News and current affairs => A look at the news stories currently making the headlines. => Topic started by: patb on March 13, 2021, 12:26:30 PM
Title: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: patb on March 13, 2021, 12:26:30 PM
The enforcement of anti COVID regs and the planned demonstration on Clapham Common confirms my point re the MET being in a very compromised position. Clearly, they are open to the allegation that they are trying to clamp down on the story by preventing the demonstration. It may be true and maybe not but the swiftness at which they have dealt with a possible demo is in contrast to the lack of swiftness in dealing with the two indecent assault allegations.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 12:08:12 PM
I thought the scenes at the vigil last night were quite unpleasant.
Hundreds of women gathered together.........breaking the law.
....& yet Cressida Dick, who as far as I can see must have stayed at home behaving lawfully, is facing calls to resign.
This was an illegal gathering, if they wanted to show their respects to Sarah, mass criminality wasn't the way to go about it imo.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 14, 2021, 12:29:08 PM
I thought the scenes at the vigil last night were quite unpleasant.
Hundreds of women gathered together.........breaking the law.
....& yet Cressida Dick, who as far as I can see must have stayed at home behaving lawfully, is facing calls to resign.
This was an illegal gathering, if they wanted to show their respects to Sarah, mass criminality wasn't the way to go about it imo.
And yet the photo being flashed around the world are of two male police officers throwing a 5 ft 2 ins woman to the ground, knee in the back while applying handcuffs for breaking covid rules?
I've not seen that level of force used against anyone else for breaking covid rules.
There were other vigils around the country that were not escalated by the police who kept a lower profile.
The actions of the police in fact escalated the potential covid risk and under the circumstances was over the top.
Was the same level of force used against Rangers supporters when they gathered in even greater numbers to celebrate wining the league and why not? Although I feel the answer is obvious.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 12:53:41 PM
And yet the photo being flashed around the world are of two male police officers throwing a 5 ft 2 ins woman to the ground, knee in the back while applying handcuffs for breaking covid rules?
I've not seen that level of force used against anyone else for breaking covid rules.
There were other vigils around the country that were not escalated by the police who kept a lower profile.
The actions of the police in fact escalated the potential covid risk and under the circumstances was over the top.
Was the same level of force used against Rangers supporters when they gathered in even greater numbers to celebrate wining the league and why not?
The police aren't homogenous, you're talking about two separate police forces in different countries dealing with two entirely different situations so of course there's going to be disparity in enforcement.
If Nicola Sturgeon wants Rangers fans to get sick & possibly die that's her decision & I respect that.
I couldn't attend an old school friends funeral because of restrictions on gatherings, I very much doubt all those women there last night were friends of Sarah so I really don't see the need for them to stand closely packed in a park waving i-phones around & potentially spreading a deadly disease.
What's wrong with putting a candle on your doorstep or on your facebook feed rather than endangering the lives of the sick & the elderly.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 01:07:14 PM
I thought the scenes at the vigil last night were quite unpleasant.
Hundreds of women gathered together.........breaking the law.
....& yet Cressida Dick, who as far as I can see must have stayed at home behaving lawfully, is facing calls to resign.
This was an illegal gathering, if they wanted to show their respects to Sarah, mass criminality wasn't the way to go about it imo.
And yet in the past you have been contemptuous of the lockdown and those who "like sheep" adhere to lockdown rules. You wouldn't just be WUMMing again now would you...?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 01:18:12 PM
And yet in the past you have been contemptuous of the lockdown and those who "like sheep" adhere to lockdown rules. You wouldn't just be WUMMing again now would you...?
The abduction & murder of Sarah Everard is terrible & obviously I'm not disputing that.
But this was an isolated incident, there isn't an epidemic of policemen hunting down & murdering women.
There isn't even an epidemic of non policemen hunting down & murdering women either.
This was just unnecessary virtue signalling, I don't know a single person & I doubt there are many people who think women should be murdered on the streets at night, so I really don't get what they're protesting.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: jassi on March 14, 2021, 01:37:42 PM
The abduction & murder of Sarah Everard is terrible & obviously I'm not disputing that.
But this was an isolated incident, there isn't an epidemic of policemen hunting down & murdering women.
There isn't even an epidemic of non policemen hunting down & murdering women either.
This was just unnecessary virtue signalling, I don't know a single person & I doubt there are many people who think women should be murdered on the streets at night, so I really don't get what they're protesting.
I don't suppose they'd really know themselves if they were asked.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 01:45:42 PM
The abduction & murder of Sarah Everard is terrible & obviously I'm not disputing that.
But this was an isolated incident, there isn't an epidemic of policemen hunting down & murdering women.
There isn't even an epidemic of non policemen hunting down & murdering women either.
This was just unnecessary virtue signalling, I don't know a single person & I doubt there are many people who think women should be murdered on the streets at night, so I really don't get what they're protesting.
I think they're probably protesting at the epidemic of violence and threatenting behaviour towards women perpetrated by men on a daily basis. I don't suppose you accept that this even exists, or perhaps you will engage in some typical "whataboutery" in which case you're quite at liberty to protest at violence and threatening behaviour perpetrated by women towards men, though you may prefer to wait until lockdown restrictions have been lifted.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 01:49:34 PM
Two of my daughter's fellow female students were raped by the same man recently, a fellow student who lived in the same large student house. They have refused to go to the police about it - even today women feel that reporting rape is a waste of time and believe that the process is almost as harrowing as the rape itself. This guy has been slung out of the house and is at large and will probably rape someone else now.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 01:54:16 PM
When I am out and about with my daughter on the streets of the city that she lives I am shocked and revolted by the amount of unwanted, threatening, leery attention she attracts from men, and this is when her mother is present, during the day walking around the shops. God knows what it's like for her when she is all dressed up for a night on the tiles with her friends.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 14, 2021, 01:55:04 PM
The police aren't homogenous, you're talking about two separate police forces in different countries dealing with two entirely different situations so of course there's going to be disparity in enforcement.
If Nicola Sturgeon wants Rangers fans to get sick & possibly die that's her decision & I respect that.
I couldn't attend an old school friends funeral because of restrictions on gatherings, I very much doubt all those women there last night were friends of Sarah so I really don't see the need for them to stand closely packed in a park waving i-phones around & potentially spreading a deadly disease.
What's wrong with putting a candle on your doorstep or on your facebook feed rather than endangering the lives of the sick & the elderly.
The BLM demo was not in another country. In fact the protesters at that event were more closely packed yet some coppers took the knee.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 01:58:26 PM
Do men feel it is their right to ogle and pester women and make them them feel uncomfortable and/or threatened? Do men think this is flattering behaviour and that women should be thankful for their attentions?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 02:01:13 PM
I think they're probably protesting at the epidemic of violence and threatenting behaviour towards women perpetrated by men on a daily basis. I don't suppose you accept that this even exists, or perhaps you will engage in some typical "whataboutery" in which case you're quite at liberty to protest at violence and threatening behaviour perpetrated by women towards men, though you may prefer to wait until lockdown restrictions have been lifted.
Lets dispense with emotion & look at the statistics.
1) "In the year to March 2020, 207 women were killed in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). This means about one in five killings were of women."
So, a great many more men are killed than women each year, yet we don't see the men out there protesting.
2) "The number of female victims was lower than in the previous year, when 241 women were killed. This was the highest number in a decade."
So now that the number of women killed is actually decreasing they're going to protest about it?
Where were they last year?
3) "In the past decade, there were 4,493 male victims of killings and 2,075 female victims (31%) in England and Wales.
More than nine out of 10 killers were men.
About 57% of female victims were killed by someone they knew, most commonly a partner or ex-partner. This compares with 39% of men."
So, according to the data, men are actually more at risk of being killed by a stranger than women.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56365412
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 02:03:42 PM
Lets dispense with emotion & look at the statistics.
1) "In the year to March 2020, 207 women were killed in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). This means about one in five killings were of women."
So, a great many more men are killed than women each year, yet we don't see the men out there protesting.
2) "The number of female victims was lower than in the previous year, when 241 women were killed. This was the highest number in a decade."
So now that the number of women killed is actually decreasing they're going to protest about it?
Where were they last year?
3) "In the past decade, there were 4,493 male victims of killings and 2,075 female victims (31%) in England and Wales.
More than nine out of 10 killers were men.
About 57% of female victims were killed by someone they knew, most commonly a partner or ex-partner. This compares with 39% of men."
So, according to the data, men are actually more at risk of being killed by a stranger than women.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56365412
Thanks for proving me 100% right - you played the whataboutery card exactly as I predicted you would, well done.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 02:10:38 PM
In 2017, the latest year for which figures are available, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 3.4m women had been victims of sexual assault in their lives. This included one million who had been raped, or had faced attempted rape.
About 650,000 men had experienced sexual assault.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 02:16:42 PM
In 2017, the latest year for which figures are available, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 3.4m women had been victims of sexual assault in their lives. This included one million who had been raped, or had faced attempted rape.
About 650,000 men had experienced sexual assault.
Ok, so how many of those were assaults by a stranger & how many were domestic abuse cases such as spousal rape?
I think it's important to make that distinction.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 14, 2021, 02:44:27 PM
I'm pretty sure that restrictions on social gathering were still in place in June 2020 even though the full lockdown had ended.
That might be true, but, the BLM protests were in support of a former armed robber who was smashed off his face on fentanyl whilst failing to cooperate with the police, so obviously he deserves much more sympathy than any middle class law abiding white woman. Otherwise, racism or something.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: John on March 14, 2021, 03:10:05 PM
It is always interesting when those taking part in a mass gathering in contravention of the COVID rules think they aren't doing anything wrong.
Can we now pick and choose which laws we obey and which ones we flaunt?
IMO Cressida Dick was correct to uphold the rule of law last night especially when some of those taking part were using the event to cause trouble while others were throwing missiles at the police in order to provoke them. It's just a pity a lot more weren't made an example of.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
It is always interesting when those taking part in a mass gathering in contravention of the COVID rules think they aren't doing anything wrong.
I can't go to the shops without wearing a face nappy, I've been prohibited from using my local gym or swimming pool for the past 4 months, can't visit relatives homes, Christmas was even criminalised & it was all for absolutely nothing if selfish people keep going out spreading germs all over the place & antagonising the police in the process every time they see something they disagree with.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 03:21:31 PM
It is always interesting when those taking part in a mass gathering in contravention of the COVID rules think they aren't doing anything wrong.
Can we now pick and choose which laws we obey and which ones we flaunt?
IMO Cressida Dick was correct to uphold the rule of law last night especially when some of those taking part were using the event to cause trouble while others were throwing missiles at the police in order to provoke them. It's just a pity a lot more weren't made an example of.
The latest craze seems to be attacking the police, we've seen it with antifa & blm, now the women want a piece of the action. It's disgraceful imo.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Eleanor on March 14, 2021, 03:47:51 PM
Has this all kicked off because there is a Policeman in the frame?
Violence against women is hardly new, so why else now?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Eleanor on March 14, 2021, 03:49:37 PM
It is always interesting when those taking part in a mass gathering in contravention of the COVID rules think they aren't doing anything wrong.
Can we now pick and choose which laws we obey and which ones we flaunt?
IMO Cressida Dick was correct to uphold the rule of law last night especially when some of those taking part were using the event to cause trouble while others were throwing missiles at the police in order to provoke them. It's just a pity a lot more weren't made an example of.
It’s odd that the other vigils around the country last night went off without incident. Makes me think the Met’s approach was unnecessarily heavy-handed. They really must have known how big burly policement dragging women to the ground, kneeling on them and handcuffing was going to play out in the media. Are they stupid or something. Don’t answer that...
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 04:15:12 PM
It’s odd that the other vigils around the country last night went off without incident. Makes me think the Met’s approach was unnecessarily heavy-handed. They really must have known how big burly policement dragging women to the ground, kneeling on them and handcuffing was going to play out in the media. Are they stupid or something. Don’t answer that...
Yes, but were all the people at these other vigils chanting at the police & throwing objects at them, or were they behaving in the way decent members of society would at a vigil for a dead woman?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: mrswah on March 14, 2021, 04:30:07 PM
Yes, but were all the people at these other vigils chanting at the police & throwing objects at them, or were they behaving in the way decent members of society would at a vigil for a dead woman?
I don’t know, it would be strange though if it was only women in London who were badly behaved, and not in Nottingham or Manchester. Perhaps the behaviour you refer to was retaliatory or provoked? Whatever it was, it was stupid of the police to get so heavy handed with these women, it played right into the hands of those who may well have been there to show the police up in the first place. Do you expect to see a massive increase in coronavirus cases in Clapham now as a result of yesterday’s vigil? As I recall there wasn’t one after thr BLM protests.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 04:35:51 PM
I noticed that the gathering in Clapham Junction was highjacked by a male locdown protester - perhaps it was him who threw the missiles at the police.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 04:36:30 PM
Are people so fed up with lockdown that, any excuse for a mass gathering will do???
On mothers day as well though.
A great deal more women, mothers many I'm sure, have been killed by this deadly virus than have been *murdered(*allegedly) by off duty police officers.
If they really care about women they should be staying home, protecting the nhs & saving lives.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 14, 2021, 04:41:09 PM
Can anyone on this board say they have never ever on even a single occasion broken the covid restrictions since the pandemic began and that every journey they have made has only been for essential reasons?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Eleanor on March 14, 2021, 04:44:20 PM
Can anyone on this board say they have never ever on even a single occasion broken the covid restrictions since the pandemic began and they every journey they have made has only been for essential reasons?
Yes I can say that.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 04:48:51 PM
I don’t know, it would be strange though if it was only women in London who were badly behaved, and not in Nottingham or Manchester. Perhaps the behaviour you refer to was retaliatory or provoked? Whatever it was, it was stupid of the police to get so heavy handed with these women, it played right into the hands of those who may well have been there to show the police up in the first place. Do you expect to see a massive increase in coronavirus cases in Clapham now as a result of yesterday’s vigil? As I recall there wasn’t one after thr BLM protests.
Perhaps you're right & it won't have been a super spreader event, but surely if so much as 1 covid death is caused as a result of contact during this gathering, that would be 1 too many, so they really shouldn't be taking that risk.
I wonder how many of these women clapped for the NHS only to now be stabbing the nurses in the back with their poor behaviour & failure to adhere to social distancing guidelines.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 05:08:41 PM
Perhaps you're right & it won't have been a super spreader event, but surely if so much as 1 covid death is caused as a result of contact during this gathering, that would be 1 too many, so they really shouldn't be taking that risk.
I wonder how many of these women clapped for the NHS only to now be stabbing the nurses in the back with their poor behaviour & failure to adhere to social distancing guidelines.
I expect some of them were nurses themselves. You’ve obviously been deeply upset by this threat to public health which is slightly at odds with your opinion last year in which you seemed to positively relish the mass extinction event, and didn’t seem to give to hoots about the deaths of thousands of old people. Nice to see you’ve suddenly discovered your heart (yeah, right!)
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 05:20:36 PM
I expect some of them were nurses themselves. You’ve obviously been deeply upset by this threat to public health which is slightly at odds with your opinion last year in which you seemed to positively relish the mass extinction event, and didn’t seem to give to hoots about the deaths of thousands of old people. Nice to see you’ve suddenly discovered your heart (yeah, right!)
What annoys me really are social justice warriors hijacking an incredibly rare event & using it as a launch pad to protest something more general that's already overwhelmingly agreed in society, that it's wrong to harm women. It's stupid & quite frankly, I'm offended by it & I am going to start a protest.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 05:22:14 PM
What annoys me really are social justice warriors hijacking an incredibly rare event & using it as a launch pad to protest something more general that's already overwhelmingly agreed in society, that it's wrong to harm women. It's stupid & quite frankly, I'm offended by it & I am going to start a protest.
No you’re not.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 09:00:33 PM
For anyone who wants to see hysterical women stand in the street & shout at police officers there's a live feed on RT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4cDKdmRBu8
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 09:31:13 PM
Here's a live stream from last nights events.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UKp6wlDARM
So far I've heard chants of 'no justice no peace', which, being a popular slogan in opposition to ethnic violence is particularly appropriate in this classic case of white on white crime.
Also, a few people called the police murderers so it appears there was some confusion about what last nights protest was all about.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 09:53:00 PM
Was Sarah Everard a particularly strong advocate for equal rights & did that motivate this policeman to murder her, & if not, then what on earth has her demise got to do with misogyny in general society?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 10:32:55 PM
Was Sarah Everard a particularly strong advocate for equal rights & did that motivate this policeman to murder her, & if not, then what on earth has her demise got to do with misogyny in general society?
Why do you think she was murdered? Because the man who murdered her had great respect and admiration for women? Or because he saw her as nothing more thsn an object, a vessel for his lusts and there for the taking and disposal of once he’d had his fill?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 10:36:46 PM
I’ve watched the footage of the vigil on Clapham Common now and literally the only crowd violence I saw was coming from men scuffling with police. Bloody typical.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 10:37:32 PM
Why do you think she was murdered? Because the man who murdered her had great respect and admiration for women? Or because he saw her as nothing more thsn an object, a vessel for his lusts and there for the taking and disposal of once he’d had his fill?
We don't yet know why he ,*allegedly, killed her.
He is a wonderful man according to his mother in law & she knows him better than any of us so I think she's in a better position to judge.
I’ve watched the footage of the vigil on Clapham Common now and literally the only crowd violence I saw was coming from men scuffling with police. Bloody typical.
Yes but they were doing it in support of women rather than being violent towards them for once so that's ok surely.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 10:42:57 PM
No it’s not ok, they were obviously there to cause trouble, too much testosterone no doubt.
You wouldn't be condemning male violence if a group of men prevented a woman's murder by beating up a predatory policeman, so I think that just goes to show certain types of male violence do have some positive roles to play in society.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 14, 2021, 10:57:28 PM
You wouldn't be condemning male violence if a group of men prevented a woman's murder by beating up a predatory policeman, so I think that just goes to show certain types of male violence do have some positive roles to play in society.
And you wouldn’t be condemning mass protests if it was a bunch of far right EDL supporters breaking covid restrictions to demonstrate outside a mosque after a terrorist attack. If you can claim to know what I think, I can do likewise when it comes to telling you what you think, good innit.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 11:03:37 PM
And you wouldn’t be condemning mass protests if it was a bunch of far right EDL supporters breaking covid restrictions to demonstrate outside a mosque after a terrorist attack. If you can claim to know what I think, I can do likewise when it comes to telling you what you think, good innit.
Perhaps, but what if the hypothetical terrorist attack had been carried out against a women's refuge?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 14, 2021, 11:09:27 PM
And, as far as I remember, it was only the great men & women of the EDL & similar far right groups who dared to protest the abuse of young women by muslim grooming gangs.
Yet they get no credit for that at all.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 15, 2021, 08:02:51 AM
And, as far as I remember, it was only the great men & women of the EDL & similar far right groups who dared to protest the abuse of young women by muslim grooming gangs.
Yet they get no credit for that at all.
So you don’t have a problem with aggression, violence and missile throwing against the police when it’s the EDL in a protest? I see.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 08:56:10 AM
So you don’t have a problem with aggression, violence and missile throwing against the police when it’s the EDL in a protest? I see.
Yes, I support extreme right wing violence, it's just left wing extremism I take issue with.
Anyway,
I was watching the live feed from the protests outside the yard last night & I noticed the protesters were demanding "justice for Sarah", & I'm glad they did that as up until that point the MET had given every indication that they intended not to prosecute & to release her killer without charge instead......
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 15, 2021, 09:18:37 AM
Yes, I support extreme right wing violence, it's just left wing extremism I take issue with.
Anyway,
I was watching the live feed from the protests outside the yard last night & I noticed the protesters were demanding "justice for Sarah", & I'm glad they did that as up until that point the MET had given every indication that they intended not to prosecute & to release her killer without charge instead......
I must admit part of me is surprised you haven't started a "Justice For Wayne" protest yet. I suppose it's only a matter of time...
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 09:20:44 AM
Just watching Sky News & apparently one of Sarah's friends has said her tribute has been hijacked & it isn't about remembering Sarah anymore.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 09:23:16 AM
I must admit part of me is surprised you haven't started a "Justice For Wayne" protest yet. I suppose it's only a matter of time...
I had read there was some outrage about the hashtag #Not All Men, & so I felt morally obliged to adopt that slogan as my signature line for the time being.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: John on March 15, 2021, 09:59:37 AM
I had read there was some outrage about the hashtag #Not All Men, & so I felt morally obliged to adopt that slogan as my signature line for the time being.
If you were hoping to provoke outrage here it seems to have failed. #trollmusttryharder
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 10:12:26 AM
"I was terrified, I've never been so scared... when I looked up, there were cameras everywhere."
And she has never been more scared than when being arrested in front of cameras, so she's obviously never experienced domestic violence or potentially threatening male behaviour in general either.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 10:33:34 AM
"I was terrified, I've never been so scared... when I looked up, there were cameras everywhere."
And she has never been more scared than when being arrested in front of cameras, so she's obviously never experienced domestic violence or potentially threatening male behaviour in general either.
She would do...
Patsy Stevenson. Actor - Presenter - Model - Dancer - Entertainer - Extra
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 15, 2021, 01:06:07 PM
Photographer Jack Hill writing in today's Times about "that" photo
Ihave witnessed and photographed a fair number of arrests over the years. Some you can see coming, this I did not.
Few if any have become talking points as this one seems to have become. Having been assigned to cover the tragic case of Sarah Everard, I was also asked to photograph the planned-for candlelit vigil on Clapham Common.
The official event was cancelled because of Covid-19 rules but throughout the afternoon there still was a significant turnout of people quietly assembling to lay flowers and pay their respects.
A steady procession of people had laid flowers at the bandstand before the vigil A steady procession of people had laid flowers at the bandstand before the vigil TIMES PHOTOGRAPHER JACK HILL As the afternoon turned to evening the solemn atmosphere changed. Different groups had arrived and one of the anti-lockdown/vaxxers tried to highjack the event by addressing the assembled crowd.
It was not long before the police, who had maintained a respectful distance on the periphery, pushed their way into the centre of the bandstand in an attempt to shut it down.
I do not know why the three women who were arrested were specifically targeted. I suspect that they were asked to move off the bandstand. Not doing so, they were then threatened with arrest. This perhaps went on for 20 minutes until a commotion ensued and Patsy Stevenson was thrown heavily to the ground.
She hit the floor right in front of me. I had been using slow shutter speeds and what little available light there was. These settings would not work now. I switched the flash on, increased the shutter speed and shot. The first two frames were completely out of focus, three and four were dark as the flash had not re-charged, five and six fortunately were sharp and she was staring straight into the lens. The police then led her and her companions away.
I texted the picture editor. Deadline for the first edition had passed but there was scope for a change in a later edition. I sent a picture within minutes from the camera to my phone and from the phone to the desk. I was surprised to receive a return message saying that the front-page picture would be changed for the second edition.
Often understandable frustrations are vented at photographers. They are visible, appear insensitive, hidden behind a camera, click, click, click, but some operate in more sophisticated ways. In a world that has become increasingly critical, I would always argue the worth in news photography. The value in this poorly exposed photograph is not its composition but its timing and that it would appear to have tapped into people’s emotions.
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Without impactful photographs our understanding of events would be incomplete. Conversely, a single still image can also present a singular view of what has happened. But this did happen and perhaps in some small way feeds into the broader political discussion about the Met police’s actions on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 06:00:21 PM
Latest Protest in Parliament Square.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIYBLd1l7Ys
I heard them chanting "F*ck Priti Patel" .....which, of course, if Priti doesn't consent, is precisely the thing they're supposed to be campaigning against. Hypocrites.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 15, 2021, 06:10:30 PM
I heard them chanting "F*ck Priti Patel" .....which, of course, if Priti doesn't consent, is precisely the thing they're supposed to be campaigning against. Hypocrites.
Odd that you should spend so much of your time watching these live protests that you so disapprove of. IMO.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 15, 2021, 06:31:54 PM
No, they're the same idiots that appear every time there's a rammy on the streets of London.
There appear to be a mixture of different angry SJW's, earlier on in the feed there were people shouting about Sarah, some are protesting the new anti-protest bill, I've seen a black lives matter sign & others are just there to hate on the police in general.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 15, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
There appear to be a mixture of different angry SJW's, earlier on in the feed there were people shouting about Sarah, some are protesting the new anti-protest bill, I've seen a black lives matter sign & others are just there to hate on the police in general.
If you don’t approve of people’s right to public protest (on whatever issue they wish to protest about) go and live in North Korea.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: John on March 15, 2021, 07:49:46 PM
Please note that this is a new thread.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 08:02:54 PM
They don't appear to know exactly what they're protesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v02cl6iYQm4
I've heard "Kill The Bill", "F*ck The Police", "Black Lives Matter" & "She was walking home".
They're saying "Who's Streets? Our Streets" when no one has taken their streets away from them & I'm finding the whole thing rather confusing.
I respect peoples right to protest but at least have a clear idea of what you're shouting about otherwise it's just stupid.
Ms Ashby was among hundreds of people who had gathered to pay their respects to 33-year-old Ms Everard, who went missing while walking home from a friend's house on 3 March.
On her way, Ms Ashby said she walked past a man who was standing on a pavement with "his genitals out of his fly". She told the BBC she went up to a group of "about five or six police officers" to ask them if they could address the situation as she was feeling "very uncomfortable".
"The female officer said 'ok, fine, we'll go' and she was about to go when a male colleague said 'we're not dealing with this anymore, no, we've had enough with the rioters tonight, we're not dealing with it'," she said.
Ms Ashby was among hundreds of people who had gathered to pay their respects to 33-year-old Ms Everard, who went missing while walking home from a friend's house on 3 March.
On her way, Ms Ashby said she walked past a man who was standing on a pavement with "his genitals out of his fly". She told the BBC she went up to a group of "about five or six police officers" to ask them if they could address the situation as she was feeling "very uncomfortable".
"The female officer said 'ok, fine, we'll go' and she was about to go when a male colleague said 'we're not dealing with this anymore, no, we've had enough with the rioters tonight, we're not dealing with it'," she said.
I have no sympathy for people who deliberately break the law.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 16, 2021, 07:20:57 PM
Protesters scrawled 'all coppers are B******s' graffiti on Battle of Britain memorial and defaced Churchill quote during Sarah Everard protest - as radical 'anti-austerity' feminist group's role in marches is revealed amid 'hijacking' complaints
Ken Marsh, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said that 90 per cent of those at the Clapham Common vigil on Saturday had walked away before it became a rally in breach of lockdown.
Mr Marsh said the peaceful vigil had been infiltrated by Antifa, BLM and Extinction Rebellion demonstrators - and officers had been punched, spat at and abused at the event.
'Twenty-six of my colleagues were abused, spat at or punched,' Mr Marsh told The Telegraph. 'One black female officer was racially abused.
One of Sarah Everard's friends has also criticised the way her death has been 'politicised'.
Helena Edwards wrote: 'Her abduction and murder is not, in my opinion, a symptom of a sexist, dangerous society. When something awful like this happens there is a rush to look for reasons and apportion blame.
'If the suspect police officer in custody is eventually tried and found guilty of her murder, then I will hold him alone responsible. I will not be blaming ''men'' or ''the police'' for the actions of one individual.'
Ms Ashby was among hundreds of people who had gathered to pay their respects to 33-year-old Ms Everard, who went missing while walking home from a friend's house on 3 March.
On her way, Ms Ashby said she walked past a man who was standing on a pavement with "his genitals out of his fly". She told the BBC she went up to a group of "about five or six police officers" to ask them if they could address the situation as she was feeling "very uncomfortable".
"The female officer said 'ok, fine, we'll go' and she was about to go when a male colleague said 'we're not dealing with this anymore, no, we've had enough with the rioters tonight, we're not dealing with it'," she said.
I’ve just seen the clip of the moments prior to the red headed girl being wrestled to the ground by the cops. She was doing nothing at all just standing there one minute with a cop badgering her to her right (who she appears to be ignoring: and then suddenly she is yanked away out of shot and presumably pushed over by the police and handcuffed. I do ‘t know how to copy the clip but it is pinned to the top of the Subject Access Twitter account.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 16, 2021, 07:23:31 PM
Out of interest what was your view of the Trump supporters who stormed Capitol Hill?
They were, all of them brave, honourable patriots & freedom fighters, there to defend children from the elite paedophile, baby eating cabal & of course I wished them all the best in their attempt to reclaim true democracy after the blatantly fraudulent election.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 16, 2021, 07:37:44 PM
They were, all of them brave, honourable patriots & freedom fighters, there to defend children from the elite paedophile, baby eating cabal & of course I wished them all the best in their attempt to reclaim true democracy after the blatantly fraudulent election.
@)(++(* So when they stormed the Capitol Building whilst simultaneously not observing social distancing and injuring cops in the process they were definitely not behaving unlawfully in your view?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 16, 2021, 07:39:22 PM
@)(++(* So when they stormed the Capitol Building whilst simultaneously not observing social distancing and injuring cops in the process they were definitely not behaving unlawfully in your view?
Not even in the slightest.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 16, 2021, 07:43:16 PM
Georgina was on her way home from Clapham Common on Saturday when she was confronted by a man exposing himself.
Which is why the PC said they had had enough of rioters that night at the vigil.
Rioters at the vigil @)(++(*
In the same article it says she was 'on her way'.
Georgina, who only wants to be known by her first name, was among hundreds of people who had gathered to pay their respects to 33-year-old Ms Everard, who went missing while walking home from a friend's house on 3 March.
On her way, she said she walked past a man who was standing on a pavement with "his genitals out of his fly". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56409023
Either the article is wrong or she couldn't get her story straight.
I refuse to 'Believe All Women' because that goes completely against the concept of the right to the presumption of innocence.
I am legally obliged to presume it never happened.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 16, 2021, 08:03:29 PM
Georgina, who only wants to be known by her first name, was among hundreds of people who had gathered to pay their respects to 33-year-old Ms Everard, who went missing while walking home from a friend's house on 3 March.
On her way, she said she walked past a man who was standing on a pavement with "his genitals out of his fly". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56409023
Either the article is wrong or she couldn't get her story straight.
I refuse to 'Believe All Women' because that goes completely against the concept of the right to the presumption of innocent.
I am legally obliged to presume it never happened.
It states early in the article she was on her way home which is confirmed by the PC retrospectively referring to rioters at the vigil.
This isn't a courtroom so what is your legal obligation.
As I said your response is disturbing. Give your head a shake man.
I'm not sure what Kate Middleton would make of your remark but I can guess.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Eleanor on March 16, 2021, 08:17:17 PM
It states early in the article she was on her way home which is confirmed by the PC retrospectively referring to rioters at the vigil.
This isn't a courtroom so what is your legal obligation.
As I said your response is disturbing. Give your head a shake man.
I'm not sure what Kate Middleton would make of your remark but I can guess.
Well I'm afraid I made a commitment many years ago to never join with the general consensus on almost any given subject whilst in discussion on internet forums.
It's not an easy job & often forces me into terribly immoral positions, but, somebody's got to do it & it will all have been for nothing if I just quit now.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 16, 2021, 08:33:32 PM
Well I'm afraid I made a commitment many years ago to never join with the general consensus on almost any given subject whilst in discussion on internet forums.
It's not an easy job & often forces me into terribly immoral positions, but, somebody's got to do it & it will all have been for nothing if I just quit now.
While I fully appreciate the role of a Devil's Advocate you have to be careful it doesn't drift into simply being a WUM.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 16, 2021, 08:34:07 PM
Well I'm afraid I made a commitment many years ago to never join with the general consensus on almost any given subject whilst in discussion on internet forums.
It's not an easy job & often forces me into terribly immoral positions, but, somebody's got to do it & it will all have been for nothing if I just quit now.
Are you a woke liberal on far right forums?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 16, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Having seen the footage now of the moment this girl was dragged off by police I'd like someone to explain how exactly it was staged (as is being widely claimed) unless the police who dragged her off were actors too and the photographer knew exactly where the woman would be hustled to the ground? Spam, you'll be able to explain I'm sure.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 17, 2021, 10:35:18 AM
Having seen the footage now of the moment this girl was dragged off by police I'd like someone to explain how exactly it was staged (as is being widely claimed) unless the police who dragged her off were actors too and the photographer knew exactly where the woman would be hustled to the ground? Spam, you'll be able to explain I'm sure.
I believe the criminal actress attended the illegal gathering with deliberate intent to defy police orders until arrested & she intentionally positioned herself to most likely be in camera shot because that's what acting involves.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 17, 2021, 10:38:36 AM
I believe the criminal actress attended the illegal gathering with deliberate intent to defy police orders until arrested & she intentionally positioned herself to likely be in camera shot because that's what acting involves.
LOL. Have you watched the footage of her arrest? Are you saying that all the women with her were also actresses, being as they were all "intentionally positioned to be in camera shot"? It's not possible that she actually was sincere in her attentions to pay her respects at this vigil is it? Do you think everyone who attended was simply there in the hope of being front page news the next day?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 17, 2021, 10:43:10 AM
LOL. Have you watched the footage of her arrest? Are you saying that all the women with her were also actresses, being as they were all "intentionally positioned to be in camera shot"? It's not possible that she actually was sincere in her attentions to pay her respects at this vigil is it? Do you think everyone who attended was simply there in the hope of being front page news the next day?
Yes I did & I just think it's a shame they didn't treat her like George Floyd.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 17, 2021, 10:45:13 AM
Yes I did & I just think it's a shame they didn't treat her like George Floyd.
Oh? You think the police should have killed her? That's proportionate I'm sure and would have done their public image no end of good, coming as it would hot on the heels of the death of a woman at the hands of one of their own. Do you actually ever give a second's thought to the utter crap you write before you press post?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 17, 2021, 10:48:20 AM
Good for her. I'm a bit old now but I grew up in the era of "Women know your place" and find it refreshing to see women so prepared to make their voice heard.
I could on about the Perceived Locus of Control and in a male dominated society that tends to be internal for men as opposed to external for women and the terrible psychological effect that has had on women for thousands of years but....
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 17, 2021, 10:51:03 AM
Oh? You think the police should have killed her? That's proportionate I'm sure and would have done their public image no end of good, coming as it would hot on the heels of the death of a woman at the hands of one of their own. Do you actually ever give a second's thought to the utter crap you write before you press post?
We don't yet know if the police actually killed George Floyd or whether his heart attack was caused by his Fentanyl & meth overdose & excited delirium & was merely complicated by his restraint.
So no I'm not saying the police should have killed her, but I would still like to have seen a knee on her neck for 8 minutes in the interests of equality.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 17, 2021, 10:59:01 AM
We don't yet know if the police actually killed George Floyd or whether his heart attack was caused by his Fentanyl & meth overdose & excited delirium & was merely complicated by his restraint.
So no I'm not saying the police should have killed her, but I would still like to have seen a knee on her neck for 8 minutes in the interests of equality.
I think it's time for you to remove your "not all men" tagline - clearly you believe women should be dealt with using life-threatening violence.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 17, 2021, 11:01:06 AM
How about having a police force that doesn't mete out rough justice to either gender?
Well if everybody, male, female & the 46 other genders, just made an effort to behave themselves then we wouldn't even need a police force in the first place so the blame lies with the public I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Eleanor on March 17, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
Well if everybody, male, female & the 46 other genders, just made an effort to behave themselves then we wouldn't even need a police force in the first place so the blame lies with the public I'm afraid.
Such a pity you don't take your own advice.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 17, 2021, 11:50:28 AM
Well if everybody, male, female & the 46 other genders, just made an effort to behave themselves then we wouldn't even need a police force in the first place so the blame lies with the public I'm afraid.
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace...la la la
Meanwhile, back in the real world....
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 17, 2021, 11:51:01 AM
I can't actually remember the last time I broke the law. I've adhered to mask wearing, social distancing, haven't visited friends or family, made no non essential journeys etc etc. If anything I've behaved better than the covid laws demanded, unlike the disgraceful criminals who were out recklessly endangering the lives of the sick & the elderly in Clapham.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 17, 2021, 11:59:35 AM
I can't actually remember the last time I broke the law. I've adhered to mask wearing, social distancing, haven't visited friends or family, made no non essential journeys etc etc. If anything I've behaved better than the covid laws demanded, unlike the disgraceful criminals who were out recklessly endangering the lives of the sick & the elderly in Clapham.
Not to mention the disgraceful criminals (who you so admire) who stormed Capitol Hill in the country with the highest Covid death toll in the world...
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 17, 2021, 01:45:07 PM
I can't actually remember the last time I broke the law. I've adhered to mask wearing, social distancing, haven't visited friends or family, made no non essential journeys etc etc. If anything I've behaved better than the covid laws demanded, unlike the disgraceful criminals who were out recklessly endangering the lives of the sick & the elderly in Clapham.
I take it you don't drive? 86% of motorists break the 20mph speed limit putting children's lives at risk.
Half of drivers often break the 70mph limit on motorways.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: G-Unit on March 17, 2021, 02:09:02 PM
I own a Toyota Prius & driving under 20mph uses battery only so I often do drive under 20 & save the planet in the process.
Well saving the planet is a complex issue but:
Consider the Toyota Prius, the most popular car of its kind. ... According to their report, “the nickel contained in Prius' battery is mined and smelted at a plant in Ontario that has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the 'dead zone' around the plant to test moon rovers.”
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Geordie on March 18, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
That's because bad drivers haven't been thoroughly criminalised as they should be imo.
Nevertheless it confirms most people are routinely prepared to break the law when there are no speed cameras around but are prepared to point the finger when others break another law.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Angelo222 on March 18, 2021, 06:08:52 PM
Nigel Farage highlighted the case today of another murdered woman Lorraine Cox who went missing last September. Lorraine Cox was allegedly killed in a room above a kebab house in Exeter after being taken there by shop worker Azam Mangori, Exeter Crown Court heard. Her body was cut up into seven pieces, which were found in an alleyway next to the shop and in woodland. The media weren't interested in this story, there was no public outcry or mass vigils held. What is the difference I hear you ask.
Sarah Everard was allegedly murdered by a cop but Lorraine Cox was killed and mutilated by an Iraqi Kurdish immigrant.
We all knew very early on that Sarah's vigil was being desicrated after being hijacked by Marxist troublemakers.
Nigel Farage highlighted the case today of another murdered woman Lorraine Cox who went missing last September. Lorraine Cox was allegedly killed in a room above a kebab house in Exeter after being taken there by shop worker Azam Mangori, Exeter Crown Court heard. Her body was cut up into seven pieces, which were found in an alleyway next to the shop and in woodland. The media weren't interested in this story, there was no public outcry or mass vigils held. What is the difference I hear you ask.
Sarah Everard was allegedly murdered by a cop but Lorraine Cox was killed and mutilated by an Iraqi Kurdish immigrant.
We all knew very early on that Sarah's vigil was being desicrated after being hijacked by Marxist troublemakers.
There was massive media interest in the Sarah Everard case before the identity of the alleged killer was known so I don’t think it can be down to that.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Angelo222 on March 18, 2021, 07:09:36 PM
There was massive media interest in the Sarah Everard case before the identity of the alleged killer was known so I don’t think it can be down to that.
There was some interest but it exploded the moment a white bald Met officer was named as a suspect.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on March 18, 2021, 07:55:53 PM
There was some interest but it exploded the moment a white bald Met officer was named as a suspect.
There was loads of interest before and the fact that the suspect is a member of the very force that was looking for her is extremely unusual and like the plot of some BBC crime drama, hence the ongoing interest.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 26, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
"Kill the Bill" protesters are back out in force in Bristol today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaexSu4N1Y
This will probably descend into violent anti police protest later, which is precisely the reason the bill was introduced.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Eleanor on March 26, 2021, 06:59:23 PM
"Kill the Bill" protesters are back out in force in Bristol today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaexSu4N1Y
This will probably descend into violent anti police protest later, which is precisely the reason the bill was introduced.
O violence for the sake of violence. That's always a good one.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on April 03, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
Oh God.
They're out in Bristol again, Killing Bill.
I've seen 'Defund The Police' signs, which I think is a ridiculous idea.
If anything we need MORE funding for police, more officers actually on the streets attempting to prevent crime, rather than turning up after the event & being able to do nothing about the situation.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on April 03, 2021, 06:55:33 PM
There are white people there making black raps on the microphone about social injustice.
It's embarrassingly cringeworthy & not only that, by the left wings own standard it's cultural appropriation & in essence, RACIST.
And they're also criticising Israel & calling for Palestine to be free. Condoning the Hamas terrorists.
They've been condemning the British Empire for slavery & colonisation, this kind of extreme left wing extremism stems from critical race theory & identity politics. It's being taught in US universities (Trump, sensibly, tried to ban it) & clearly in Bristol too.
Blaming whitey for everything isn't progression, it's regression. Identity politics was one of the tactics used by the Nazis to sow hatred & division between racial & ethnic groups. It created the holocaust.
Liberal insanity will kill this country imo. The next generation are all woke idiots.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: John on April 03, 2021, 09:04:43 PM
I've seen 'Defund The Police' signs, which I think is a ridiculous idea.
If anything we need MORE funding for police, more officers actually on the streets attempting to prevent crime, rather than turning up after the event & being able to do nothing about the situation.
They look like a bunch of bored students looking for something to do on a Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on April 05, 2021, 12:01:05 AM
They look like a bunch of bored students looking for something to do on a Saturday afternoon.
Well what do you expect the pubs are shut! ^*&& a Wee night oot for some.
So did the police make any arrests? take a knee?
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on April 07, 2021, 03:40:17 PM
PETITION STARTED TO RESTORE COLSTON STATUE AND RETURN IT TO PLINTH
More than 100 people have signed a petition urging Boris Johnson to restore the statue of Edward Colston and place it back on its plinth.
The petition asks the prime minister to remove the graffiti from the statue and ensure that when it is returned “it cannot be removed or damaged again”.
Simon Nicklin, who started the petition, wrote: “We live in a democracy, the thuggery surrounding the criminal damage was practically okayed by left-wing politicians due to anti-racist sentiment.
“This is a statue of its time and half of Bristol was built on money from Edward Colston. Are we suggesting that we rip down half of Bristol?
“We cannot and should never give into the mob mentality. Other options were being discussed, such as an explanation put onto the plinth, or proper removal after a vote, to a museum.
“We believe the graffiti must be removed. It is not part of its history. It was violently and in a thuggish way, ripped from its plinth and thrown into the river. This is mob rule. We should never give into that kind of extremist criminal behaviour.”
PETITION STARTED TO RESTORE COLSTON STATUE AND RETURN IT TO PLINTH
More than 100 people have signed a petition urging Boris Johnson to restore the statue of Edward Colston and place it back on its plinth.
The petition asks the prime minister to remove the graffiti from the statue and ensure that when it is returned “it cannot be removed or damaged again”.
Simon Nicklin, who started the petition, wrote: “We live in a democracy, the thuggery surrounding the criminal damage was practically okayed by left-wing politicians due to anti-racist sentiment.
“This is a statue of its time and half of Bristol was built on money from Edward Colston. Are we suggesting that we rip down half of Bristol?
“We cannot and should never give into the mob mentality. Other options were being discussed, such as an explanation put onto the plinth, or proper removal after a vote, to a museum.
“We believe the graffiti must be removed. It is not part of its history. It was violently and in a thuggish way, ripped from its plinth and thrown into the river. This is mob rule. We should never give into that kind of extremist criminal behaviour.”
PETITION STARTED TO RESTORE COLSTON STATUE AND RETURN IT TO PLINTH
More than 100 people have signed a petition urging Boris Johnson to restore the statue of Edward Colston and place it back on its plinth.
The petition asks the prime minister to remove the graffiti from the statue and ensure that when it is returned “it cannot be removed or damaged again”.
Simon Nicklin, who started the petition, wrote: “We live in a democracy, the thuggery surrounding the criminal damage was practically okayed by left-wing politicians due to anti-racist sentiment.
“This is a statue of its time and half of Bristol was built on money from Edward Colston. Are we suggesting that we rip down half of Bristol?
“We cannot and should never give into the mob mentality. Other options were being discussed, such as an explanation put onto the plinth, or proper removal after a vote, to a museum.
“We believe the graffiti must be removed. It is not part of its history. It was violently and in a thuggish way, ripped from its plinth and thrown into the river. This is mob rule. We should never give into that kind of extremist criminal behaviour.”
Petitions are a complete waste of time. If they want a hope of restoring the statue they are going to have to field a mayoral candidate at the next Bristol mayoral election on that ticket and hope that enough people vote for him or her to do that. And the chances of that happening are close to zero I would say.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on April 07, 2021, 04:14:09 PM
Petitions are a complete waste of time. If they want a hope of restoring the statue they are going to have to field a mayoral candidate at the next Bristol mayoral election on that ticket and hope that enough people vote for him or her to do that. And the chances of that happening are close to zero I would say.
I know, but if at least one woke SJW is upset by the petition then it's totally worth the effort of having one.
Title: Re: Street protests continue in London despite COVID rules.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on April 07, 2021, 04:24:59 PM