Question about Nevill's watch

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Apparently, the fakes didn't have the cabouchon on the wider.

They do, Caroline. They glue them on, which is another giveaway.

The font too is always perfect aligned on a genuine watch, even cheap makes have perfect fronting.


I’m bowing out of this topic now as it isn’t relevant whether it’s fake or not: we all know he either did steal two genuine ones, or he bought fakes in Asia. And I’m sure SF wasn’t stupid enough to sell hers for £150 when at the time it was worth about £5k: why didn’t she take it to a jewellers and sell it for a couple of grand? None of it makes sense.

Anyway, I’m out of this topic now 

[Nicholas]

OK, I'm going to post the things we have just spoken about and I hope thats the end of it!

Here is granny speakmans secret box which her husband made for her and she gave to Jeremy as a child. There are many negatives never before seen... Which I will not put out there and have nothing whatsoever to do with the case!

Here's Jeremy's ponytail and here's the Cartier.  That is all your seeing and from here on in you can say what you like.
I have never (knowingly) lied to you and if I've made a mistake I'm hoping that I will have notice and corrected it  as I did with Caroline's recent posts about regarding the watches.

Does anyone know the exhibit number of the ‘Chinese trick box’ ?

The exhibit number may have been on the paperwork Aunt Agatha received along with the rifle & wetsuit

[Nicholas]

OK, I'm going to post the things we have just spoken about and I hope thats the end of it!

Here is granny speakmans secret box which her husband made for her and she gave to Jeremy as a child. There are many negatives never before seen... Which I will not put out there and have nothing whatsoever to do with the case!

Here's Jeremy's ponytail and here's the Cartier.  That is all your seeing and from here on in you can say what you like.
I have never (knowingly) lied to you and if I've made a mistake I'm hoping that I will have notice and corrected it  as I did with Caroline's recent posts about regarding the watches.

Has CC ever seen a photo of the ‘Chinese trick box’ ?

[Myster]

Has CC ever seen a photo of the ‘Chinese trick box’ ?

If CC tunes in here, god forbid, then he has now.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Does anyone know the exhibit number of the ‘Chinese trick box’ ?

The exhibit number may have been on the paperwork Aunt Agatha received along with the rifle & wetsuit

Has Aunt Agatha shown any concrete proof these items came from JB?

[Nicholas]

Has Aunt Agatha shown any concrete proof these items came from JB?

Mike Tesko has apparently posted the details in the past

But Aunt Agathas address details were also posted in the process so it was removed - according to her anyway

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Mike Tesko has apparently posted the details in the past

But Aunt Agathas address details were also posted in the process so it was removed - according to her anyway

Why were AA’s address details posted?

She said the police brought the items round to her...

Besides, it’s easy to hide an address with mark-up.

Has Agatha posted any letters written to her from JB, Nicholas?

[Nicholas]

Why were AA’s address details posted?

No idea - maybe AA will explain?

[Nicholas]

She said the police brought the items round to her...

It sounds like police brought some of the items to her house and some of the other items were given to her by Bamber from prison

[Nicholas]

Has Agatha posted any letters written to her from JB, Nicholas?

Don’t know?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It sounds like police brought some of the items to her house and some of the other items were given to her by Bamber from prison

He wouldn’t be allowed to give anyone anything, Nicholas — so until she proves how she allegedly received these items I’m not convinced. You only need to look up prison rules and you’ll see that prisoners aren’t allowed to take anything with them from their cell when they’re escorted to the visitors area: they’re searched before leaving their cell and searched after their visit.

I really can’t see the police driving hundreds of miles to deliver his cut pony tail to Agatha...plus a gun! Oh, and the wetsuit 😌

It clearly states that all personal belongings are bagged up and logged, and when a prisoner is transported from prison to prison their belongings go with them to the new prison. The items are released once the prisoner is set free, or they’re given to next of kin upon their death in prison. If they’ve no next of kin they’ll be released to whoever the prisoner has asked them to go to.

It’s all weird, to me...

I’m also curious why the police seized that Chinese box?

[Nicholas]

I’m also curious why the police seized that Chinese box?

JM was alleged to have thrown a ‘Chinese trick box’ at a mirror whilst at SC’s London flat

Not read or seen any w/s of what either sister said.  Only CAL's interpretation of what occured...

'Brett called at the cafe to remind Jeremy that the antiques dealer was due, so they all returned to the flat.
While the dealer was looking through the items from the farm, the telephone rang.Jeremy answered, speaking ‘in a friendly manner’ to the caller.
‘Who is it?’ Julie asked, growing suspicious.
‘Virginia,’ he said.
Julie knew at once that he meant Virginia Greaves, and asked him to put the phone down.When he carried on talking, she cut the call herself.
They then began to argue and Jeremy admitted he was seeing Virginia.
When the telephone rang again and he answered it, Julie stormed through to Sheila’s bedroom.
‘I was so angry,’ she remembered. ‘I picked up a Chinese box of Jeremy’s and threw it against a mirror, which smashed.’
Still on the line, Virginia heard the splintering glass. ‘What’s that?’ she asked.
Jeremy replied, ‘Oh, Julie just smashing some plates up.’
There was another crash.
‘What’s that?’ asked Virginia again.
‘Julie’s just put her wrists through the window.’
Shocked, Virginia told him definitely, ‘I don’t want anything to do with that and I’ll speak to you some time.’

‘We put all the money on the floor and looked at it,’ Julie remembered. ‘I said that I had never seen that much money before. He put all the money in his little Chinese trick box.’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=jeremy+bamber+chinese+trick+box&source=bl&ots=jQH-J5AeC1&sig=ACfU3U0BryXpogrDnkw5Ikx_1Yk1kH8qaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ6q_iy6vpAhWTilwKHc-SDNQQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20chinese%20trick%20box&f=false

Aunt Agatha claimed the following

Here is granny speakmans secret box which her husband made for her and she gave to Jeremy as a child.

Presumably this is what Bamber told her

If the Chinese trick box belonged to Bamber what was it doing in SC’s bedroom in London?

Were there more than one Chinese trick box?

[Nicholas]

Scott Lomax wrote the following:

‘On 4 September 1985, Mugford was present when Bamber received a telephone call from one of his ex-lovers. This enraged his girlfriend who admitted, "I was annoyed with him about the call … I walked out of the room, went into the bedroom, as I was angry. I picked up a Chinese box of Jeremy's and threw it against a mirror, which smashed."

http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan042.htm

[Nicholas]

Scott Lomax wrote the following:

‘On 4 September 1985, Mugford was present when Bamber received a telephone call from one of his ex-lovers. This enraged his girlfriend who admitted, "I was annoyed with him about the call … I walked out of the room, went into the bedroom, as I was angry. I picked up a Chinese box of Jeremy's and threw it against a mirror, which smashed."

http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan042.htm

Still not convinced this was Virginia Greaves.

And if Bamber was in the habit of keeping his girlfriends ‘private’ as Aunt Agatha has claimed it’s possible this was Anji and Virginia could have lied to cover for them both?

What reason did Virginia have to phone Bamber around that time?

[Nicholas]

Has Agatha posted any letters written to her from JB, Nicholas?

Daisy claimed

I have dozens of letters from Jeremy bur would never dream of selling them. How low some people stoop. I know that Aunt Agatha also has boxfulls of them as well but they will always remain private.