Question about Nevill's watch

[Eleanor]

If Aunt Agatha ever comes back After how rude everyone has been to her then I shall be most surprised.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Mike Tesko has apparently posted the details in the past

But Aunt Agathas address details were also posted in the process so it was removed - according to her anyway

But isn’t Mike Tesco an ex-convict and another pathological liar?

I read somewhere that even JB got shot of him because he thought he was “nuts”

[ISpyWithMyEye]

JM was alleged to have thrown a ‘Chinese trick box’ at a mirror whilst at SC’s London flat

‘We put all the money on the floor and looked at it,’ Julie remembered. ‘I said that I had never seen that much money before. He put all the money in his little Chinese trick box.’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=jeremy+bamber+chinese+trick+box&source=bl&ots=jQH-J5AeC1&sig=ACfU3U0BryXpogrDnkw5Ikx_1Yk1kH8qaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ6q_iy6vpAhWTilwKHc-SDNQQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20chinese%20trick%20box&f=false

Aunt Agatha claimed the following
Presumably this is what Bamber told her

If the Chinese trick box belonged to Bamber what was it doing in SC’s bedroom in London?

Were there more than one Chinese trick box?

The police were obviously interested in that box, which is why they seized it.

Maybe they were looking for Sheila’s fingerprints?

Seems a strange thing for a grown man to take to Sheila’s flat...

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Daisy claimed

Who’d want to buy HIS letters?

Daisy, bless her sweet heart, still sounds slightly naive despite him being vile to her and spouting to her face: “I never liked you anyway!”

I can’t grasp how some people seem to think ANYTHING of that evil murderer’s is worth even pennies. He’s not a famous celebrity; he’s a mass murderer. And when they showed WHF most people under the age of 50 didn’t even know who he was or what actually happened...the people on Twitter didn’t have a clue.

[Nicholas]

The police were obviously interested in that box, which is why they seized it.

Maybe they were looking for Sheila’s fingerprints?

Seems a strange thing for a grown man to take to Sheila’s flat...

What did he used to keep in the box does anyone know?

And why take it to SC’s flat - presuming he did?

[Nicholas]

Those negatives Aunt Agatha referred to may be the negatives from the camera she said she brought him to take photos of her and Bamber

Don’t believe they were related to the case in anyway

She mentions them here

I agree Myster, now I've viewed the ones online I think it has been purchased, I had wondered that however I could not verify that and I know Jeremy couldn't either, he believed it was made. It's a very basic box, it's not a puzzle and opens quite easily.
The box has never been used, it retains the negatives inside and was put away like everything else he gave me.
I ve taken care of the items, as I would if anybody had asked me to care for something.

[Nicholas]

I’m also curious why the police seized that Chinese box?

According to Aunt Agatha

Jeremy was given the box...

There was no Internet or anything at the time so he could do research like people do today.
If I was going to deliberately lie (as you're suggesting) I have access to the internet and certainly would have done my research.  Therefore, I have accepted everything upon which it was received... Based only on the info Jeremy knew at the time.
I never spent time asking about the box, where it came from, was it handmade or a purchased gift.   It looks very similar too the ones online and apart from the inside where the wires are attached for its musicality, that looks a bit rough.
So if Jeremy thought or believed as a child it's was made, then so be it.

But was he and could he have stolen it ?

[Nicholas]

The hair is Jeremy's!
He had long hair at one time, halfway down his back.
Of course you're not going to see photos of this, he was in prison and we couldn't take cameras in without permission.

Bamber referred to a ‘Polaroid’ photograph of him with long hair and of sending it to someone

[Nicholas]

I’m also curious why the police seized that Chinese box?

Jeremy was given the box..

But was he and could he have stolen it ?

Aunt Agatha initially posted here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358280.html#msg358280


The police arrived with rifle, wetsuit, camera, all granny's paperwork and granny's handmade box”

[Nicholas]

Those negatives Aunt Agatha referred to may be the negatives from the camera she said she brought him to take photos of her and Bamber

Don’t believe they were related to the case in anyway

She mentions them here

Here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358271.html#msg358271

Aunt Agatha stated,


Here we have;

His hair,
His Seiko watch/computer ( which he was able to use in those days),
His camera, with original film still inside. Have never had it processed.

Unless there are ‘negatives’ and a ‘film’ ?

What’s on these negatives and could they have also have belonged to SC ?

[Nicholas]

Here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358271.html#msg358271

Aunt Agatha stated,


Here we have;

His hair,
His Seiko watch/computer ( which he was able to use in those days),
His camera, with original film still inside. Have never had it processed.

Unless there are ‘negatives’ and a ‘film’ ?

What’s on these negatives and could they have also have belonged to SC ?

When asked ‘why didn’t the police process the film in the camera’,

Aunt Agatha stated here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358309.html#msg358309

”No. We were stunned that they even agreed to give them in the first place. Once I had received them we never mentioned them in writing (I don't think). Maybe they overlooked it....I really don't know and I was not going to ask.

Did the police seize the ‘negatives’ from SC’s flat - the same place where the Chinese trick box was seized from ?

[Nicholas]

When asked ‘why didn’t the police process the film in the camera’,

Aunt Agatha stated here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358309.html#msg358309

”No. We were stunned that they even agreed to give them in the first place. Once I had received them we never mentioned them in writing (I don't think). Maybe they overlooked it....I really don't know and I was not going to ask.

Did the police seize the ‘negatives’ from SC’s flat - the same place where the Chinese trick box was seized from ?

And when asked ‘Have you never been curious to find out what's on the film?‘

Aunt Agatha replied here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358314.html#msg358314


Yes, many times. I even took it to the shop but changed my mind.  I just couldn't get them processed.

Maybe now I could - I'd forgotten I had it until I went searching for the Cartier.....which I still haven't found.


What if Aunt Agatha were to have the ‘negatives’ processed and they were found to be photos belonging to SC - would she tell anyone ?

[Eleanor]

How any of you have got the nerve to ask questions of Aunt Agatha is completely beyond me.

[Nicholas]

When Steve posted here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358359.html#msg358359


I don't know which side of the argument has been duped by propaganda, but Jeremy long ago learned to conceal and control his emotions after his craving for hugs as a young child went unanswered from June and Nevill alike.

Aunt Agatha replied,


....and I was just gullible! Possibly. Nothing can be ruled out.


That reads to me as though Aunt Agatha was beginning to think she’d been duped


When David stated,

Yes that is a major aspect that worries me. He does not know what he should know if he is a guilty man.

Aunt Agatha wrote,

Precisely!!!


Wonder what she’d think to finding the negatives in her possession belonged to SC and not Bamber?

[Nicholas]

And when asked ‘Have you never been curious to find out what's on the film?‘

Aunt Agatha replied here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3851.msg358314.html#msg358314


Yes, many times. I even took it to the shop but changed my mind.  I just couldn't get them processed.

Maybe now I could - I'd forgotten I had it until I went searching for the Cartier.....which I still haven't found.

If the ‘film’ came with the camera and neither were used it could of course just be blank - had Aunt Agatha ever considered this?


What if Aunt Agatha were to have the ‘negatives’ processed and they were found to be photos belonging to SC - would she tell anyone ?