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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #435 on: June 22, 2019, 10:35:33 PM »
Eddie was an Enhanced VRD, the only one there has ever been.  He was the Top of the heap.  Best nose in the business.  Never wrong.  A Superdog.  All others pale into insignificance.
I've found another documentary on the search for Julie Reilly and I'm sure the handler called the dog Eddie at one stage.  Later he clearly says "Laddie"  Eddie and Laddie could be confused on video depending on background noise.

Are you ears better than mine?  https://youtu.be/SKhKUaQk2UQ?t=1571 soon after that point.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #436 on: June 22, 2019, 10:37:22 PM »
It’s not for me to prove it, it’s for the scientists who proved that what he alerted to did not originate from a human.  Do you think those responsible for excavating the site missed all the human remains and only submitted the coconut shell for analysis?

There's no way of knowing what Eddie alerted to.

At either Haut De La Garenne or apartment G5a
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #437 on: June 22, 2019, 10:38:15 PM »
I've found another documentary on the search for Julie Reilly and I'm sure the handler called the dog Eddie at one stage.  Later he clearly says "Laddie"  Eddie and Laddie could be confused on video depending on background noise.

Are you ears better than mine?  https://youtu.be/SKhKUaQk2UQ?t=1571 soon after that point.
No, his name was Otto or something.  Long after Eddie went to the Great Dog Pound in the sky.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #438 on: June 22, 2019, 10:41:41 PM »
There's no way of knowing what Eddie alerted to.

At either Haut De La Garenne or apartment G5a
Yet you *know* he alerted to Madeleine’s body, cos you beleeeeeeve.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #439 on: June 22, 2019, 10:44:20 PM »
Yet you *know* he alerted to Madeleine’s body, cos you beleeeeeeve.

I never said Eddie alerted to the remnant scent of Maddies cadaver in the McCanns bedroom wardrobe.

But he did though.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #440 on: June 22, 2019, 10:51:24 PM »
I never said Eddie alerted to the remnant scent of Maddies cadaver in the McCanns bedroom wardrobe.

But he did though.
Who did?  Name not pronoun please.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #441 on: June 22, 2019, 10:52:46 PM »
I never said Eddie alerted to the remnant scent of Maddies cadaver in the McCanns bedroom wardrobe.

But he did though.
Thanks for supplying proof of your blind faith in the little doggie.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #442 on: June 22, 2019, 10:56:05 PM »
Thanks for supplying proof of your blind faith in the little doggie.

To be fair, I would suspect the McCanns even without the doggie woofs.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #443 on: June 22, 2019, 10:58:33 PM »
But were there uman remains underneath the dead bird... Or had the dead bird been in contact with a cadaver
Problem I see with Otto was that he actually got rewarded for finding a dead bird.  Grime would have trained that aspect out of his dogs -no reward for finding anything not human.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #444 on: June 22, 2019, 11:02:07 PM »
States of Jersey Police: Press Release : Operation Rectangle


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The Deputy Chief Officer, David Warcup, stated:

"It is unfortunate that we now believe that the information which was put into the public domain by the States of Jersey Police about certain ˜finds' at Haut de la Garenne was inaccurate, and we regret this.

With regard to the particular evidence which has been highlighted in the media, the States of Jersey Police are clear that these do not support suggestions that there have been murders at Haut de la Garenne.  In particular;

A Piece of Child's Skull

 An anthropologist made an initial identification as this item being a piece of child's skull.
 At 10:45 am the SIO made a decision to release information to the press about the find.
 At 2pm the same day a press conference disclosed this item as the finding of the potential remains of a child.
 This item was lying within earth that is now identified as being Victorian era.
 On the 31st March 2008 Dr Higham from the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit stated he believed the item was not bone. 
 The original anthropologist reviewed her initial identification and on 14th April 2008 had stated she no longer identified it as part of a skull.
 Dr Higham and Dr Jacobi (of the British Museum faunal specialist) concluded that the sample was not in fact bone, but was almost certainly wood.  They went further stating it was more like a part of a seed casing like a small piece of coconut.
 The conclusions are therefore that the sample is a) Not bone and b) Not human.
 The States of Jersey Police satisfied that having liaised with the anthropologist and Dr Higham and other experts, that this item is not human and was found in a Victorian context.
https://jersey.police.uk/news-appeals/2008/november/press-conference-notes-from-operation-rectangle-update/
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #445 on: June 22, 2019, 11:04:30 PM »
To be fair, I would suspect the McCanns even without the doggie woofs.
Of course you would.  You suspected them the minute you heard about the disappearance before you knew anything at all about the case.  It was your gut reaction to which you have adhered slavishly for 12 years, come what may.  Evidence is for wimps!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #446 on: June 22, 2019, 11:05:36 PM »
Problem I see with Otto was that he actually got rewarded for finding a dead bird.  Grime would have trained that aspect out of his dogs -no reward for finding anything not human.
That is merely your belief. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #447 on: June 22, 2019, 11:11:45 PM »
Of course you would.  You suspected them the minute you heard about the disappearance before you knew anything at all about the case.  It was your gut reaction to which you have adhered slavishly for 12 years, come what may.  Evidence is for wimps!

Indeed, I suspected them first, which is common Police practice I believe.

After 12 years, & two police forces currently investigating the case, I'm yet to see any proof that my suspicions are incorrect.

If I ever do, I'll apologise, but until then I stand steadfastly by the notion that it were the parents wot dunnit.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #448 on: June 22, 2019, 11:22:25 PM »
Indeed, I suspected them first, which is common Police practice I believe.

After 12 years, & two police forces currently investigating the case, I'm yet to see any proof that my suspicions are incorrect.

If I ever do, I'll apologise, but until then I stand steadfastly by the notion that it were the parents wot dunnit.
I predict that no matter what the police say or do, arrest and charge an abductor,  get him sent down, you’ll still believe the parents did it.  I can’t really see what would persuade you otherwise.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #449 on: June 22, 2019, 11:25:04 PM »
Indeed, I suspected them first, which is common Police practice I believe.

After 12 years, & two police forces currently investigating the case, I'm yet to see any proof that my suspicions are incorrect.

If I ever do, I'll apologise, but until then I stand steadfastly by the notion that it were the parents wot dunnit.
PS - G-Unit, proof that you are wrong about no one on this forum believing the McCanns dunnit.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".