Author Topic: In what circumstances can the "No comment" response be considered suspicious?  (Read 21794 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Truthful statements by an innocent person
An incriminating statement includes any statement that tends to increase the danger that the person making the statement will be accused, charged or prosecuted – even if the statement is true, and even if the person is innocent of any crime. Thus, even a person who is innocent of any crime who testifies truthfully can be incriminated by that testimony. The United States Supreme Court has stated that the Fifth Amendment privilege:

protects the innocent as well as the guilty.... one of the Fifth Amendment’s basic functions . . . is to protect innocent men . . . who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances..... truthful responses of an innocent witness, as well as those of a wrongdoer, may provide the government with incriminating evidence from the speaker’s own mouth.[27]
The U.S. Supreme Court has also stated:

Too many, even those who should be better advised, view this privilege as a shelter for wrongdoers. They too readily assume that those who invoke it are either guilty of crime or commit perjury in claiming the privilege.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Carana

LOL.  Are you trying to tell me that there has never been a miscarriage of justice resulting in an innocent person going to prison owing to something they said to the police?

There's a guy on Death Row for a detail he didn't think to mention during his initial interview.

Offline slartibartfast

Are you really trying to suggest an innocent person cannot incriminate themselves... That is ridiculous imo

Well give us a real world cite of someone, of similar intelligence to Kate, doing so.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Well give us a real world cite of someone, of similar intelligence to Kate, doing so.
LOL again.  Are you going to reject every example on the basis that Kate has a genius IQ, perchance...?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Well give us a real world cite of someone, of similar intelligence to Kate, doing so.
What a ridiculous idea... Give me a cite where someone of the intelligence  of Kate is being questioned by a police force in a foreign country who thinks she is trying to cover up the death of her daughter... You might then realise the situation Kate found herself in was quite unique

Offline Angelo222

Truthful statements by an innocent person
An incriminating statement includes any statement that tends to increase the danger that the person making the statement will be accused, charged or prosecuted – even if the statement is true, and even if the person is innocent of any crime. Thus, even a person who is innocent of any crime who testifies truthfully can be incriminated by that testimony. The United States Supreme Court has stated that the Fifth Amendment privilege:

protects the innocent as well as the guilty.... one of the Fifth Amendment’s basic functions . . . is to protect innocent men . . . who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances..... truthful responses of an innocent witness, as well as those of a wrongdoer, may provide the government with incriminating evidence from the speaker’s own mouth.[27]
The U.S. Supreme Court has also stated:

Too many, even those who should be better advised, view this privilege as a shelter for wrongdoers. They too readily assume that those who invoke it are either guilty of crime or commit perjury in claiming the privilege.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-incrimination#Truthful_statements_by_an_innocent_person

A good post VS but the case we are examining is that of a missing toddler.  How could the parents of that child possibly incriminate themselves if they had absolutely nothing to hide in the first place?  That is the million dollar question for me.
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Offline slartibartfast

What a ridiculous idea... Give me a cite where someone of the intelligence  of Kate is being questioned by a police force in a foreign country who thinks she is trying to cover up the death of her daughter... You might then realise the situation Kate found herself in was quite unique

I never mentioned foreign countries or police. It’s up to you and VS to find a cite.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

I never mentioned foreign countries or police. It’s up to you and VS to find a cite.

It's not up to me to find anything... It's not important that you don't understand  the simple fact that innocent people can incriminate themselves

Offline Vertigo Swirl

A good post VS but the case we are examining is that of a missing toddler.  How could the parents of that child possibly incriminate themselves if they had absolutely nothing to hide in the first place?  That is the million dollar question for me.
I have already given some examples earlier in this thread.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

I never mentioned foreign countries or police. It’s up to you and VS to find a cite.
Please tell us how you will decide whether on not the individual is of similar intelligence to Kate?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Please tell us how you will decide whether on not the individual is of similar intelligence to Kate?
We'll perform an IQ test and a polygraph on the same day.
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