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Offline Caroline

Re: Glyn Razzell and the murder of his wife Linda Razzell in 2002.
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2018, 02:28:27 PM »
Point taken, Caroline!

I do wonder how reliable the forensic evidence in this case actually is: neither Linda, nor her body were present when the blood was supposedly matched to her.

I also find it very strange that the blood was only noticed after the car had been examined thoroughly, and cleaned by its owner.

I also find it odd that no other evidence of Linda's presence was found in the car.


https://glynrazzell.org.uk/case-overview


https://insidetime.org/the-case-of-glyn-razzell/

You don't need the body of someone to test for DNA.

I guess they didn't find blood because they weren't initially looking for it. The blood spatter experts in the programme said they would have been easily missed. I don't think it's unusual for police to search something more than once.

We don't know that there was no other presence - remember the sweepings?

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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2018, 01:50:55 PM »
You don't need the body of someone to test for DNA.

I guess they didn't find blood because they weren't initially looking for it. The blood spatter experts in the programme said they would have been easily missed. I don't think it's unusual for police to search something more than once.

We don't know that there was no other presence - remember the sweepings?

Yes----the "hooverings"  as Louise Shorter referred to them.  I know she couldn't get access to them, but were they never analysed by anyone at the time?

I don't believe blood was never looked for : the car was examined thoroughly at the time, and, if Woffinden is to be believed, the police found "no evidence of blood or recent cleaning." If the police believed Linda had been harmed or killed, they would certainly have been looking for blood, among other things .

Why examine the car yet again, having found nothing incriminating previously, and why examine it after its owner had cleaned it?

Luminol destroys the sample being tested, so it cannot be tested again, nor can anyone challenge the expert's findings. How convenient!


Offline Caroline

Re: Glyn Razzell and the murder of his wife Linda Razzell in 2002.
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2018, 02:02:07 PM »
Yes----the "hooverings"  as Louise Shorter referred to them.  I know she couldn't get access to them, but were they never analysed by anyone at the time?

I don't believe blood was never looked for : the car was examined thoroughly at the time, and, if Woffinden is to be believed, the police found "no evidence of blood or recent cleaning." If the police believed Linda had been harmed or killed, they would certainly have been looking for blood, among other things .

Why examine the car yet again, having found nothing incriminating previously, and why examine it after its owner had cleaned it?

Luminol destroys the sample being tested, so it cannot be tested again, nor can anyone challenge the expert's findings. How convenient!

OK, when they used Luminol, they wouldn't have covered the whole of the boot in it. Once the blood was detected they would have used other methods to obtain samples for testing - otherwise they wouldn't have been able to back-up the claim that DNA matched Linda's. They have to show evidence just saying the blood matched Linda's woud hardly have stood against a defence cross examination without evidence.

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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2018, 05:25:11 PM »
OK, when they used Luminol, they wouldn't have covered the whole of the boot in it. Once the blood was detected they would have used other methods to obtain samples for testing - otherwise they wouldn't have been able to back-up the claim that DNA matched Linda's. They have to show evidence just saying the blood matched Linda's woud hardly have stood against a defence cross examination without evidence.

Do you know if the forensic evidence was cross examined by the defence?  I can't find much about the trial !!

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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2018, 10:13:43 AM »
Do you know if the forensic evidence was cross examined by the defence?  I can't find much about the trial !!

It would have been, that's the point of a defense. No, there isn't that much online and newspapers can often be misleading.

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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2018, 10:35:33 PM »
It would have been, that's the point of a defense. No, there isn't that much online and newspapers can often be misleading.


Well, ideally, that's the point of a defence-------------

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Re: Glyn Razzell and the murder of his wife Linda Razzell in 2002.
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2018, 01:01:24 PM »

Well, ideally, that's the point of a defence-------------

I don't hear anyone (including Razzell himself), complaining that it wasn't.