The government doesn't want the public to have Covid-19 home test kits!

[John]

Yes, its true, our government has done everything it can to prevent the public getting their hands on Covid-19 home testing kits.

But why I hear you ask?

The simple answer is control. The government want to control who is tested and who isn't. Most importantly in all of this however is the fact that the UK government want to control the data since to allow private home testing would deny this to them. To this end, they have now set up testing stations in a few cities around the UK including converting a number of MOT centres in Northern Ireland into Covid-19 test sites. Blood samples are taken at these sites and sent off for analysis to government approved laboratories. This ensures the government keep control of the data and can release it when and if they decide.

What is really going on though?  The World Health Organization stated many weeks ago that the Coronavirus can only be tackled by testing, testing and more testing. So why is the UK so far behind in this process?

Can the UK government really test 67 million people or will testing be limited to the chosen few?




MOT testing centres in Northern Ireland converted to Covid-19 testing stations.

[Angelo222]

Yes, its true, our government has done everything it can to prevent the public getting their hands on Covid-19 home testing kits.

But why I hear you ask?

The simple answer is control. The government want to control who is tested and who isn't. Most importantly in all of this however is the fact that the UK government want to control the data since to allow private home testing would deny this to them. To this end, they have now set up testing stations in a few cities around the UK including converting a number of MOT centres in Northern Ireland into Covid-19 test sites. Blood samples are taken at these sites and sent off for analysis to government approved laboratories. This ensures the government keep control of the data and can release it when and if they decide.

What is really going on though?  The World Health Organization stated many weeks ago that the Coronavirus can only be tackled by testing, testing and more testing. So why is the UK so far behind in this process?

Can the UK government really test 67 million people or will testing be limited to the chosen few?




MOT testing centres in Northern Ireland converted to Covid-19 testing stations.

Health England keep pushing the same mantra that no rapid test Covid-19 kits have been approved for use in the UK despite the many thousands that are manufactured here but have been shipped off abroad.

China has perfected these kits given their many advantages in this pandemic but all we get from the Tories is dither and delay.  I agree though, they want to control the testing in approved centres so that they can manipulate the statistics later.

According to this article the government are lying through their teeth yet again?!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/02/government-has-bought-no-covid-19-home-testing-kits-despite/

[Mr Gray]

Health England keep pushing the same mantra that no rapid test Covid-19 kits have been approved for use in the UK despite the many thousands that are manufactured here but have been shipped off abroad.

China has perfected these kits given their many advantages in this pandemic but all we get from the Tories is dither and delay.  I agree though, they want to control the testing in approved centres so that they can manipulate the statistics later.

According to this article the government are lying through their teeth yet again?!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/02/government-has-bought-no-covid-19-home-testing-kits-despite/

china havent perfected the kits imo...thats the problem

[Carana]

From what I've read in general (not necessarily related to the UK), they need to be validated for specificity (the right virus) and sensitivity (low false results).



 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do home testing kits exist anywhere in the world?  Say they were being advertised on ebay or amazon, how would anyone know they were reliable?  It’s true that an unreliable test is more harmful than no test at all so I wouldn’t want these things to be a commerically available off the shelf product.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Bring in the dogs?


https://www.citylab.com/life/2020/04/coronavirus-no-symptoms-dogs-smell-detect-covid-19-infection/609403/

God given cure?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8274351/Kingdom-Church-selling-fake-coronavirus-cure-investigation.html

AND

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jim-bakker-coronavirus-covid-19-fake-cure-televangelist-sued-by-missouri-symptoms-selling-treatment/

hal  le  loo yah

[Mr Gray]

We need a reliable test and we need testing of the general population to see what the level of antibodies are.. I believe we have the reliable test now

[Miss Taken Identity]

We need a reliable test and we need testing of the general population to see what the level of antibodies are.. I believe we have the reliable test now

Time will tell...

[Brietta]

Time will tell...

Early testing amongst other control methods seems to have paid dividends for New Zealand.  Britain is well on track to achieving the highest death rate in Europe.

[Mr Gray]

Early testing amongst other control methods seems to have paid dividends for New Zealand.  Britain is well on track to achieving the highest death rate in Europe.

many factors involved...population density..

England   424

Germany  232
Italy      200
France    118
Spain 92
Sweeden   23

New Zealand   18

[Mr Gray]

Engalnd population density 424

Belgium PD 376...deaths 7000...population 11 million...far worse that England

[Carana]

Engalnd population density 424

Belgium PD 376...deaths 7000...population 11 million...far worse that England

Hmm. Not sure if Belgium is really the best comparison.

Deaths in Belgium have been recorded as Covid-related even if there was just a suspicion. And has an urban density of 98%.

What's the urban density of England? I haven't been able to find it.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-is-belgium-a-europe-hotspot-for-covid-19-deaths-11975017
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

[Mr Gray]

Hmm. Not sure if Belgium is really the best comparison.

Deaths in Belgium have been recorded as Covid-related even if there was just a suspicion. And has an urban density of 98%.

What's the urban density of England? I haven't been able to find it.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-is-belgium-a-europe-hotspot-for-covid-19-deaths-11975017
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

Its diificult to make any true comparison becasue there are many factors involved...but making comparisons and judging the govt is exactly what popele are doing. Does england have the highest death rate...who knows.

ive been watching Sweeden....population 11 million. Stockholm is an archipeligo of 14 islands so natural social distancing. it will be interesting if their next daily death rate is an upward or lower trend...nothing yet is clear.

Does the Uk have  ahigher level of BAME...London certainly seems to...thats another factor

[Vertigo Swirl]

They keep saying that the only valid comparisons between countries is to compare excess death figures, information which won’t be available for some months.

[Carana]

Yes, loads of factors.

Re Sweden, the deputy PM explains why they chose a different strategy:

Covid-19 'is a marathon, not a sprint'

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/04/28/sweden-deputy-prime-minister-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-lockdown-gorani-intv-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/


Their biggest city, by far, is Stockholm with 1.5m. Then a few others above 150k, and the rest are somewhat smaller.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/sweden-population/

According to one article / interview (to dig out), they were pretty nervous at one point as they wouldn't have had enough ICU beds, either. On the whole, however, people seem fairly well behaved in terms of respecting the guidelines.

They do have measures in place, but they are banking on eventually gaining herd immunity.

The only problem is that there doesn't appear to be any proof yet that the presence of antibodies would actually provide immunity. On the other hand, the stories of people testing positive after they've already had it could be just false positives for one reason or another.