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Offline Eleanor

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #180 on: June 16, 2018, 12:42:04 PM »
Quote from: John on June 16, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
I suspect it would have had a very different outcome had Kate not refused to answer the 48 questions.

I don't suppose we could have your actual opinion on this, could we?

This is Deflection at its finest.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #181 on: June 16, 2018, 12:43:57 PM »
Quote from: John on June 16, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
I suspect it would have had a very different outcome had Kate not refused to answer the 48 questions.

IMO any attempt at reputation management has had a significant effect on the longevity of the interest in the case.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #182 on: June 16, 2018, 12:45:29 PM »
Quote from: John on June 16, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
I suspect it would have had a very different outcome had Kate not refused to answer the 48 questions.

 doubt it made any diference whatsoever...would you like to tell us why you think it would
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #183 on: June 16, 2018, 12:45:38 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on June 16, 2018, 12:42:04 PM
I don't suppose we could have your actual opinion on this, could we?

This is Deflection at its finest.

How is a comment on failure to answer questions deflection from “no comment” being suspicious?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #184 on: June 16, 2018, 01:17:21 PM »
very tricky to answer.
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Offline John

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #185 on: June 17, 2018, 05:18:42 PM »
Quote from: Davel on June 16, 2018, 12:45:29 PM
doubt it made any diference whatsoever...would you like to tell us why you think it would

Someone posted previously that the PJ were intent upon taking advantage of the situation.  Kate was undoubtedly experiencing enormous pressure and in those circumstances all sorts of things tend to get revealed.  Her lawyer knew that the situation had the potential to end badly thus his advice to not answer any questions.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #186 on: June 17, 2018, 05:23:42 PM »
Quote from: John on June 17, 2018, 05:18:42 PM
Someone posted previously that the PJ were intent upon taking advantage of the situation.  Kate was undoubtedly experiencing enormous pressure and in those circumstances all sorts of things tend to get revealed.  Her lawyer knew that the situation had the potential to end badly thus his advice to not answer any questions.

So her lawyer must have thought she would incriminate herself?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #187 on: June 17, 2018, 06:04:21 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on June 17, 2018, 05:23:42 PM
So her lawyer must have thought she would incriminate herself?

A logical conclusion.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #188 on: June 17, 2018, 06:32:00 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on June 17, 2018, 05:23:42 PM
So her lawyer must have thought she would incriminate herself?
Innocent people can incriminate themselves, as I have already shown on this thread.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #189 on: June 17, 2018, 06:45:58 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on June 17, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
Innocent people can incriminate themselves, as I have already shown on this thread.

...but so can guilty people and those with a guilty conscience.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #190 on: June 17, 2018, 06:46:40 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on June 17, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
Innocent people can incriminate themselves, as I have already shown on this thread.

No you haven’t IMO. You have quoted a law firm whose main thrust was you should talk to a lawyer and an academic article mainly concerned with getting legal representation. No real world examples.

One interesting quote...

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The second way people unintentionally incriminate themselves–and I see this a lot in domestic violence cases–is deleting emails, text messages, and voicemails.



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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #191 on: June 17, 2018, 06:48:56 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on June 17, 2018, 05:23:42 PM
So her lawyer must have thought she would incriminate herself?

There would appear to be protection of both witnesses and arguidos against self-incrimination. Only evidence produced or examined during a trial may be used to secure a conviction or acquittal. See CCP Article 355
The issue may have been to prevent the authorities from finding "entry points" to unpick the stories thus uncovering more lines of questioning. A bit like a badger uncurling a hedgehog.
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Offline Carana

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #192 on: June 17, 2018, 07:03:45 PM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #193 on: June 17, 2018, 07:22:23 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on June 17, 2018, 06:46:40 PM
No you haven’t IMO. You have quoted a law firm whose main thrust was you should talk to a lawyer and an academic article mainly concerned with getting legal representation. No real world examples.

One interesting quote...

Are you really trying to suggest an innocent person cannot incriminate themselves... That is ridiculous imo
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?
« Reply #194 on: June 17, 2018, 07:27:40 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on June 17, 2018, 06:46:40 PM
No you haven’t IMO. You have quoted a law firm whose main thrust was you should talk to a lawyer and an academic article mainly concerned with getting legal representation. No real world examples.

One interesting quote...
LOL.  Are you trying to tell me that there has never been a miscarriage of justice resulting in an innocent person going to prison owing to something they said to the police?
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