Author Topic: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?  (Read 34456 times)

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #300 on: August 21, 2018, 09:26:53 PM »
Please explain why Kate shouldn’t be entitled to see all the information pertaining to the disappearance of her OWN child, in a case which the police saw fit to shelve?

Because she may still be suspected of being involved. In this country you can't ask for FOI's if police are investigating  a suspected crime.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #301 on: August 21, 2018, 09:27:30 PM »
I try to be a law-abiding person  8)-)))
If you wish to bang your head against a brick wall then feel free.


Never broken any law but I would question authority if necessary.
Not would I hesitate to seek as much information as I could from any source if my child was missing.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #302 on: August 21, 2018, 09:28:08 PM »
I'm really not interested in what she thinks she is entitled to.
I sorry to hear that Jassi.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #303 on: August 21, 2018, 09:28:36 PM »
Amazing.the difference in interpretation that.a different opinion can make.
I just see a mother looking for.any information that.could help find her missing child.

Kate McCann may be a mother, but she's also reputedly a reasonably bright woman On what basis did she even imagine that she would be allowed to drive a coach and horses through judicial secrecy, data protection and the anonymity promised by Crimewatch? There's the future to consider too. People would be less likely to come forward, police would be liable to hide sensitive information, no-one would ring Crimestoppers. It was an unworkable idea.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #304 on: August 21, 2018, 09:31:33 PM »
Kate McCann may be a mother, but she's also reputedly a reasonably bright woman On what basis did she even imagine that she would be allowed to drive a coach and horses through judicial secrecy, data protection and the anonymity promised by Crimewatch? There's the future to consider too. People would be less likely to come forward, police would be liable to hide sensitive information, no-one would ring Crimestoppers. It was an unworkable idea.
Did anyone say "all the information"?
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Offline Erngath

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #305 on: August 21, 2018, 09:31:58 PM »
Kate McCann may be a mother, but she's also reputedly a reasonably bright woman On what basis did she even imagine that she would be allowed to drive a coach and horses through judicial secrecy, data protection and the anonymity promised by Crimewatch? There's the future to consider too. People would be less likely to come forward, police would be liable to hide sensitive information, no-one would ring Crimestoppers. It was an unworkable idea.

Possibly she didn't consider all these points you have raised.
I wouldn't if  I wasn't trying to find my missing child.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #306 on: August 21, 2018, 09:37:39 PM »

Never broken any law but I would question authority if necessary.
Not would I hesitate to seek as much information as I could from any source if my child was missing.

I'm sure they already tried that through the medium of the Family Court with limited success

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2164743/Madeleine-McCann-parents-court-bid-for-information.html

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id130.htm
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #307 on: August 21, 2018, 09:39:08 PM »
Possibly she didn't consider all these points you have raised.
I wouldn't if  I wasn't trying to find my missing child.

Well we know what happened last time she tried.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #308 on: August 21, 2018, 09:41:52 PM »
I'm sure they already tried that through the medium of the Family Court with limited success

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2164743/Madeleine-McCann-parents-court-bid-for-information.html

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id130.htm

Exactly what I would do if my child was missing.
Look for any information I could find.
Do you think that is wrong?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #309 on: August 21, 2018, 09:42:49 PM »
Most of the parents' entitlement was stifled by Portuguese Law & Judicial Secrecy. It must have been awful to be at the mercy of a system so very different to ours in the UK. IMO.

Our system?  what do you mean? they asked LP for access and this was denied.  What kind of information were they seeking and what would they do with that information?
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Offline Erngath

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #310 on: August 21, 2018, 09:43:17 PM »
Well we know what happened last time she tried.

Sorry.
You need to explain your post.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #311 on: August 21, 2018, 09:43:25 PM »
Exactly what I would do if my child was missing.
Look for any information I could find.
Do you think that is wrong?

Its not a question of right or wrong, its what the law says she is entitled to see, not what she thinks she is entitled to.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2018, 09:47:35 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #312 on: August 21, 2018, 09:44:38 PM »
Sorry.
You need to explain your post.
She just got a token number of files only.
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Offline jassi

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #313 on: August 21, 2018, 09:45:51 PM »
She just got a token number of files only.

Information they already had, I believe.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?
« Reply #314 on: August 21, 2018, 09:47:45 PM »
Information they already had, I believe.
First time I've heard that.
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