Question about Nevill's watch

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Suspect the police gave her paperwork of some description and she’d have had to sign for the items

They most certainly wouldn’t have just dropped off these items without paperwork to back it up. It doesn’t work like that.

The police wouldn’t drive and deliver a convicted prisoner’s seized property to anyone. It would have been sent to the prison he was sent to in 1986, and when he was transferred to other prisons all his sealed belongings would have been taken too and held in the property office. The prisoner gets it back when they leave. If they die in prison it will be sent to the nearest police station of their next of kin, or the person the prisoner has stated they wish to have it and they have 28 days to come and collect it or it’s auctioned off.

They don’t do delivery services.

It has to be collected with the NOK’s ID and all sealed bags have to be signed for at the front desk in the police station, where it’s held at. They collect it from the property store once you’ve shown your ID (Passport/Driving Licence) including the letter/email from police saying it can be collected by yourself xxx xxxx  and giving them the document and reference number. They’re very tight on making sure it’s all done to the book.

So how Agatha got these items is strange...

[Nicholas]

As  you have blocked me, I'm unable to dm you,

Would you like to contact me with those details and we can discuss this in a private setting?

Thank you.

I haven’t blocked anyone as I’ve previously explained.

I‘m sure if you choose to disclose stuff on the board you’d have the support of members here.

[Nicholas]

The police wouldn’t drive and deliver a convicted prisoner’s seized property to anyone. It would have been sent to the prison he was sent to in 1986, and when he was transferred to other prisons all his sealed belongings would have been taken too and held in the property office. The prisoner gets it back when they leave. If they die in prison it will be sent to the nearest police station of their next of kin, or the person the prisoner has stated they wish to have it and they have 28 days to come and collect it or it’s auctioned off.

They don’t do delivery services.

It has to be collected with the NOK’s ID and all sealed bags have to be signed for at the front desk in the police station, where it’s held at. They collect it from the property store once you’ve shown your ID (Passport/Driving Licence) including the letter/email from police saying it can be collected by yourself xxx xxxx  and giving them the document and reference number. They’re very tight on making sure it’s all done to the book.

So how Agatha got these items is strange...

I agree with this

Aunt Agatha would have been given a receipt, the prison/police would have had one as would Bamber.

Otherwise he could make claim his property had been stolen and sue the police/prison. This didn’t happen.

[The General]

I agree with this

Aunt Agatha would have been given a receipt, the prison/police would have had one as would Bamber.

Otherwise he could make claim his property had been stolen and sue the police/prison. This didn’t happen.

I think you need to give it a rest and take it to PM.
We get it, you've got issues with Aggie. It's turning in to a vendetta.

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[Caroline]

The police wouldn’t drive and deliver a convicted prisoner’s seized property to anyone. It would have been sent to the prison he was sent to in 1986, and when he was transferred to other prisons all his sealed belongings would have been taken too and held in the property office. The prisoner gets it back when they leave. If they die in prison it will be sent to the nearest police station of their next of kin, or the person the prisoner has stated they wish to have it and they have 28 days to come and collect it or it’s auctioned off.

They don’t do delivery services.

It has to be collected with the NOK’s ID and all sealed bags have to be signed for at the front desk in the police station, where it’s held at. They collect it from the property store once you’ve shown your ID (Passport/Driving Licence) including the letter/email from police saying it can be collected by yourself xxx xxxx  and giving them the document and reference number. They’re very tight on making sure it’s all done to the book.

So how Agatha got these items is strange...

I have to step in here Spy because the police do bring evidence back - won't go into detail about how I know but 100% they do. However, you do have to sign for it.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I think you need to give it a rest and take it to PM.
We get it, you've got issues with Aggie. It's turning in to a vendetta.

I don’t have issues with Agatha — I feel sorry for her

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I have to step in here Spy because the police do bring evidence back - won't go into detail about how I know but 100% they do. However, you do have to sign for it.

I trust what you say, Caroline, but I still don’t ‘get’ how or why the police would have driven to Agatha’s and given such a strange selection of property over a decade or more after he was jailed for life for mass murder?

Whatever, it’s all very strange, and very weird...

[Nicholas]

Had the “Cartier” that Agatha posted up looked genuine, I’d say that’s a big possibility — especially as Jeremy contested Granny Speakman’s will as she’d disinherited him after he killed her daughter...

But that cheap, tatty-looking watch would never have adorned the wrist of a woman who was elegant.

And had it been genuine, the grasping, thieving Jeremy wouldn’t have given it away...he’d give a fake away, though...

It may have done ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It may have done ?

No rich elegant woman would wear a fake ostentatious watch like that, Nicholas

I don’t know ONE woman who would wear that, even if it was a brand new fake

[APRIL]

No rich elegant woman would wear a fake ostentatious watch like that, Nicholas

I don’t know ONE woman who would wear that, even if it was a brand new fake

That's a very sweeping statement, Spy.

[Holly Goodhead]

The police wouldn’t drive and deliver a convicted prisoner’s seized property to anyone. It would have been sent to the prison he was sent to in 1986, and when he was transferred to other prisons all his sealed belongings would have been taken too and held in the property office. The prisoner gets it back when they leave. If they die in prison it will be sent to the nearest police station of their next of kin, or the person the prisoner has stated they wish to have it and they have 28 days to come and collect it or it’s auctioned off.

They don’t do delivery services.

It has to be collected with the NOK’s ID and all sealed bags have to be signed for at the front desk in the police station, where it’s held at. They collect it from the property store once you’ve shown your ID (Passport/Driving Licence) including the letter/email from police saying it can be collected by yourself xxx xxxx  and giving them the document and reference number. They’re very tight on making sure it’s all done to the book.

So how Agatha got these items is strange...

The above might be the process today but what about decades ago when AA claims she took receipt of said items?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

That's a very sweeping statement, Spy.

No, I don’t agree

I come from an affluent family and know/mix with some hugely rich people

I don’t know ONE who would wear a tacky fake watch, certainly not an ostentatious one

A young teenager might (but it wouldn’t be fake tat), but any woman over 30 would not wear cheap looking crap. I myself wouldn’t, either.

[APRIL]

No, I don’t agree

I come from an affluent family and know/mix with some hugely rich people

I don’t know ONE who would wear a tacky fake watch, certainly not an ostentatious one

A young teenager might (but it wouldn’t be fake tat), but any woman over 30 would not wear cheap looking crap. I myself wouldn’t, either.

Without going into how vulgar and tacky is the boast of affluence, a close friend substituted the family pearls with an identical triple strand of -popular at the time- popper beads. The family solicitor 'recognized' them and commented on their "magnificence". The trick enjoyed is the subterfuge.

[Nicholas]

I can assure you his hair was not grey at the time and wasn't grey for many years later.

Bamber said it was Aunt Agatha

“I have very long hair Bon Jovi style. I’ll send you a Polaroid of it 6 months ago - it’s mostly worn in a pony tail as I work in a welding shop and I’d set it alight if I wasn’t careful. I’ve not receded or lost any hair which I’m very thankful about - I do have some grey but it’s all over and only a few and looks fine.