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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Eleanor on March 09, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

Title: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 09, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

Where is everybody?  Are they all off somewhere else having a more interesting punch up?  I cannot be bothered to look.
Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum that even I don't understand sometimes?

Madeleine is still missing, or dead, depending on which stance anyone might take.  We still have no proof of the latter, although having seriously tried for hope I do have to say that things are not looking good.

I remain reluctant to assume that Brueckner is responsible, but then I ever was an Innocent Until Proven Guilty sort of person.

Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: jassi on March 09, 2021, 06:06:15 PM
Funnily enough, I was just about to pm you to ask that very thing, as they certainly didn't tell me ?8)@)-) 
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 09, 2021, 06:20:42 PM
Is there anything left to say?
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: barrier on March 09, 2021, 06:20:59 PM
SSSHHHHH, let sleeping dogs lie.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 09, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Funnily enough, I was just about to pm you to ask that very thing, as they certainly didn't tell me ?8)@)-)

I wish you had PMd me.  I don't want this particular Forum to fade into oblivion.

I think it might be Luke Mitchell, but I am not doing that one and no one says I have to.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 09, 2021, 06:51:04 PM
Is there anything left to say?

I hope that Madeleine might be still alive?
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 09, 2021, 06:54:28 PM
SSSHHHHH, let sleeping dogs lie.

Brueckner's Dog is definitely dead.  Buried on top of a load of disgusting pornography.  Where to go from there?
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 09, 2021, 08:46:51 PM

Oh Good.  So glad we are still at each other's throats.  I have rather missed that.

Love you all too.  xx
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Admin on March 10, 2021, 12:51:57 PM
Please note, missing woman Sarah Everard posts moved...

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11979.msg644589#msg644589
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Admin on March 10, 2021, 12:53:18 PM
Where is everybody?  Are they all off somewhere else having a more interesting punch up?  I cannot be bothered to look.
Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum that even I don't understand sometimes?

Madeleine is still missing, or dead, depending on which stance anyone might take.  We still have no proof of the latter, although having seriously tried for hope I do have to say that things are not looking good.

I remain reluctant to assume that Brueckner is responsible, but then I ever was an Innocent Until Proven Guilty sort of person.

Could be the shock suffered by some members in finding out that they agree with members they previously disagreed with.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 10, 2021, 06:58:39 PM
Could be the shock suffered by some members in finding out that they agree with members they previously disagreed with.

I think this might be a trifle over optimistic.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Anthro on March 10, 2021, 08:00:48 PM
Where is everybody?  Are they all off somewhere else having a more interesting punch up?  I cannot be bothered to look.
Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum that even I don't understand sometimes?

Madeleine is still missing, or dead, depending on which stance anyone might take.  We still have no proof of the latter, although having seriously tried for hope I do have to say that things are not looking good.

I remain reluctant to assume that Brueckner is responsible, but then I ever was an Innocent Until Proven Guilty sort of person.
The fact that Brückner has no record of murder makes me hope that the BKA perhaps have the right person, but not the correct conclusion. Also, Brückner’s so-called friends say that he would have passed/sold Madeleine on, not kill her. Until Mr Wolters reveals more, it becomes impossible to further comment. I do think a former friend may help advance the case, though. My opinion.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 10, 2021, 08:56:24 PM
Where is everybody?  Are they all off somewhere else having a more interesting punch up?  I cannot be bothered to look.
Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum that even I don't understand sometimes?

Madeleine is still missing, or dead, depending on which stance anyone might take.  We still have no proof of the latter, although having seriously tried for hope I do have to say that things are not looking good.

I remain reluctant to assume that Brueckner is responsible, but then I ever was an Innocent Until Proven Guilty sort of person.

"Where is everybody?"  somewhere you and other certain mods opinions don't hold the high cards due to your mod status :)

"Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum"

I can't speak for everyone but most I know on this thread  some are fed up with blatant censorship. This will cause me to be banned as I didn't us the correct thread provided AND had the audacity to call it out.

 8)><(


There are other forums which are evenly moderated and free speech, without libel, is allowed, and skeptics are not addressed at mentally ill or vile trolls.

A song to sum up the last mod?    8)--))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj6LIjpxY-I





Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 10, 2021, 09:04:17 PM
"Where is everybody?"  somewhere you and other certain mods opinions don't hold the high cards due to your mod status :)

"Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum"

I can't speak for everyone but most I know on this thread  some are fed up with blatant censorship. This will cause me to be banned as I didn't us the correct thread provided AND had the audacity to call it out.

 8)><(


There are other forums which are evenly moderated and free speech, without libel, is allowed, and skeptics are not addressed at mentally ill or vile trolls.

A song to sum up the last mod?    8)--))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj6LIjpxY-I

Thank You for your contribution.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Brietta on March 11, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
Thank You for your contribution.

Certainly much appreciated 👌
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Lace on March 12, 2021, 10:30:02 AM
"Where is everybody?"  somewhere you and other certain mods opinions don't hold the high cards due to your mod status :)

"Or is everyone fed up with over moderation on this Forum"

I can't speak for everyone but most I know on this thread  some are fed up with blatant censorship. This will cause me to be banned as I didn't us the correct thread provided AND had the audacity to call it out.

 8)><(


There are other forums which are evenly moderated and free speech, without libel, is allowed, and skeptics are not addressed at mentally ill or vile trolls.

A song to sum up the last mod?    8)--))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj6LIjpxY-I



Sorry to hear you are lonely,   cheer up and listen to a more cheerful song.

This song to get you moving -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReEgXh-wURs
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 19, 2021, 09:00:55 PM
 @)(++(*

I am not the lonely one who will lose their perceived power over members.

And I don't live for this forum-I have a life. This is just a passing interest. I would post more often, but can't be bothered with the forum politics.

But it should be a warning to those who depend on it the most- to be careful it doesn't get wiped due to silent keyboards... ?>)()<
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: barrier on March 19, 2021, 09:03:12 PM
@)(++(*

I am not the lonely one who will lose their perceived power over members.

And I don't live for this forum-I have a life. This is just a passing interest. I would post more often, but can't be bothered with the forum politics.

But it should be a warning to those who depend on it the most- to be careful it doesn't get wiped due to silent keyboards... ?>)()<

There's more to life than forums, tis true, especially now the nights are getting lighter.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Lace on March 21, 2021, 10:56:39 AM
@)(++(*

I am not the lonely one who will lose their perceived power over members.

And I don't live for this forum-I have a life. This is just a passing interest. I would post more often, but can't be bothered with the forum politics.

But it should be a warning to those who depend on it the most- to be careful it doesn't get wiped due to silent keyboards... ?>)()<

Good to hear you're not lonely.   Just that you have a need to post here now and again to leave spiteful comments,  how wonderful of you.   You would miss doing that I am sure if the forum would to close,  you would have to find something else to unload your bitterness on.   Take care.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Lace on March 21, 2021, 11:01:08 AM
There's more to life than forums, tis true, especially now the nights are getting lighter.

I agree with you.   However,   if you have an interest in the case and would like to have a conclusion as to what happened to Madeleine,  it is worth while popping in to debate and see what is new.  Doesn't have to take up much of your time does it.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: jassi on March 21, 2021, 11:06:39 AM
Good to hear you're not lonely.   Just that you have a need to post here now and again to leave spiteful comments,  how wonderful of you.   You would miss doing that I am sure if the forum would to close,  you would have to find something else to unload your bitterness on.   Take care.


Pot meet kettle   @)(++(*
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Lace on March 21, 2021, 11:07:49 AM

Pot meet kettle   @)(++(*


 @)(++(*
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Lace on March 21, 2021, 11:08:33 AM
I don't come onto this forum to leave spiteful comments but sometimes it is called for.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 21, 2021, 11:22:42 AM

Pot meet kettle   @)(++(*

Hardly.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 21, 2021, 11:44:04 AM

Pot meet kettle   @)(++(*
Pot meet kettle meet toaster.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: barrier on March 21, 2021, 12:51:58 PM
I agree with you.   However,   if you have an interest in the case and would like to have a conclusion as to what happened to Madeleine,  it is worth while popping in to debate and see what is new.  Doesn't have to take up much of your time does it.

Time is something  none of know how much we have left, use it wisely.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Lace on March 22, 2021, 02:23:14 PM
Time is something  none of know how much we have left, use it wisely.

Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 29, 2021, 12:28:47 PM
Time is something  none of know how much we have left, use it wisely.

Yes, don't go leaving your children alone  and go drinking it is against the law in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9413775/Woman-left-child-home-NINE-hours-drinking-binge-court-hears.html

Oh is this being spiteful  oh dear...  Now where were we?, ah yes,  UK police are treating MBMs disappearance as if it was done in the UK.. apart from charging the parents with neglect. 


Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 29, 2021, 01:04:57 PM
Yes, don't go leaving your children alone  and go drinking it is against the law in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9413775/Woman-left-child-home-NINE-hours-drinking-binge-court-hears.html

Oh is this being spiteful  oh dear...  Now where were we?, ah yes,  UK police are treating MBMs disappearance as if it was done in the UK.. apart from charging the parents with neglect.

She left the child alone for 9 hours.

Doesn't everyone do that once they go to sleep?


'They originally thought they were dead as they were out cold.

So there you go, she was sleeping.


"Bell had left the kitchen sink running"

She had the foresight to make sure child had access to drinking water, good for her.


"She left the door unlocked"

It would have been completely irresponsible to lock the child in, what if she needed to escape in the event of a fire?


'There are very brief periods when the defendant goes back to her flat but she sometimes just goes to the door for very short periods of time"

So she was making checks on the child.

This was well within the bounds of responsible parenting imo.

The proof of that is that the child was completely unharmed.

The McCann case is clearly a much worse case of neglect since Maddie's life was directly affected by her parents actions.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 29, 2021, 01:34:58 PM
Yes, don't go leaving your children alone  and go drinking it is against the law in the UK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9413775/Woman-left-child-home-NINE-hours-drinking-binge-court-hears.html

Oh is this being spiteful  oh dear...  Now where were we?, ah yes,  UK police are treating MBMs disappearance as if it was done in the UK.. apart from charging the parents with neglect.
If it's not being spiteful, then it's certainly being wilfully ignorant of the facts of the McCann case which are quite dissimilar from the one you have highlighted above.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Eleanor on March 29, 2021, 01:40:51 PM
She left the child alone for 9 hours.

Doesn't everyone do that once they go to sleep?


'They originally thought they were dead as they were out cold.

So there you go, she was sleeping.


"Bell had left the kitchen sink running"

She had the foresight to make sure child had access to drinking water, good for her.


"She left the door unlocked"

It would have been completely irresponsible to lock the child in, what if she needed to escape in the event of a fire?


'There are very brief periods when the defendant goes back to her flat but she sometimes just goes to the door for very short periods of time"

So she was making checks on the child.

This was well within the bounds of responsible parenting imo.

The proof of that is that the child was completely unharmed.

The McCann case is clearly a much worse case of neglect since Maddie's life was directly affected by her parents actions.

Thank you both for contributing to my Thread.

So let's hear it for Burglars, Paedophiles and Rapists.  If either of you dare.
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on April 04, 2021, 11:40:17 PM
Thank you both for contributing to my Thread.

So let's hear it for Burglars, Paedophiles and Rapists.  If either of you dare.

I very much Dare!  thanks or the offer.  )

There was no sign of Burglars

 No  Stanger danger paedophiles- entering ad leaving the apartment with child- apart from the ones the parents claimed 'stole ' their daughter- even though they were not there when she disappeared, allegedly.
I don't have any intel regarding the rape figures for PDL that year.

As if the crime were committed in this country?  well the whole t9 would have been charged with neglect and  some charge for being responsible for her disappearance!

Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Brietta on May 11, 2021, 12:37:37 PM
Kate McCann questioned investigation into 'German paedophiles’ in Maddie hunt 10 YEARS ago
KATE MCCANN, the mother of missing Madeleine McCann, questioned whether investigations into "German paedophiles" had been thorough enough during a book she wrote a decade ago.


In 2011, Kate McCann published ‘Madeleine: Our daughter’s disappearance and the continuing search for her’ on Maddie’s eighth birthday in the hope it may trigger someone to come forward with new information.

Inside it though, she questions whether investigations into German, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British paedophiles had been thorough enough.

She wrote: “Night after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and the horrific crimes they committed.”

Police had reportedly visited known sex offenders in the area at the height of the investigation and looked around their apartments in search for Maddie – reporting “no sign of the minor”.

But Kate MCann asked whether this was good enough to “eliminate these vile characters” from the investigations.

She also probed whether Portuguese police had done enough in regards to sexual crimes in the Algarve in the run-up to Maddie’s disappearance, claiming that British families had reported intruders in their children’s rooms.

Last week, during the new ITV documentary ‘Madeleine McCann: The Hunt for the Prime Suspect’ presenter Julie Etchingham investigated why it had taken more than 13 years to link the new prime suspect to the case, claiming that British assistance in the case was “unwelcome” at the start.

A former detective with Surrey Police, Graham Hill, who flew to Portugal in 2007 to help on the case, said: “It became very frustrating, I sent lots of verbal and written reports back to London about the difficulties we were experiencing.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1316258/kate-mccann-madeleine-disappearance-german-suspect-allotment-cellar-hanover-maddie-spt


Amaral is on record confirming that Brueckner was "investigated" by the judicial police in 2007.

Kate McCann was able to work out from the evidence that investigation of such degenerates who were conducting their own Algarve crime wave of entering properties and assaulting children in their beds indicated a tack which should have been treated with the gravity merited.

Why did it take a civilian to work out that when a child has disappeared paedophiles of all nationalities who appear to have made the Algarve their stamping ground were logical investigative routes to follow ~ but the Judicial police didn't?
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Brietta on May 14, 2021, 05:14:27 PM
Detectives will stay on Madeleine McCann case 'until there is nothing left'
14 May 2021

Detectives will stay on Madeleine McCann case 'until there is nothing left'
14 May 2021,

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick told LBC the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance will "continue until there is nothing left to do".

Speaking to LBC's Nick Ferrari on Friday during Call the Commissioner she said: "We are working closely with Portuguese authorities and the German authorities, and we will continue until there is nothing left to do."

Asked if there are funding issues with the investigation, she said: "There is not a funding issue. So far (we have) received support every time we have felt there was a line of inquiry to pursue."

The Metropolitan Police continue to treat Madeleine's disappearance as a missing persons inquiry.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/detectives-will-stay-on-madeleine-mccann-case-until-there-is-nothing-left/
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: jassi on May 14, 2021, 05:26:46 PM
 Sounds as if it'll be a job for life  then.

As long as money is provided, the investigation will continue.
Which brave politician will be willing to pull the plug ?
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on May 14, 2021, 07:05:55 PM
Sounds as if it'll be a job for life  then.

As long as money is provided, the investigation will continue.
Which brave politician will be willing to pull the plug ?
Why would it require courage to pull the plug in your view?
Title: Re: The McCann Forum.
Post by: Brietta on May 14, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Why would it require courage to pull the plug in your view?

The Germans have shown us how it should be done.  Which might encourage our politicians to show they've got the cojones to deal with minority sceptic vitriol in the future instead of kowtowing to it.