Luke Mitchell - All quiet?

[Joe Blogs]

Large parts of IB have been exposed as complete lies - there are at least 17 referenced in the link below. How many lies are acceptable for a complete falsehood?

If I read a book that contained that many deliberate lies, I would not trust the author. Lean also claimed on YT she had ALL the transcripts when most hadn't even been transcribed. The point is you promoted her as an unquestionable authority on the subject. It's ok to have an opinion on LM but to to still promote Lean as relevant is laughable. I'm standing by the 2005 court verdict, failed appeals, failed parole, his current risk to females, lack of credible representation or support from his family as defining his guilt.

And Jo Bloggs AKA S Lean liking posts that show her in a good light (rare) but unable to respond to others. Typical Lean - a con artist from start to finish, reduced to filling up this forum after being ousted from the LM campaign by his psycho new/old girlfriend.

https://lmtranscriptdiscussion.blogspot.com/2024/02/transcript-comparison-comparison.html

Hey! You've added  that last paragraph, Ken! It wasn't there earlier!
Oh heck, i'll give your post a like anyway, just to save you getting too jealous of Faith, Sir!

[Kenmair]

If someone lied to you at least 17 times, why would you believe them - especially in an unqualified source?
I could understand if it was an established or credible author - not someone that was duped by CM and her killer son after selling her candles. A few rent-a-quotes have mentioned the case but what are they really doing about it? Or I could give Mein Kampf a bye as at least Adolf & Co developed the autobahn.

Lean is a con-artist/crook who is easily identifiable through various fraud/credit checks and unemployable in the legal/Criminal Justice field for 20 years.

[faithlilly]

If someone lied to you at least 17 times, why would you believe them - especially in an unqualified source?
I could understand if it was an established or credible author - not someone that was duped by CM and her killer son after selling her candles. A few rent-a-quotes have mentioned the case but what are they really doing about it? Or I could give Mein Kampf a bye as at least Adolf & Co developed the autobahn.

Lean is a con-artist/crook who is easily identifiable through various fraud/credit checks and unemployable in the legal/Criminal Justice field for 20 years.

Dr Lean had access to much that has been revealed in the transcripts long before the information was in the public domain. That she may have been reticent to reveal some information that did not fit her narrative is undeniably true but if you check the transcripts against her book much of what she claimed is absolutely correct.

As to a few ?rent-a-quotes? John Scott KC is one of Scotland?s foremost barristers. Do you really think he would have come out in support of a miscarriage of justice if he didn?t truly believe that there had been one? That he would jeopardise his reputation? What would be in it for him? Likewise Allan Jamieson. Further what do you expect them to do? Go on protests? Sell t-shirts?

[Kenmair]

Dr Lean had access to much that has been revealed in the transcripts long before the information was in the public domain. That she may have been reticent to reveal some information that did not fit her narrative is undeniably true but if you check the transcripts against her book much of what she claimed is absolutely correct.

As to a few ?rent-a-quotes? John Scott KC is one of Scotland?s foremost barristers. Do you really think he would have come out in support of a miscarriage of justice if he didn?t truly believe that there had been one? That he would jeopardise his reputation? What would be in it for him? Likewise Allan Jamieson. Further what do you expect them to do? Go on protests? Sell t-shirts?

Why do you continue to back an established con-artist (SL)?  She had limited access to the defence papers - she manipulated those after discovering CM had lied. She wasn't reticent to reveal anything - I've met former LM campaigners who spoke of her intransigence to accept anything or anyone who didn't believe her while dishonestly demanding money for her "work" while regularly appearing intoxicated at campaign meetings and only focused on "fundraising" on her behalf.

You've fallen for Lean's version who fell for CM's lies and spun a web to try and get money, now she's been sacked from the campaign and started up a local community garden with the begging bowl out soon no doubt.

[faithlilly]

Why do you continue to back an established con-artist (SL)?  She had limited access to the defence papers - she manipulated those after discovering CM had lied. She wasn't reticent to reveal anything - I've met former LM campaigners who spoke of her intransigence to accept anything or anyone who didn't believe her while dishonestly demanding money for her "work" while regularly appearing intoxicated at campaign meetings and only focused on "fundraising" on her behalf.

You've fallen for Lean's version who fell for CM's lies and spun a web to try and get money, now she's been sacked from the campaign and started up a local community garden with the begging bowl out soon no doubt.

Goodness it really is like talking to a child sometimes. ?Ive met some little girls who?ve said nasty things about Sandra because she didn't think they were as important as they thought that they were?. Real kindergarten stuff.

Of course we don?t know what skullduggery you get up to because, fortunately for you, you have the luxury of remaining anonymous. TBH I really don?t care what Dr Lean does outside the information she has made public. If she has committed some kind of crime report her to the police. Fraud is a criminal offence. Stop bleating about it here and take some action. I wait with baited breath.

[Kenmair]

Stop bleating about it here and take some action. I wait with baited breath.

Stop telling me and others what to do. If I want to highlight Lean's dishonesty this is as good a place as any to do it. I never bought her book so can't go to the police saying I've been defrauded because it turns out it was load of lies the average person could have spotted a mile off. Buyer beware, of fake criminologists bearing false truths.

[faithlilly]

Stop telling me and others what to do. If I want to highlight Lean's dishonesty this is as good a place as any to do it. I never bought her book so can't go to the police saying I've been defrauded because it turns out it was load of lies the average person could have spotted a mile off. Buyer beware, of fake criminologists bearing false truths.

It?s not whether you?ve been defrauded by if Dr Lean has committed fraud. You seem to think that she has and no doubt libel and slander so why not report her to the police? Or are you all mouth and no trousers? Does your bravery only extend as far as your anonymity does?

[Kenmair]

It?s not whether you?ve been defrauded by if Dr Lean has committed fraud. You seem to think that she has and no doubt libel and slander so why not report her to the police? Or are you all mouth and no trousers? Does your bravery only extend as far as your anonymity does?

Your post seems a bit disjointed and as I've already said, stop telling me what to do to. You overestimate how much it bothers me replying to a week old comment within a few hours suggests you're overly invested. Why not phone Scams UK saying you believed a book written by a fake criminologist/part-time van driver and ask for your ?19.99 back (plus P&P).

You seem on the brink. What stage of grief/denial are you at after however many years of promoting the Dr Lean Lie. I'll pop back in a week or so, so need for bated breath (baited would involve bait/lure).

[Joe Blogs]

Your post seems a bit disjointed and as I've already said, stop telling me what to do to. You overestimate how much it bothers me replying to a week old comment within a few hours suggests you're overly invested. Why not phone Scams UK saying you believed a book written by a fake criminologist/part-time van driver and ask for your ?19.99 back (plus P&P).

You seem on the brink. What stage of grief/denial are you at after however many years of promoting the Dr Lean Lie. I'll pop back in a week or so, so need for bated breath (baited would involve bait/lure).

Now Mr Kenneth, sir! All you seem to do is repeat the same two points over and over again.
That is, the family not supporting Luke and Dr Leans book!
Firstly, no one knows what LM family think about his guilt/innocence, but they certainly haven't spoken out about Innocents Betrayed, have they?
And as I have pointed out before, why would Dr Lean intentionally tell any lies in her book while simultaneously campaigning for an inquiry into the case which, as she says would bring 'everything' into the open, statements, transcripts the lot?

[faithlilly]

Your post seems a bit disjointed and as I've already said, stop telling me what to do to. You overestimate how much it bothers me replying to a week old comment within a few hours suggests you're overly invested. Why not phone Scams UK saying you believed a book written by a fake criminologist/part-time van driver and ask for your ?19.99 back (plus P&P).

You seem on the brink. What stage of grief/denial are you at after however many years of promoting the Dr Lean Lie. I'll pop back in a week or so, so need for bated breath (baited would involve bait/lure).

Why would I ask for my money back?

As to popping back?.no need to bother. You add nothing to the discussion so could I suggest that you spend your time more productively?I hear prison visiting is good for the soul.

[Mr Apples]

Does anyone know if there is any intention of more trial transcripts being uploaded to the blog??

[Joe Blogs]

Does anyone know if there is any intention of more trial transcripts being uploaded to the blog??

What do you mean 'to the blog' Mr Apples? Are you referring to the forum here?

[Mr Apples]

What do you mean 'to the blog' Mr Apples? Are you referring to the forum here?

Someone or some people has/have been kindly uploading the official trial transcripts from the original trial on a blog (the original trial took place between November 2004 - January 2005). I think the blog started some time in 2023 and the trial transcripts have gradually been getting uploaded to this blog since then for public consumption. Uncharacteristically, there hasn't been an upload in over 4 months, so I'm on here to ask if anyone knows if there is any news regarding the trial transcripts and the blog and if we can expect any more uploads soon. (Btw, I'm still really grateful for the transcripts which have been uploaded to the blog thus far, as I'm sure everyone else is.)

Here is the blog to which I refer:

https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/?m=1

[Joe Blogs]

Someone or some people has/have been kindly uploading the official trial transcripts from the original trial on a blog (the original trial took place between November 2004 - January 2005). I think the blog started some time in 2023 and the trial transcripts have gradually been getting uploaded to this blog since then for public consumption. Uncharacteristically, there hasn't been an upload in over 4 months, so I'm on here to ask if anyone knows if there is any news regarding the trial transcripts and the blog and if we can expect any more uploads soon. (Btw, I'm still really grateful for the transcripts which have been uploaded to the blog thus far, as I'm sure everyone else is.)

Here is the blog to which I refer:

https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/?m=1

OK, understood, Mr Apples!
And do we know if there are any more transcripts available to upload?

[Mr Apples]

And do we know if there are any more transcripts available to upload?

In terms of transcripts of witness testimonies in court, there are still many more I know of that haven't been uploaded to the blog yet (for example, off the top of my head, these haven't been uploaded yet: Judith Jones; Marion O'Sullivan & her partner Derek Hamilton; John [Name removed]; Gordon & David [Name removed]; James Falconer; 3 of Luke's school teachers; David Tulloch & the other boy, who met with LM in NB Abbey College; Derek Morris of LBP technical support unit; and a few other LBP officers and other friends/school friends of LM and Jodi). However, I don't know if there are legal reasons or confidentiality reasons preventing these other transcripts from being made public (I highly doubt it) or if, for some reason, these testimonies weren't able to be transcribed for technical reasons (i.e., electronic or recording equipment being faulty during the court testimonies of these other witnesses - and thus making transcribing them impossible).

The other obstacles, of course, are time & finance. Perhaps the bloggers are simply too busy to upload the remaining witness testimony transcripts at this moment in time or just don't have the money available right now to obtain and buy them (I think they are quite expensive to obtain and buy). I am optimistic that the remaining ones will be available to read on the blog at some point in the future.