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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2018, 09:37:28 AM »
I expect we would have heard about poor anguished Kate and Gerry being denied access to evidence which might help in their search by the nasty heartless Portuguese authorities.
What a facetious way of putting it.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2018, 09:48:39 AM »
I expect we would have heard about poor anguished Kate and Gerry being denied access to evidence which might help in their search by the nasty heartless Portuguese authorities.


Every now and then your posts reveal a less than unbiased view of the parents of a missing child which you claim to have.
Quite revealing at times.
IMO .
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2018, 10:41:53 AM »
Wouldn't that depend on why there were repeated attempts to see what evidence the PJ and LP had? Forewarned is forearmed, after all.
IMO Well they wouldn't hand over the evidence they had on them, if there was any.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2018, 12:28:55 PM »
I'm not quite sure if I know what you are talking about.

During a trial it was discovered that information sent to the Policia Judiciaria from the shelving of Madeleine's case in 2008 until 2010 had admittedly been filed as irrelevant to the investigation with no investigative activity being taken regarding them.

Can you think of any reason at all why anyone interested in Madeleine would not be desperate to access files which had never seen the light of day since receipt?

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2018, 02:52:15 PM »

Every now and then your posts reveal a less than unbiased view of the parents of a missing child which you claim to have.
Quite revealing at times.
IMO .

I was answering another post which suggested that the evidence was sought 'to help the search'. That statement is biased in my opinion so I pointed out that there are other possible reasons. It's called playing devil's advocate.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2018, 03:52:35 PM »
I was answering another post which suggested that the evidence was sought 'to help the search'. That statement is biased in my opinion so I pointed out that there are other possible reasons. It's called playing devil's advocate.
That’s one name for it...
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Offline Sunny

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2018, 04:02:48 PM »
I'm not quite sure if I know what you are talking about.

During a trial it was discovered that information sent to the Policia Judiciaria from the shelving of Madeleine's case in 2008 until 2010 had admittedly been filed as irrelevant to the investigation with no investigative activity being taken regarding them.

Can you think of any reason at all why anyone interested in Madeleine would not be desperate to access files which had never seen the light of day since receipt?
Brietta the 2008 to 2010 information wasn't within the files that G-Unit was talking about as they didn't exist at that time.  You are talking about completely different information.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2018, 04:55:27 PM »
Brietta the 2008 to 2010 information wasn't within the files that G-Unit was talking about as they didn't exist at that time.  You are talking about completely different information.
From the archiving of Madeleine's case onward in my opinion the information which continued to be sent to Portugal was the continuation of 'the files' into her case.

The fact that the information in that file was not shared with anyone does not in my opinion make it any less valuable than the information contained in 'the files' as we know them.
The information was about Madeleine and the information was about her case.  You may not think it important that information was  withheld and not acted upon, but I do ... and for all we know so might Madeleine McCann had she been given the chance.
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Offline jassi

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2018, 04:59:20 PM »
Withheld from whom?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2018, 07:44:18 PM »
From the archiving of Madeleine's case onward in my opinion the information which continued to be sent to Portugal was the continuation of 'the files' into her case.

The fact that the information in that file was not shared with anyone does not in my opinion make it any less valuable than the information contained in 'the files' as we know them.
The information was about Madeleine and the information was about her case.  You may not think it important that information was  withheld and not acted upon, but I do ... and for all we know so might Madeleine McCann had she been given the chance.

In 2008 5.000 pieces of information were not released after the archiving. They are still held under judicial secrecy. The McCanns have never expressed any desire to see them as far as I know. Why make such a fuss about the information which came in after the archiving but show no interest in the information gathered before it?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2018, 07:52:35 PM »
In 2008 5.000 pieces of information were not released after the archiving. They are still held under judicial secrecy. The McCanns have never expressed any desire to see them as far as I know. Why make such a fuss about the information which came in after the archiving but show no interest in the information gathered before it?
Case proven I'd say.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2018, 07:57:40 PM »
In 2008 5.000 pieces of information were not released after the archiving. They are still held under judicial secrecy. The McCanns have never expressed any desire to see them as far as I know. Why make such a fuss about the information which came in after the archiving but show no interest in the information gathered before it?

you are basing your opinion on the fact that the mccanns made no attempt to access the 5000 pieces of information...but you admit you dont know if that is true

Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2018, 08:06:25 PM »
you are basing your opinion on the fact that the mccanns made no attempt to access the 5000 pieces of information...but you admit you dont know if that is true

I'm basing my opinion on the fact that a woman who criticises the Portuguese police for driving fast, smoking and not offering her a coffee is unlikely to keep quiet if the Public Ministry refused to give her information which she thought might help to find her missing daughter.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2018, 08:08:59 PM »
I'm basing my opinion on the fact that a woman who criticises the Portuguese police for driving fast, smoking and not offering her a coffee is unlikely to keep quiet if the Public Ministry refused to give her information which she thought might help to find her missing daughter.

more severe anti mccann sentiment from someone who claims to be basiclly neutral...your mask slips again...so you dont know you are just speculating

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2018, 08:18:22 PM »
I'm basing my opinion on the fact that a woman who criticises the Portuguese police for driving fast, smoking and not offering her a coffee is unlikely to keep quiet if the Public Ministry refused to give her information which she thought might help to find her missing daughter.

do you know if she asked for it...do you know if she was given acces to it...do you know what the files contained