflicts 5 or 6 not immediately fatal gsw's on June.  NB puts the phone on worktop and goes upstairs where SC inflicts 2 not immediately fatal gsw's to his face whilst he is stood on the landing.  NB turns to retreat downstairs and SC inflicts 2 further gsw's: shoulder and elbow/chest whilst NB is on the stairs.  NB gets as far as the kitchen with SC in pursuit but with an empty rifle she uses it to wield blows on a very badly injured NB.  NB ceases to move and SC reloads to inflict the 4 gsw's to NB's head. 

The above is all supported by the totality of forensic and pathological evidence: blood stains, casings, distance of shots, gsw trajectories and wound tracks.

Only if you believe Sheila did it , the above could equally fit if JB did it