Question about Nevill's watch

[G-Unit]

I wouldn't know, bought mine on Ebay for less than a fiver - it keeps perfect time and people always ask where I bought it. 

I just look at my phone. I never got on with watches anyway.     

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It doesn't have to be gold Spy. I have a Gucci watch and it's not precious metal - it has a diamond set in the face. but the metal is stainless steel.

True,  and stainless steel doesn’t tarnish either :)

[Caroline]

True,  and stainless steel doesn’t tarnish either :)

Mine is made of stainless steel, obviously I have no idea what the Cartier is made of.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Unless Seiko watches have a hallmark they are not gold. Many of them are coated with titanium nitride.

Who’d have guessed that?😳🤣

Depends which model you buy, Gunit, but Seiko do some beautiful gold watches , with diamonds too...like this one:

https://www.grand-seiko.com/uk-en/collections/stgk006j

[Myster]

Mine is made of stainless steel, obviously I have no idea what the Cartier is made of.

Aunt Agatha's watch, if a genuine Cartier Vermeil, consists of a 925 sterling silver base, as engraved/stamped on the rear (i.e. 92.5% silver + other metals, such as copper and zinc) with a 20M electroplated gold coating (i.e. a 20 micron or 20/1000 of a millimetre thick layer). Unlike solid gold which resists discolouration, Vermeil coatings are of lesser quality, liable to tarnish and can wear through over time.

Gold vermeil is similar to gold-plated jewelry but the difference is that the layer of gold is thicker and the metal underneath is sterling silver. It will last longer than gold-plated jewelry, but can still tarnish if exposed to water, sweat, or perfume, or the gold may eventually scratch and rub off with wear.

Two similar Must de Cartier watches for sale on eBay...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-ladies-Must-de-Cartier-Argent-925-gold-Plated-Quartz-watch/174192121415?hash=item288ea8d647:g:5TEAAOSw8bteR8EM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ladies-Large-Gold-Plated-Solid-Silver-Must-de-Cartier-Quartz-Wrist-Watch-Ex-Con/202858538689?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D087e1fbeb9024775bf626ecf448cdb45%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D174192121415%26itm%3D202858538689%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

[Myster]

AA's Cartier Back and Front...

[The General]

AA's Cartier Back and Front...

It's genuine in my opinion.

[Myster]

It's genuine in my opinion.

Aunt Agatha thinks the same.  The eBay watches, being quartz, are most likely of later manufacture.

I tried to link to a site with more info but the censorship on this forum reaked havoc with my post.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

AA's Cartier Back and Front...

I’m convinced it’s a fake, not just because he’s the type to wear a fake to impress, but the inscription on the back of the watch is appalling. It’s worn away in parts, it isn’t crisp, and the lettering is different to genuine Cartier.

The O is shaped differently and is wonky; the S is different; the word PLAQUE isn’t perfectly straight and uniform; the M isn’t fine and crisp — it’s thicker; and it doesn’t have SWISS MADE engraved on the back. ALL genuine Cartier’s do: his just has the word SWISS — and the symbol next to it isn’t a genuine Cartier symbol.

Besides the dreadful tarnishing, which it shouldn’t have — especially as it’s been sitting in a box for 35 years, a genuine new Cartier bought (or according to him — stolen) wouldn’t need a new strap in just a couple of years.

Comparing  the back of his to the genuine vintage one you gave link to shows what a bad fake it is 😳


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[Myster]

I’m convinced it’s a fake, not just because he’s the type to wear a fake to impress, but the inscription on the back of the watch is appalling. It’s worn away in parts, it isn’t crisp, and the lettering is different to genuine Cartier.

The O is shaped differently and is wonky; the S is different; the word PLAQUE isn’t perfectly straight and uniform; the M isn’t fine and crisp — it’s thicker; and it doesn’t have SWISS MADE engraved on the back. ALL genuine Cartier’s do: his just has the word SWISS — and the symbol next to it isn’t a genuine Cartier symbol.

Besides the dreadful tarnishing, which it shouldn’t have — especially as it’s been sitting in a box for 35 years, a genuine new Cartier bought (or according to him — stolen) wouldn’t need a new strap in just a couple of years.

Comparing  the back of his to the genuine vintage one you gave link to shows what a bad fake it is 😳

It's genuine.  In case you didn't read what I wrote, gold-plated Cartiers like any other watches which have been used and worn do tarnish and discolour, otherwise there wouldn't be speciality cleaning services available for them. Bamber's watch is a case in point having been around the world and back with him and perhaps worn by a previous owner.

https://luxurywatchrepairs.com/pages/cartier?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoc3m_IuI6QIVxu7tCh2GIA64EAAYASAAEgKc3PD_BwE

And as l've said before, all Cartiers do not have the full SWISS MADE on the back!

This is a genuine blue Must de Cartier from a reputable online jeweller.  Now tell me where on the back or front it says SWISS MADE?!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It's genuine.  In case you didn't read what I wrote, gold-plated Cartiers like any other watches which have been used and worn do tarnish and discolour, otherwise there wouldn't be speciality cleaning services available for them. Bamber's watch is a case in point having been around the world and back with him and perhaps worn by a previous owner.

https://luxurywatchrepairs.com/pages/cartier?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoc3m_IuI6QIVxu7tCh2GIA64EAAYASAAEgKc3PD_BwE

And as l've said before, all Cartiers do not have the full SWISS MADE on the back!

This is a genuine blue Must de Cartier from a reputable online jeweller.  Now tell me where on the back or front it says SWISS MADE?!

Myster, according to Jeremy he stole them from a jewellery shop and that model came out in the early to mid 1980s — I need to check. Jeremy could have only worn it for a couple of years, and it doesn’t matter if you’re travelling on planes — that’s not going to turn a quality watch into a pile of crap.

According to Cartier themselves they always have SWISS MADE on the back, but what would they know?

Aside from that, you can SEE the lettering is appalling! You can see it isn’t even uniform, it looks terrible.

I’m not even that interested if it’s a fake or genuine, it makes no odds to me at all, but I certainly wouldn’t wear a piece of rubbish like that. Genuine or not — it looks terrible. Oh, and incidentally, when they talk about tarnishing, they don’t mean something that looks like it’s been laying on a river bed for a century.

[Nicholas]

I’m convinced it’s a fake, not just because he’s the type to wear a fake to impress, but the inscription on the back of the watch is appalling. It’s worn away in parts, it isn’t crisp, and the lettering is different to genuine Cartier.

The O is shaped differently and is wonky; the S is different; the word PLAQUE isn’t perfectly straight and uniform; the M isn’t fine and crisp — it’s thicker; and it doesn’t have SWISS MADE engraved on the back. ALL genuine Cartier’s do: his just has the word SWISS — and the symbol next to it isn’t a genuine Cartier symbol.

Besides the dreadful tarnishing, which it shouldn’t have — especially as it’s been sitting in a box for 35 years, a genuine new Cartier bought (or according to him — stolen) wouldn’t need a new strap in just a couple of years.

Comparing  the back of his to the genuine vintage one you gave link to shows what a bad fake it is 😳

Me too

[Myster]

It's totally genuine.  Another genuine gold-plated Must de Cartier with scratches, discolouration and misprinted letters. Look at misplaced T in ARGENT, wobbly drunken duck and no sign of a SWISS MADE...

[Caroline]

It's totally genuine.  Another genuine gold-plated Must de Cartier with scratches, discolouration and misprinted letters. Look at misplaced T in ARGENT, wobbly drunken duck and no sign of a SWISS MADE...

Apparently, the fakes didn't have the cabouchon on the wider.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It's totally genuine.  Another genuine gold-plated Must de Cartier with scratches, discolouration and misprinted letters. Look at misplaced T in ARGENT, wobbly drunken duck and no sign of a SWISS MADE...

How do you know that’s genuine?

It doesn’t look genuine to me, because no designer house would put that through QC with such misplaced font. They take pride in producing perfect watches and that isn’t perfect by a mile.

Don’t know where you got that or saw it, but places like eBay are flooded with fakes. It’s a massive problem and has been going on for decades.