Question about Nevill's watch

[G-Unit]

But he’s the subject of this thread?

Of course he, his life, character is going to be discussed — what do you expect people to discuss? 

I suspect that you have some weird fascination with him (which I suspected anyway) and so you presume other people would too! Fortunately, most of the human race are repelled by mass murderers who shoot dead children; who are evil, psychopathic and vile. But you carry on in your little world believing he’s innocent, kind, caring, nice...and if he were to ever get out (he won’t, though) you’d have two things in common: you’re both cruel to dogs, and you’re both totally deluded.

I thought Nevill's watch was the subject of this thread.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I thought Nevill's watch was the subject of this thread.

Well, it was back in 2018 until Aunt Agatha suddenly popped up a week ago & the conversation progressed to fake watches, Cartiers that Jeremy was rumoured to have stolen, Granny Speakman’s wooden box, and an exhibit of a cut ponytail which JB had possibly stuffed up his anus to present to Aunt Agatha on one of her visits to him. I can’t think of anywhere else he’d hidden it, considering inmates are searched before seeing their visitors...can you?

[G-Unit]

Well, it was back in 2018 until Aunt Agatha suddenly popped up a week ago & the conversation progressed to fake watches, Cartiers that Jeremy was rumoured to have stolen, Granny Speakman’s wooden box, and an exhibit of a cut ponytail which JB had possibly stuffed up his anus to present to Aunt Agatha on one of her visits to him. I can’t think of anywhere else he’d hidden it, considering inmates are searched before seeing their visitors...can you?

Sorry, but Aunt Agatha's claims don't interest me at all. I have wondered how and why the mat was on top of Nevill's watch in the kitchen though.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Sorry, but Aunt Agatha's claims don't interest me at all. I have wondered how and why the mat was on top of Nevill's watch in the kitchen though.

It’s hardly rocket science to work out Nevill’s watch flew off across the kitchen during the violent struggle & then the mat slid some time after that & simply covered it.

It’s simple.

[Nicholas]

Fair enough

But you did say he used to say the silencer was attached to the gun but then he changed his mind

How many years was it before he changed his mind about the silencer evidence, can you remember?

Please, do not spread misinformation Nicholas.

He was told, and supposedly proven at court, that the silencer was used.   He had no evidence, proof or paperwork at that time to suggest otherwise.


I'd have to look through my paperwork to find this out and that something I'm not prepared to do.
However, it was years later.... Mike Tesco would be a more valuable source than I regarding that.

What paperwork are you referring to?

[Nicholas]

Caroline, you are so right!!

I apologise. Sincerely.

I haven't looked at the watch for twenty years or so and here it is. I DO NOT have an omega of Jeremy's.

I was mistaken.

Did Bamber tell you this was real?

[Nicholas]

Aunt Agatha I asked you here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358336.html#msg358336

”What makes you believe in his innocence?”

you replied,

That's a really tough question to answer, coming from you”

Why was it a ‘tough question’ coming from me?

What did you mean?

You then stated,

”You've been in my situation - I remember you standing up for Simon, alone at times.
You were steadfast in your view.....and your feelings only confirmed what you thought.

I felt that way about Jeremy too”

Why didn’t you acknowledge the exposure of Simon Halls guilt and subsequent suicide?

And you appear to be doing the same now?

What’s that all about?

[Nicholas]

You then stated,

”You've been in my situation - I remember you standing up for Simon, alone at times.
You were steadfast in your view.....and your feelings only confirmed what you thought.

I felt that way about Jeremy too”

You used the past tense when referring to Bamber, why?

Why did you write/type

felt and not feel ?       I feel that way...

You stated you felt that way ?

It read to me at the time like you had doubts

Did you have doubts?

[Nicholas]

You then stated,

”You've been in my situation - I remember you standing up for Simon, alone at times.
You were steadfast in your view.....and your feelings only confirmed what you thought.

And in reality what would you know about my feelings Aunt Agatha?

It might be worthwhile for you go back and look at what you posted so you can see with you own eyes what you wrote exactly and the context in which you wrote it

Here’s the direct link again http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358336.html#msg358336

Prior to the above you wrote,

‘You know how it is Stephanie - we move on! I don't hear from him, I don't contact him and I would never betray him either.

As you know Simon Hall’s guilt had been exposed and he’d been dead for over two years

And just the other day you made reference to Simon Hall and apparently of how you perceive my position to be?

You stated,

”Are you telling me you would not have done the same for your husband when he claimed his innocence... Only to later to declare he was a murderer?”

&

“You, of all people, are in no position to judge me”

Simon Hall was a murderer Aunt Agatha.

&

He’s dead ergo we are no longer married and he’s no longer my husband

Of Bamber you stated, “I would never betray him”

I found it strange how back then you appeared unable to recognise how Simon Hall betrayed me?

Maybe it was because you were too busy thinking about yourself?

Or is there another reason?

When you stated,

“You know how it is Stephanie - we move on! I don't hear from him, I don't contact him”

No Aunt Agatha, I didn’t ’know how it is’ nor did I hear from him or contact him because he was dead!

[Myster]

I wonder if the two Cartiers were rifled from Granny Speakman's safe?

[Nicholas]

I wonder if the two Cartiers were rifled from Granny Speakman's safe?

Aunt Agatha doesn’t seem to care where they came from or who they may have belonged to ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I wonder if the two Cartiers were rifled from Granny Speakman's safe?

Had the “Cartier” that Agatha posted up looked genuine, I’d say that’s a big possibility — especially as Jeremy contested Granny Speakman’s will as she’d disinherited him after he killed her daughter...

But that cheap, tatty-looking watch would never have adorned the wrist of a woman who was elegant.

And had it been genuine, the grasping, thieving Jeremy wouldn’t have given it away...he’d give a fake away, though...

[Myster]

There's an element of truth in what Collins is now saying about where those diamonds came from, and after blowing his $5,000 (£2,500) on a crooked heroin dealer, Bamber was hawking them around Auckland jewellers for some ready cash.

[APRIL]

There's an element of truth in what Collins is now saying about where those diamonds came from, and after blowing his $5,000 (£2,500) on a crooked heroin dealer, Bamber was hawking them around Auckland jewellers for some ready cash.

Yes, Myster. Whilst I dismissed some of what BC said as effect value, I had an "Aha" moment when it came to the diamonds. My only rider is that having once, by accident, managed to remove a diamond from it setting, it occurs to me that it must have taken some time to get a bag full of stones worth selling, and I wonder, too, when their loss was discovered and what was done regarding it. I very much doubt that there were any tiara's in the haul, though.

[Myster]

Yes, Myster. Whilst I dismissed some of what BC said as effect value, I had an "Aha" moment when it came to the diamonds. My only rider is that having once, by accident, managed to remove a diamond from it setting, it occurs to me that it must have taken some time to get a bag full of stones worth selling, and I wonder, too, when their loss was discovered and what was done regarding it. I very much doubt that there were any tiara's in the haul, though.

Bamber's parents hushed up the Osea burglary.  Maybe this was the first occasion they let him off the hook.