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Offline kizzy

« Last Edit: July 06, 2018, 10:31:34 PM by John »
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2018, 08:26:53 PM »
A  6-year-old child disappeared from her Grandmothers home on the Island of Bute in Scotland. The gran reported her missing at 6.45 am Alesha's body was later found in woodlands 20 minutes walk from the grans home.

Police are not saying if they believe she left of her own accord (sleep walked) or was removed by a stranger or someone she knew.   The mother who is separated from the father found out on Facebook.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/04/alesha-macphail-bute-residents-child-death
« Last Edit: July 04, 2018, 10:29:03 PM by John »
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2018, 08:35:57 PM »
Not sure if this allowed but - a tragic start to this story.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6654567/alesha-macphail-murder-isle-of-bute-police-warnings/

Yes! I have requested a thread to be opened to discuss this case.


Another interesting story  about medical 'killings'  I did say recently that nurses were not all angels and doctors not all gods/lifesavers.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/04/cheshire-baby-deaths-nurse-questioned-suspicion-murder-lucy-letby

 It will be interesting to see if she sues the police for suspecting her!!! and ruining her good name- which she had apparently.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2018, 12:58:12 AM »
Not sure if this allowed but - a tragic start to this story.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6654567/alesha-macphail-murder-isle-of-bute-police-warnings/

Scotland
Alesha MacPhail: teenager arrested after death of six-year-old on Bute
Police Scotland renews call for witnesses after teenager arrested on suspicion of murder

Police investigate on Bute. Alesha’s body was found on the site of a former hotel in Ardbeg Road on Monday. Photograph: Murdo Macleod for the Guardian
Kevin Rawlinson and Libby Brooks on the Isle of Bute

Wed 4 Jul 2018 20.12 BST

A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of Alesha MacPhail, the six-year-old who went missing on the Isle of Bute on Monday, police said.

The body of the child was found in woodland little more than two hours after she was reported missing at about 6.30am.

On Wednesday, Police Scotland renewed their appeal for witnesses as they announced news of the arrest.

“The response to our earlier public appeals has been significant,” said Det Supt Stuart Houston. “However, despite this evening’s major development I am still appealing for anyone who was in the Ardbeg Road area of Bute on Sunday night or in the early hours of Monday, and who may have information about Alesha’s death to contact us.”

He added: “Anyone who has CCTV at their home or business, or indeed any motorists with dashcam footage which might help with our investigation are also urged to get in touch.”

The arrested teenager has not been named.

Earlier on Wednesday, residents and visitors to the islands expressed their horror that a child may have been killed.

The house where Alesha disappeared and the nearby grounds of a disused hotel, where her body was discovered, were the focus of intense police activity throughout Wednesday. Local officers are being assisted in their investigations by personnel drafted in from across Argyll and Bute and West Dunbartonshire divisions, as well as by forensic specialists.

Alesha was described as a “happy, smiley” girl by Wendy Davie, her head teacher at Chapelside primary school, Airdrie, which she had attended since August 2016. In a statement on Tuesday, Davie said: “She loved being at school and enjoyed all aspects of literacy, in particular writing. She was such a perfectionist in her handwriting and was very proud of her work.” Relatives shared on social media that the little girl had also loved reading.

Police confirmed on Tuesday that they were treating the incident as murder after a postmortem examination.

Speaking at a press conference late on Tuesday evening Houston said: “Alesha’s family is utterly devastated by what has happened and the news that we have had to give them this evening. Alesha was a six-year-old girl who had started her summer holidays and came here to spend her holiday with her relatives.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/04/alesha-macphail-man-arrested-after-death-of-six-year-old-on-bute
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2018, 10:05:34 AM »
Scotland
Alesha MacPhail: teenager arrested after death of six-year-old on Bute
Police Scotland renews call for witnesses after teenager arrested on suspicion of murder

Police investigate on Bute. Alesha’s body was found on the site of a former hotel in Ardbeg Road on Monday. Photograph: Murdo Macleod for the Guardian
Kevin Rawlinson and Libby Brooks on the Isle of Bute

Wed 4 Jul 2018 20.12 BST

A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of Alesha MacPhail, the six-year-old who went missing on the Isle of Bute on Monday, police said.

The body of the child was found in woodland little more than two hours after she was reported missing at about 6.30am.

On Wednesday, Police Scotland renewed their appeal for witnesses as they announced news of the arrest.

“The response to our earlier public appeals has been significant,” said Det Supt Stuart Houston. “However, despite this evening’s major development I am still appealing for anyone who was in the Ardbeg Road area of Bute on Sunday night or in the early hours of Monday, and who may have information about Alesha’s death to contact us.”

He added: “Anyone who has CCTV at their home or business, or indeed any motorists with dashcam footage which might help with our investigation are also urged to get in touch.”

The arrested teenager has not been named.

Earlier on Wednesday, residents and visitors to the islands expressed their horror that a child may have been killed.

The house where Alesha disappeared and the nearby grounds of a disused hotel, where her body was discovered, were the focus of intense police activity throughout Wednesday. Local officers are being assisted in their investigations by personnel drafted in from across Argyll and Bute and West Dunbartonshire divisions, as well as by forensic specialists.

Alesha was described as a “happy, smiley” girl by Wendy Davie, her head teacher at Chapelside primary school, Airdrie, which she had attended since August 2016. In a statement on Tuesday, Davie said: “She loved being at school and enjoyed all aspects of literacy, in particular writing. She was such a perfectionist in her handwriting and was very proud of her work.” Relatives shared on social media that the little girl had also loved reading.

Police confirmed on Tuesday that they were treating the incident as murder after a postmortem examination.

Speaking at a press conference late on Tuesday evening Houston said: “Alesha’s family is utterly devastated by what has happened and the news that we have had to give them this evening. Alesha was a six-year-old girl who had started her summer holidays and came here to spend her holiday with her relatives.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/04/alesha-macphail-man-arrested-after-death-of-six-year-old-on-bute

It would appear that two cars have been removed from the house where Alesha was staying and there was increased police activity there yesterday.
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Offline jassi

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2018, 10:13:10 AM »
Early days I would have thought.
Arrest means nothing without charge and the teenager might just be the local nutter.
On the other hand, they might have their man.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -   11 years and still no solution.

Offline John

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 10:19:32 AM »
ISLE ARREST Isle of Bute murder latest – Teenage boy, 16, arrested on suspicion of murder after Alesha MacPhail’s body found
The six-year-old's body was discovered in woodlands in Rothesay on Monday morning, less than three hours after she was reported missing from her grandparents' home

By Katy Pagan
5th July 2018

A TEENAGE boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder after the death of schoolgirl Alesha MacPhail.

The six-year-old’s body was discovered in woodlands on the Isle of Bute on Monday morning, less than three hours after she was reported missing from her grandparents’ home.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2883459/alesha-macphail-murder-teenage-boy-arrested-isle-of-bute-rothesay/
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. John Lamberton exposes malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 10:43:27 AM »
Early days I would have thought.
Arrest means nothing without charge and the teenager might just be the local nutter.
On the other hand, they might have their man.

A tragedy no matter who’s involved.
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Brietta

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2018, 01:07:10 PM »
It would appear that two cars have been removed from the house where Alesha was staying and there was increased police activity there yesterday.

I believe the building may be split into separate flats with Alesha's grandparents occupying the top floor attic flat.
Therefore the cars which have been removed may belong to other occupants of the building.

The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2018, 05:23:53 PM »
The 16 year old boy has now been charged.

Offline kizzy

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2018, 05:30:06 PM »
I believe the building may be split into separate flats with Alesha's grandparents occupying the top floor attic flat.
Therefore the cars which have been removed may belong to other occupants of the building.


Where does it say that - its grandparents house they also have a holiday flat. .

the cars belonged to the dad and grandad.

the boy charged is known to the family
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Offline Brietta

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2018, 12:58:26 AM »

Where does it say that - its grandparents house they also have a holiday flat. .

the cars belonged to the dad and grandad.

the boy charged is known to the family

As I said ... Alesha's grandparents live in a building which has been converted into separate residential flats.  They occupy the top floor attic flat.
At the moment police Scotland have not said to whom the cars removed from the scene belong ... but they could belong to anyone of of the other residents living in one of the other flats in the building.

Snip
A police car transporter also removed a Dacia car from the rear of the house where Alesha was last seen alive.

It's the second vehicle to be removed by murder squad detectives as part of their investigation.

It is not known who the car belongs to, but is thought to be one of the other residents living in one of the other flats in the seafront house where the six-year-old was staying with her grandparents.
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Officials told locals to be vigilant about their family's safety and the security of their homes as a car was taken away from the island for forensic examination.
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Alesha was only a few days into a three-week summer break, staying with her paternal grandparents in Bute when she went missing from her bed.

The grandparents live in a two-bedroom attic flat overlooking the sea in Rothesay. They have not been seen since Alesha disappeared.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5921125/Police-search-home-boy-16-arrested-Alesha-MacPhail-murder.html
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline kizzy

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 06:59:13 AM »
As I said ... Alesha's grandparents live in a building which has been converted into separate residential flats.  They occupy the top floor attic flat.
At the moment police Scotland have not said to whom the cars removed from the scene belong ... but they could belong to anyone of of the other residents living in one of the other flats in the building.

Snip
A police car transporter also removed a Dacia car from the rear of the house where Alesha was last seen alive.

It's the second vehicle to be removed by murder squad detectives as part of their investigation.

It is not known who the car belongs to, but is thought to be one of the other residents living in one of the other flats in the seafront house where the six-year-old was staying with her grandparents.
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Officials told locals to be vigilant about their family's safety and the security of their homes as a car was taken away from the island for forensic examination.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Alesha was only a few days into a three-week summer break, staying with her paternal grandparents in Bute when she went missing from her bed.

The grandparents live in a two-bedroom attic flat overlooking the sea in Rothesay. They have not been seen since Alesha disappeared.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5921125/Police-search-home-boy-16-arrested-Alesha-MacPhail-murder.html

Tragic as it is - thankfully  Alesha was quickly found.


seems we have been reading different reports B

And by Wednesday, the focus of the police investigation had shifted to the house of the grandparents. The two cars are believed to have belonged to the child’s father Rab and grandfather Calum.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/03/murder-investigation-launched-death-alesha-macphail-isle-bute/



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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2018, 07:42:09 AM »
Tragic as it is - thankfully  Alesha was quickly found.


seems we have been reading different reports B

And by Wednesday, the focus of the police investigation had shifted to the house of the grandparents. The two cars are believed to have belonged to the child’s father Rab and grandfather Calum.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/03/murder-investigation-launched-death-alesha-macphail-isle-bute/
The link you have supplied does not contain the quote above and confirms Brietta’s statement that the grandparents’ lived in a building converted into flats.
It seems to me some people are rather disappointed that Alesha’s family have not been charged with her murder...

Offline kizzy

Re: Alesha McPhail disappeared- found Police claim she was murdered.
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2018, 08:17:50 AM »
The link you have supplied does not contain the quote above and confirms Brietta’s statement that the grandparents’ lived in a building converted into flats.
It seems to me some people are rather disappointed that Alesha’s family have not been charged with her murder...


No nothing sinister intended- just seems the article has been updated.

I Can't see anyone disappointed - could be just your mind VS


Isle of Bute murder: Male aged under 18 is arrested after girl, 6, found ...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk › News
23 hours ago - By Wednesday, the focus of the police investigation had shifted to the house of the grandparents. The two cars are believed to have belonged to the child's father Rab and grandfather Calum. ... "Anyone who has CCTV at their home or business, or indeed any motorists with dashcam footage which might ...
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