In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Rather than saying "but I’m sure you’ve got an answer for that too" you said "but I’m sure there is an answer for that too", I would consider that opinion, without putting the other person in the spotlight.

I’m fairly certain there is no logical answer for it.  On the other hand I fully expect Faithlilly has answered that particular conundrum to her own satisfaction.  Whether she chooses to share it with us or not is quite another matter.  I believe it is valid to ask other posters their opinions on certain matters pertaining to the case but it seems to me that these days doing so is frowned on, as if it’s prying or no one’s business.  Well I disagree.  If you come on a forum like this and publicly pontificate on the case, be prepared to have your opinions questioned and to be asked more questions about your opinions.  IMO.

[Robittybob1]

I’m fairly certain there is no logical answer for it.  On the other hand I fully expect Faithlilly has answered that particular conundrum to her own satisfaction.  Whether she chooses to share it with us or not is quite another matter.  I believe it is valid to ask other posters their opinions on certain matters pertaining to the case but it seems to me that these days doing so is frowned on, as if it’s prying or no one’s business.  Well I disagree.  If you come on a forum like this and publicly pontificate on the case, be prepared to have your opinions questioned and to be asked more questions about your opinions.  IMO.

I allowed your post, but I questioned it considering a had already wiped a few earlier ones.  Ask for someone's opinion, no problem just don't make it sound like a personal snipe please.

Here is an example "On the other hand I fully expect Faithlilly has answered that particular conundrum to her own satisfaction.  Whether she chooses to share it with us or not is quite another matter.  I believe it is valid to ask other posters their opinions on certain matters pertaining to the case but it seems to me that these days doing so is frowned on, as if it’s prying or no one’s business",  acceptable.

Unacceptable:
"On the other hand I fully expect "the know it all" Faithlilly has answered that particular conundrum to her own "selfish" satisfaction.  Whether she chooses to share it with us or not is quite another matter "but quite expected considering".  I believe it is valid to ask other posters their opinions on certain matters pertaining to the case but it seems to me that these days doing so is frowned on, as if it’s prying or no one’s business."

[Vertigo Swirl]

I allowed your post, but I questioned it considering a had already wiped a few earlier ones.  Ask for someone's opinion, no problem just don't make it sound like a personal snipe please.

Here is an example "On the other hand I fully expect Faithlilly has answered that particular conundrum to her own satisfaction.  Whether she chooses to share it with us or not is quite another matter.  I believe it is valid to ask other posters their opinions on certain matters pertaining to the case but it seems to me that these days doing so is frowned on, as if it’s prying or no one’s business",  acceptable.

Unacceptable:
"On the other hand I fully expect "the know it all" Faithlilly has answered that particular conundrum to her own "selfish" satisfaction.  Whether she chooses to share it with us or not is quite another matter "but quite expected considering".  I believe it is valid to ask other posters their opinions on certain matters pertaining to the case but it seems to me that these days doing so is frowned on, as if it’s prying or no one’s business."

Can you please make it clear that you have inserted words into my original paragraph  that I did not write.  Furthermore I do not believe I have had any posts removed today?

[Robittybob1]

Can you please make it clear that you have inserted words into my original paragraph  that I did not write.  Furthermore I do not believe I have had any posts removed today?

OK the inserted bits are mine and are in quotations but just to demonstrate what I consider "personal attack". 
I never said who's posts they were that were deleted. But if I'm being fair I have to apply the same criteria to all parties.

[Alice Purjorick]

Recap:
The game is in Portugal.
Arguido's 3 handed team designated Team A.[A1 A2 A3 no names allowed].
The Judiciary Team B. [B1 etc no names allowed]
Witnesses Team C [Full names allowed].
Objective Team A to avoid being charged with an offence jointly or severally.
Objective Team B to determine what if any crime has been committed and to charge someone with same.
Objective Team C to comply with laws applying to witnesses and avoid being charged.
The Basic Rules are below.

Questioning an Arguido (Including but Not Limited To)
•   It is mandatory to question a person whenever there is a founded suspicion that he/she has committed a crime.
•   Since the purpose of questioning is precisely to determine whether or not a crime has been committed and who is the perpetrator the questioning may be ordered with a lesser degree of suspicion.
•   This measure may be executed by a judge the PP or the criminal police.
•   The defence lawyer must be informed of the time and place of the questioning but the lawyers presence is not mandatory unless the arguido is in custodial detention.
•   The Portuguese procedural system assigns the arguido the right to remain silent during the procedure from the moment he/she is formally designated Arguido/Arguida.
•   The fact that the arguido decides to remain silent cannot be detrimental to himself.
•   The CCP does not threaten with a sanction of any kind the arguido that having decided to talk instead of remaining silent makes false declarations.
•   Any declaration that the arguido makes during the preliminary phases of the procedure has very limited evidentiary value.
•   As a consequence of the right to remain silent the arguido has no duty of any kind to cooperate with investigative authorities for the purpose of determining the truth.
•   As a consequence of the privilege against self incrimination the arguido cannot  make a declaration under oath.(CCP Article14(3)).
Questioning Witnesses. (Including but Not Limited To)
•   A witness is obliged to cooperate with the inquiry.
•   A witness may be punished for lying or obstruction.
General

Testimony obtained under duress is not admissible in Portuguese courts.

The game.
Identify how each team will approach the game to achieve their objective using the rules to their advantage.
Three responses required per poster, Team A, Team B, Team C

'Night all

[Angelo222]

If she was telling the truth she had nothing to fear - do you honestly think with the world watching there would have been a miscarriage of justice.

All she had to do was be honest - where as if she had something to hide by all means don't answer them imo

IMO being to lenient and bending over backwards to accommodate them was there biggest mistake.

I tend to agree but the PJ were in a no win situation, damned if they did and damned if they didn't.  The case was like a poisoned chalice for the detectives on the ground imo.  Having a foreign police force shadow your every move must have been intolerable.

[faithlilly]

10.13 is around quarter past 10, not 10pm.  Odd that given most others put the alarm earlier that he wuld deliberately destroy a perfect alibi by going “off message” but I’m sure you’ve got an answer for that too.

I’d put 10.13 ‘around 10’ but hey, we’re all different.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’d put 10.13 ‘around 10’ but hey, we’re all different.

a) of course you would, it suits your theory b) yes we are.

[G-Unit]

Exactly.

I think the clue that she had already been asked these questions may lie in the fact she is recorded as saying that she could add nothing further to what she already had, so she had been asked them before.

Snip
44.   When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer--did.html
44- Também assinalado, pelo cão de detecção, sangue humano por detrás do sofá , disse que não podia explicar nada mais do que já referira
Ler mais em: https://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/as-48-perguntas-que-ficaram-sem-resposta
 
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45.  When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer--did.html
45- Assinalado o odor de cadáver proveniente da viatura que alugaram um mês depois do desaparecimento disse que não pode explicar nada mais do que já referiu?
Ler mais em: https://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/as-48-perguntas-que-ficaram-sem-resposta

The 48 questions that went unanswered September 7, 2007.
Kate McCann entered the Portimão Judicial Police in the morning and the interrogation was extended until the evening. It was heard as a witness, but the tension in the air was evident. For the first time, people gathered at the door of the PJ's facilities and murmured words of distrust toward the couple.

That day the CM had reported that the dogs had detected a corpse odor on Maddie's mother's clothing. A proof that the authorities intended to use as trump, in an inquiry that only the following day changed course, after the PJ did not see clarified their doubts.

Kate began by answering all the questions, but when being constituted defendant stopped talking. He returned to silence in the company of the lawyer, and accepted all the insinuations provocatively.

Less than 48 hours later, Kate and Gerry travel to England with the twins, leaving behind the investigation the disappearance of their daughter, who had been four years old. They later assured that they would return if that was necessary - which they never did, although formally they had not been summoned to return - and are no longer accused of involvement in concealing the child's corpse.

Today the CM reveals the 48 questions that Kate did not want to answer in the interrogation and which reflect the investigators' doubts.
More than a year after Maddie disappears, many of these questions remain unanswered.

APPROPS FOR THE MCCANN COUPLE
Kate and Gerry McCann's visit to Portimão's PJ facilities marked a turning point in the relationship between the couple and the couple: the curious people who spent the day in the street sucked Maddie's mother and father, criticizing mainly the "absence of visible suffering" from Kate. Also the foreign press was present in great number.

PROCESS PASSES TO BE PUBLIC ALREADY AFTER TOMORROW
From tomorrow, all the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine will be made available to defendants, witnesses, lawyers and also journalists, because it is a case of manifest public interest.
The case, which was filed on July 21, will also be accessible to the general public, a situation that will allow a genuine scrutiny of the work carried out by the Judiciary Police.
This decision, which turned out to be a case involving a child, was only announced after Portuguese lawyers for the McCann family, Carlos Pinto de Abreu and Rogério Alves, asked the Court of Portimão to give priority to access to the cars .
Already last Wednesday the court had asked all interested parties who had previously requested the consultation of the records to leave a CD in the registry, since the process will be provided in digital format.
The closure of the investigation to the disappearance of the girl, which occurred on May 3, 2007, in the Algarve, precipitated the lifting of the secret of justice, which had been extended precisely until August.
Ler mais em: https://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/as-48-perguntas-que-ficaram-sem-resposta

I think you may have misread my post. I wasn't agreeing with you that questions were asked twice, I was pointing out that Kate McCann wasn't questioned for 11 hours on 6th September.

As the question could have lead to the witness incriminating herself, the question you refer to couldn't have been asked legally without arguida status being in place. If it had been asked previously, then someone acted outwith the laws of Portugal. Kate McCann was interviewed officially on 4th May and 6th September only. There was allegedly, an unofficial interview on 8th August the details of which are not officially recorded. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

I tend to agree but the PJ were in a no win situation, damned if they did and damned if they didn't.  The case was like a poisoned chalice for the detectives on the ground imo.  Having a foreign police force shadow your every move must have been intolerable.

Not to mention the media circus,  which those poor parents had to 'suffer'. Then the illegal PI's  traipsing around...

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think you may have misread my post. I wasn't agreeing with you that questions were asked twice, I was pointing out that Kate McCann wasn't questioned for 11 hours on 6th September.

As the question could have lead to the witness incriminating herself, the question you refer to couldn't have been asked legally without arguida status being in place. If it had been asked previously, then someone acted outwith the laws of Portugal. Kate McCann was interviewed officially on 4th May and 6th September only. There was allegedly, an unofficial interview on 8th August the details of which are not officially recorded.

2 things grab me about the 'chats' interviews.

1. when were the initial investigating Portuguese  police told about an 'abduction' and not looking for a missing child?

2. In the beginning were the parents  allowed to sit in on briefings?

[Gertrude]

I find it suspicious that Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions, some regarding the behaviour of her daughter and how she coped with her....yet she had voluntarily discussed these issues in the press confirming her daughter was indeed 'difficult' and hard to cope with.

"Kate McCann has revealed that she struggled to control Madeleine McCann after the birth of her and Gerry's twins, it was revealed today.
Missing Madeleine would run around 'screaming...shouting for my attention', the mother-of-three said.

In an interview given to a Portuguese magazine before she was named as a suspect in the case of the four-year-old's disappearance, Kate also said the first six months of Madeleine's life were "very difficult" and that the girl had suffered from colic."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482238/Kate-McCann-My-struggle-control-difficult-Madeleine.html

   Why not just answer those particular questions at the time? She had after all,  already confirmed her daughter was difficult to deal with. If it had nothing to do with her disappearance, why not answer those questions?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I find it suspicious that Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions, some regarding the behaviour of her daughter and how she coped with her....yet she had voluntarily discussed these issues in the press confirming her daughter was indeed 'difficult' and hard to cope with.

"Kate McCann has revealed that she struggled to control Madeleine McCann after the birth of her and Gerry's twins, it was revealed today.
Missing Madeleine would run around 'screaming...shouting for my attention', the mother-of-three said.

In an interview given to a Portuguese magazine before she was named as a suspect in the case of the four-year-old's disappearance, Kate also said the first six months of Madeleine's life were "very difficult" and that the girl had suffered from colic."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482238/Kate-McCann-My-struggle-control-difficult-Madeleine.html

   Why not just answer those particular questions at the time? She had after all,  already confirmed her daughter was difficult to deal with. If it had nothing to do with her disappearance, why not answer those questions?

I think they knew they were going to be judged on leaving the children alone, I believe they had to potray a 'loving' family and all very happy..  not a normal family at all!  My sister almost killed me , really almost died,for wearing her expensive makeup lol.

[Robittybob1]

I think they knew they were going to be judged on leaving the children alone, I believe they had to potray a 'loving' family and all very happy..  not a normal family at all!  My sister almost killed me , really almost died,for wearing her expensive makeup lol.

No comment.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I find it suspicious that Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions, some regarding the behaviour of her daughter and how she coped with her....yet she had voluntarily discussed these issues in the press confirming her daughter was indeed 'difficult' and hard to cope with.

"Kate McCann has revealed that she struggled to control Madeleine McCann after the birth of her and Gerry's twins, it was revealed today.
Missing Madeleine would run around 'screaming...shouting for my attention', the mother-of-three said.

In an interview given to a Portuguese magazine before she was named as a suspect in the case of the four-year-old's disappearance, Kate also said the first six months of Madeleine's life were "very difficult" and that the girl had suffered from colic."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482238/Kate-McCann-My-struggle-control-difficult-Madeleine.html

   Why not just answer those particular questions at the time? She had after all,  already confirmed her daughter was difficult to deal with. If it had nothing to do with her disappearance, why not answer those questions?

Have you read all of this thread?  This particular issue has already been covered by me in my posts.  Whether you choose to accept it or not is of course another matter.