Author Topic: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?  (Read 21803 times)

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Offline faithlilly

The same reason I don't tend to buy any tabloid.  Personal choice.  That doesn't mean I despise people that do, or stereotype them all as racists and misogynists as you seem to.

Why don’t you buy tabloids?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Why don’t you buy tabloids?

These pointless questions will cease now.  Or else.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Why don’t you buy tabloids?
Because if I want to read a newspaper I will read one that deals in news that interests me, ie: politics, world news, business, rather than celebrity exposes and true life stories.  Have you got what you wanted yet?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Because if I want to read a newspaper I will read one that deals in news that interests me, ie: politics, world news, business, rather than celebrity exposes and true life stories.  Have you got what you wanted yet?

Please do not reply to these pointless questions, or I will have to wipe the lot.

Offline Brietta

Imo it can be considered "suspicious" if there is a mountain of evidence against a suspect which points to their guilt and they refuse to explain any of it .

As for the McCanns I thought at the time how ridiculous it was that they were arrested and made suspects.

In my opinion the right to silence is a protection for the innocent.  Everyone is innocent until there is evidence against them which can be proved in a court of law.

In my opinion it is not for a suspect to 'explain' anything allegedly 'pointing to their guilt' ... it is the job of the police to gather evidence to substantiate any 'mountain of evidence' they may think are pointers to guilt.

As we have seen from the questions asked of Kate at the arguida interrogation ... the police simply did not understand the forensics they thought pointed to Kate's guilt ... all they had to do to rectify that would have bee to check it out with their own forensic experts.
Which I believe is precisely one of the diligences carried out by the Rebelo investigation who sent a four strong team of experts, including Francisco Corte-Real, vice-president of Portugal's forensic crime service to Britain to confer with the British experts.
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/forensic-experts-discuss-dna-samples-in-madeleine-inquiry-1-2477684


Therefore I think your initial reaction to Kate and Gerry being made arguidos was about right, although it is worth bearing in mind that they were never arrested. 
As is obvious from the PJ Final Report all things having been considered there was no further questioning of Kate or Gerry nor charges laid against them.  The Rebelo investigation having checked out the forensics in what was initially thought to have been grounds to make them arguidos in the first place proving groundless when looked at closely by experts.
Fully vindicating Kate taking her lawyer's advice not to answer the questions put to her as arguida.  Forcing the police to investigate further, albeit with another coordinator in place, and finding no evidence against her.



"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Imo it can be considered "suspicious" if there is a mountain of evidence against a suspect which points to their guilt and they refuse to explain any of it .

As for the McCanns I thought at the time how ridiculous it was that they were arrested and made suspects.

They were never arrested. Nor was anyone else in direct connection with her disappearance that I can recall.

Offline Eleanor

They were never arrested. Nor was anyone else in direct connection with her disappearance that I can recall.

So there is still much ignorance around, even on this Forum.

Offline Robittybob1

They were never arrested. Nor was anyone else in direct connection with her disappearance that I can recall.
Was it equivalent to being arrested?  Was it optional to attend?  Could they leave when they wanted too?  If not they seem to be in custody of a sort.  They were not charged with any crime.  There were no bail conditions at the end of the day.
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Offline Eleanor

Was it equivalent to being arrested?  Was it optional to attend?  Could they leave when they wanted too?  If not they seem to be in custody of a sort.  They were not charged with any crime.  There were no bail conditions at the end of the day.

No, it wasn't equivalent to being arrested, although they might have been if they had refused.

Once made Arquidos they probably had no right to refuse, but they weren't asked to attend again after that.
And neither were they called upon for Rogatory Interviews in Britain.

Offline Carana

Was it equivalent to being arrested?  Was it optional to attend?  Could they leave when they wanted too?  If not they seem to be in custody of a sort.  They were not charged with any crime.  There were no bail conditions at the end of the day.

No, it's not the equivalent of being arrested. Please don't ask me to wade through 100s of pages of legal Portuguese gibberish for all the articles related to arrests.  8(8-))

Optional? I haven't checked into that. It would have been badly seen, at the very least.

Leaving - their lease expired at the end of August, and they got an extension in order to be there for the forthcoming interviews. The PJ were aware of that, but I can't remember offhand when they were informed. They could have found out anyway.

Bail conditions. They were not even arrested, let alone charged, so how could bail conditions apply?

Offline Robittybob1

No, it's not the equivalent of being arrested. Please don't ask me to wade through 100s of pages of legal Portuguese gibberish for all the articles related to arrests.  8(8-))

Optional? I haven't checked into that. It would have been badly seen, at the very least.

Leaving - their lease expired at the end of August, and they got an extension in order to be there for the forthcoming interviews. The PJ were aware of that, but I can't remember offhand when they were informed. They could have found out anyway.

Bail conditions. They were not even arrested, let alone charged, so how could bail conditions apply?
Someone makes a point of saying there were no bail conditions.  Gerry's lawyer makes the announcement https://youtu.be/VGsbPZtUue4?t=72
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Offline Carana

Someone makes a point of saying there were no bail conditions.  Gerry's lawyer makes the announcement https://youtu.be/VGsbPZtUue4?t=72

Yes. No bail conditions, no charges. And no, they weren't even arrested.

Offline Robittybob1

Yes. No bail conditions, no charges. And no, they weren't even arrested.
if they had to attend and they weren't free to leave what is the difference?
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arrest-vs-detention-how-tell-whether-you-ve-been-arrested-simply-detained.html
"Arrest vs. Detention: How to Tell Whether You’ve Been Arrested or Simply Detained
It’s possible for the police to arrest you—intentionally or not—before saying that you’re under arrest."  That was interesting. 
In the arguido situation it seems you are summoned to attend,  but once through the door you would not be free to leave till the PJ decide you may go hours and hours later.
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Offline Brietta

Yes. No bail conditions, no charges. And no, they weren't even arrested.

In my opinion that could only be that the police never had anything on them to begin with and it all hinged on the arguida interview. 
They thought Kate was a soft nut to crack having witnessed her in her most private moments vulnerable and despairing about the loss of her daughter.  They underestimated the mother love and rage which kicked in at the moment it became plain to her they had abandoned any thought of looking for Madeleine and a conviction would wrap the case up nicely for them.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

In my opinion that could only be that the police never had anything on them to begin with and it all hinged on the arguida interview. 
They thought Kate was a soft nut to crack having witnessed her in her most private moments vulnerable and despairing about the loss of her daughter.  They underestimated the mother love and rage which kicked in at the moment it became plain to her they had abandoned any thought of looking for Madeleine and a conviction would wrap the case up nicely for them.

I suspect it would have had a very different outcome had Kate not refused to answer the 48 questions.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.