Author Topic: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?  (Read 34462 times)

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #120 on: August 13, 2018, 04:30:32 PM »
I'm not arguing with anyone... It takes two to argue

You’re the exception that proves the rule...
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #121 on: August 13, 2018, 04:31:25 PM »
I'm not arguing with anyone... It takes two to argue

Then again there's them who could start an argument in an empty room.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #122 on: August 13, 2018, 04:35:22 PM »
You’re the exception that proves the rule...
Good job really because there's no more one here with the intellect to engage me

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #123 on: August 13, 2018, 05:14:06 PM »
It is carefully worded...

“One of the most concerning and upsetting pieces of information to emerge quite early was the record of sexual crimes against children in the Algarve. ...”

Not “I found a record in the files ...”
Immediately preceding this she writes about “wading through” documents and as above “the record” of sexual crimes, including a letter of complaint from a parent to the GNR.  Where do you suppose these documents were archived prior to Kate getting hold of them?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #124 on: August 13, 2018, 05:15:05 PM »
Kate McCann says;

The PJ had never mentioned any of them to us. In fact, I gathered from the files, some of them hadn’t even been recorded by the authorities at the time they were reported (evidently, they were not considered to be actual crimes). [madeleine]

Kate seems to believe these British parents without question. She accepts the truth of what they say and uses it to denigrate the Portuguese police.
Why would she have any reason to believe that various parents would all lie about something like this?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #125 on: August 13, 2018, 05:17:47 PM »
Immediately preceding this she writes about “wading through” documents and as above “the record” of sexual crimes, including a letter of complaint from a parent to the GNR.  Where do you suppose these documents were archived prior to Kate getting hold of them?

Thank you for returning the thread to topic.

I would imagine that given the context she could only have read it in the pages of the files which we have not seen.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #126 on: August 13, 2018, 06:47:29 PM »
Thank you for returning the thread to topic.

I would imagine that given the context she could only have read it in the pages of the files which we have not seen.

Is there any evidence that different people are given different levels of access to police files?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #127 on: August 13, 2018, 06:54:32 PM »
Is there any evidence that different people are given different levels of access to police files?
I have provided evidence that Kate received information from the files that was not released to the public, you have chosen to reject that evidence, your choice.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #128 on: August 13, 2018, 07:16:27 PM »
Immediately preceding this she writes about “wading through” documents and as above “the record” of sexual crimes, including a letter of complaint from a parent to the GNR.  Where do you suppose these documents were archived prior to Kate getting hold of them?

Who were these “crimes” reported to?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #129 on: August 13, 2018, 07:18:43 PM »
Who were these “crimes” reported to?
The Portuguese police in the first instance, according to Kate McCann’s book.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2018, 07:20:52 PM »
The Portuguese police in the first instance, according to Kate McCann’s book.
But if they don't keep records? 
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #131 on: August 13, 2018, 07:24:09 PM »
The Portuguese police in the first instance, according to Kate McCann’s book.

We know they are not in the released files and as they are probably not considered part of the case they would not be released. This leads us to the conclusion that the information came from other sources,  crimestoppers, the website, etc.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #132 on: August 13, 2018, 08:05:07 PM »
We know they are not in the released files and as they are probably not considered part of the case they would not be released. This leads us to the conclusion that the information came from other sources,  crimestoppers, the website, etc.
In her book Kate writes “I gathered from the files, that some of them (sex assaults) hadn’t even been recorded by the authorities...”. This would indicate that some of them had - where is this information to be gleaned from the released files?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #133 on: August 13, 2018, 08:20:15 PM »
In her book Kate writes “I gathered from the files, that some of them (sex assaults) hadn’t even been recorded by the authorities...”. This would indicate that some of them had - where is this information to be gleaned from the released files?

A bit of a contradiction, unrecorded information in the files...
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #134 on: August 13, 2018, 08:41:36 PM »
I have provided evidence that Kate received information from the files that was not released to the public, you have chosen to reject that evidence, your choice.

No you haven't. You have provided evidence that Kate had information which isn't in the PJ files. You are assuming that the information came from the files which remained under judicial secrecy. Judicial secrecy means information which only the Judiciary can access in my opinion.
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