Author Topic: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?  (Read 21847 times)

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Offline Erngath

Exactly what was i implying E


I'm waiting for you to answer my question . k.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2018, 03:54:56 PM by Erngath »
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline kizzy


I'm waiting for you to answer my question . k.

Oh right - just seen it.

well it wasn't me who said it -  i just posted it.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

The general attitude by those who support the "No comment" response even when someone is totally innocent of any crime appears to be because of incrimination.  The question is though, if a suspect is totally innocent, how can they possibly incriminate themself?
Kate McCann, by answering the questions truthfully, could have handed the police a motive on a plate.  For example:
A: yes I did find Madeleine a handful at times.  She could be difficult and demanding and very active, always jumping off the sofa.
A: yes, we sometimes gave her Calpol to help her settle at night, if she was under the weather
A: yes, I sometimes struggled coping with 3 children under 4.

etc, etc, etc

So, here we have a woman by her own admission found her child difficult, who struggled to cope with 3 young children (one of whom was a bit of a handful) and who gave them drugs to settle them.  Say no more - there's your motive and means right there. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

A motive is not sufficient to bring a prosecution.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Kate McCann, by answering the questions truthfully, could have handed the police a motive on a plate.  For example:
A: yes I did find Madeleine a handful at times.  She could be difficult and demanding and very active, always jumping off the sofa.
A: yes, we sometimes gave her Calpol to help her settle at night, if she was under the weather
A: yes, I sometimes struggled coping with 3 children under 4.

etc, etc, etc

So, here we have a woman by her own admission found her child difficult, who struggled to cope with 3 young children (one of whom was a bit of a handful) and who gave them drugs to settle them.  Say no more - there's your motive and means right there.


OH fgs you must be a man....if that the best excuse for not answering the questions.... *&^^&

Ever heard of the terrible 2s 3s 4s ...most women with children that age have problems coping but they just do

Its natural -  part of being a good mother....not a reason to harm an investigation incase it incriminates you.


Offline Vertigo Swirl


OH fgs you must be a man....if that the best excuse for not answering the questions.... *&^^&

Ever heard of the terrible 2s 3s 4s ...most women with children that age have problems coping but they just do

Its natural -  part of being a good mother....not a reason to harm an investigation incase it incriminates you.
i think you have totally misunderstood my post, never mind.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

A motive is not sufficient to bring a prosecution.
It was in the Cipriano case from what I can recall. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

i think you have totally misunderstood my post, never mind.


I Don't see how -  iyo maddie was a problem child then  - so that's why she didn't answer the questions.

Are you only guessing or do u know the mccanns..I thought maddie was suppose to be well behaved.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2018, 05:21:19 PM by kizzy »

Offline slartibartfast

A motive is not sufficient to bring a prosecution.

Means, motive and opportunity are the basic requirements before a prosecution can even be considered.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline kizzy

Will anyone here bother to read this?  Probably not

https://www.aslettlaw.com/criminal-defense/people-unintentionally-incriminate/

I Think that's an advertisement -  to always have a lawyer with you. kmccann did

Offline Vertigo Swirl

I Think that's an advertisement -  to always have a lawyer with you. kmccann did
So you didn't read it? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

In certain circumstances police will always consider the "No comment" response to be suspicious.  As an example of this I refer to the Channel 5 crime documentary "Countdown to murder" The Soap Star Killer.  This documentary features a reconstruction of the events that led to the horrific murder of former EastEnders actress Gemma McCluskie in 2012 and the subsequent search for her body.

Gemma McCluskie's brother Tony lived with her and was the last person to see her alive.  Police were not satisfied with the answers he gave when initially questioned so he became an official suspect.

From the documentary timestamp 36.21

Narrator Caroline Catz:  McCluskie was interviewed under caution but the only reply he gave was "No comment"

Former DCI John Nicholson:  It was his right as it is everybody's right if they are arrrested for a criminal offence to make a no comment interview but given on the face of it his sister had been abducted, murdered, dismembered, the normal person I would suggest would want to do everything they can to try and identify who was responsible but Tony chose not to do that.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x230mdc

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Can we infer anything from the fact that Kate McCann refused to answer questions once made an arguido John?  Does it mean she is more likely than not to be guilty of something?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl


I Don't see how -  iyo maddie was a problem child then  - so that's why she didn't answer the questions.

Are you only guessing or do u know the mccanns..I thought maddie was suppose to be well behaved.
I was giving you an example of how a perfectly innocent response can be twisted into a motive.  I'm not saying that the answers I gave as examples would have been the answers Kate gave, I have no idea how she would have answered them. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

So you didn't read it?

Yes i did.- how else would i know it was an advertisement the lawyer was at the bottom to contact and a telephonist.