It has never been explained why Julian Totman was walking the wrong way?

[G-Unit]

So yet another two witnesses lying through their teeth?  There you go then ;)

I don't think you can blame the witnesses. They didn't claim to have given any evidence to the PJ, that was you.

[faithlilly]

That wasn’t your original view though was it?  You did used to think the Met made up Innocentman to put the willies up the McCanns live on Crimewatch didn’t you?

I don’t remember ever having that view. Do you have a cite ?

[kizzy]

Please provide the link.  Thankyou

Sorry thought i had.



https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don’t remember ever having that view. Do you have a cite ?

I doubt any such cite was allowed to stay on the forum for long but if you say you never believed that then I  stand corrected.  It's good to know though that you don't believe Andy Redwood and the Met are playing games with the general public by inventing stuff and putting it on Crimewatch because crazy as it sounds some people actually have suggested it!! 

[Brietta]

I don't think you can blame the witnesses. They didn't claim to have given any evidence to the PJ, that was you.

Please note ... I have provided a link in which a witness states she and her husband reported their circumstances on the evening of 3rd of May 2007 to the police.

I am of the opinion that your posts are designed to refute what the Totmans have said about reporting the information they held about the night Madeleine disappeared to the police.

Either that is the thrust behind your insistence that the PJ were never given said evidence.  Or that the police who were given the information failed to follow protocol and pass it up the line to the ultimate destination of the PJ and the case coordinator.

So what is it you are questioning?

The veracity of the witnesses or the competence of the police?

[Brietta]

Sorry thought i had.



https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html

It is also available here  http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AMARAL_DOC_13_04_09.htm

However I can certainly see why you might have had a selective memory thingy by forgetting to add where it came from and what it actually was.

[slartibartfast]

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about.  However ... 

You posted
His wife said he told the police (the GNR in previous posts). http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9601.msg465370#msg465370

In the post to which you refer I mentioned GNR based on the following link
"In October 2007 the McCanns put out a sketch of the Tannerman but Mr Totman had already told the Guarda Nacional Republicana in May ... " http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5698933/Madeleine-McCann-police-spent-four-years-trying-ID-man-GP-said-him.html

Being aware that neither she nor the journalist in all probability had any idea about PSP - GNR - PJ, I qualified that with a caveat in a future post.
In fact Mrs Topman is quoted only as referring to "police".

Is that OK for you?

You mentioned the GNR in your post and now obviously have changed your mind...

See... here

[Alice Purjorick]

Why did you ridicule Jane Tanner’s sighting before it was known that he was a tourist?  Do explain.

Show me where I said "I ridiculed or even implied ridicule of Jane Tanner's sighting" in my recent post above.

[G-Unit]

Please note ... I have provided a link in which a witness states she and her husband reported their circumstances on the evening of 3rd of May 2007 to the police.

I am of the opinion that your posts are designed to refute what the Totmans have said about reporting the information they held about the night Madeleine disappeared to the police.

Either that is the thrust behind your insistence that the PJ were never given said evidence.  Or that the police who were given the information failed to follow protocol and pass it up the line to the ultimate destination of the PJ and the case coordinator.

So what is it you are questioning?

The veracity of the witnesses or the competence of the police?

I'm questioning neither. I questioned the veracity of your statement that the Totman's evidence was given to the PJ in May 2007. That statement can't be shown to be true, but you're strangely reluctant to admit it.

[Eleanor]

Who said lying?

You prove what you perceive.

[Vertigo Swirl]

A Sceptic speaks on here after the Crimewatch programme

"I don't think it should be either. But I don't believe the person exists for a minute!  Or if they do there were nowhere near the vicinity of the McCann apartment.  They had no earthly reason to be there at that time.  The coincidence of them just happening to wander past at that exact moment is so enormous that there aren't enough zeroes in mathematics to cope."

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2645.msg88600#msg88600

[Vertigo Swirl]

Another cite for Slarti, from this forum

"LMAO at this "bash amarals detective work" thread.
How can we be sure that SY are not telling porkies about debunking Tanners bundle man?

Seems a bit convenient that this man finally comes forward anonymously in what is the most high profile 'alleged child abduction' case.
Do people seriously still think bundle man exists?
Or are SY perhaps playing Tanner at her own game, knowing that her sighting was a deliberate attempt to divert attention from the real sighting which is provided by independent witnesses, and possibly implicates her friend Gerry".

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2645.msg88857#msg88857

[John]

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about.  However ... 

You posted
His wife said he told the police (the GNR in previous posts). http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9601.msg465370#msg465370

In the post to which you refer I mentioned GNR based on the following link
"In October 2007 the McCanns put out a sketch of the Tannerman but Mr Totman had already told the Guarda Nacional Republicana in May ... " http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5698933/Madeleine-McCann-police-spent-four-years-trying-ID-man-GP-said-him.html

Being aware that neither she nor the journalist in all probability had any idea about PSP - GNR - PJ, I qualified that with a caveat in a future post.
In fact Mrs Topman is quoted only as referring to "police".

Is that OK for you?

I am still trying to work out why Dr Totman thought that telling the GNR anything in any way assisted the enquiry.  The GNR didn't have any investigative authority in the McCann case, they only provided traffic and crowd control, a few search boats and a helicopter with the occasional tracker dog or two thrown in.   Telling the GNR in no way guaranteed that the information was passed up the line to the PJ detectives, moreover, the absence of any statement in the files evidences the fact that the PJ never received this information imo.

That all said however, how hard would it have been to have talked to guests who were registered at both crèches and ascertain if they were out with their toddlers at around 9.15pm and just happened to walk past block 5?

[jassi]

Another cite for Slarti, from this forum

"LMAO at this "bash amarals detective work" thread.
How can we be sure that SY are not telling porkies about debunking Tanners bundle man?

Seems a bit convenient that this man finally comes forward anonymously in what is the most high profile 'alleged child abduction' case.
Do people seriously still think bundle man exists?
Or are SY perhaps playing Tanner at her own game, knowing that her sighting was a deliberate attempt to divert attention from the real sighting which is provided by independent witnesses, and possibly implicates her friend Gerry".

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2645.msg88857#msg88857

You seem very busy searching the archives. Is there some purpose ?

[Brietta]

You seem very busy searching the archives. Is there some purpose ?

Have you been reading the thread, or have you just joined it?