Won't be long now - BREXIT Day > 31 January 2020

[Brietta]

I don't believe it is .
I think the dislike of Westminster politics and of both current labour and conservative  parties is the driving force for Independence.
I know many Scots now consider that we have no control of our own future.
We get whatever the rest of the UK choose.

I think it is obvious that in Scotland the main stream political parties are now out of step with the aspirations of the Scottish people. 
The Scottish Assembly was intended as the vehicle with which to banish the aspirations of the Scottish National Party.  Didn't work out like that though did it. 
The fact that the SNP have utilised a system designed to deny everyone, not just them, the political dominance they have achieved is I think to their credit and to the failures of the others.

[misty]

I don't believe it is .
I think the dislike of Westminster politics and of both current labour and conservative  parties is the driving force for Independence.
I know many Scots now consider that we have no control of our own future.
We get whatever the rest of the UK choose.

In England I think many people considered we had no control of our future while we remained in the EU. Do Scots believe the EU-controlled Westminster politicians are to blame for all matters which fall outside the powers of your devolved government?

[Miss Taken Identity]

In England I think many people considered we had no control of our future while we remained in the EU. Do Scots believe the EU-controlled Westminster politicians are to blame for all matters which fall outside the powers of your devolved government?

Those who believe Scotland voted for SNP to get  independance are in the guessing game. They do not know why people voted the way they did. to presume they do is arrogant and pathetic.

 They believe they are the better authority, place no relevent argument,because the cannot see the wood for the trees!

Who would vote to be removed from the UK as they want to be independent ONLY to sign up to an unelected bunch of foreigners, who couldn't give two flying hoots about you. And will not let ypu haver the independence you so crave. I mean is there a new meaning to independence?


"You are so out of touch.
You equate the desire for independence and the dissatisfaction with Westminster politics to hatred of English people.
How pathetic!"

Can you give a cite about me being out of touch or is that just your arrogant opinion?

Is it ok for you to pontificate your interpretation of the people of Scotlands voting reasons in elections, but not Ok for me to explain mine?

How intolerant of you, and pathetic!



You just need to be present at anti English rants to see this for yourself!

[Erngath]

Those who believe Scotland voted for SNP to get  independance are in the guessing game. They do not know why people voted the way they did. to presume they do is arrogant and pathetic.

 They believe they are the better authority, place no relevent argument,because the cannot see the wood for the trees!

Who would vote to be removed from the UK as they want to be independent ONLY to sign up to an unelected bunch of foreigners, who couldn't give two flying hoots about you. And will not let ypu haver the independence you so crave. I mean is there a new meaning to independence?


"You are so out of touch.
You equate the desire for independence and the dissatisfaction with Westminster politics to hatred of English people.
How pathetic!"

Can you give a cite about me being out of touch or is that just your arrogant opinion?

Is it ok for you to pontificate your interpretation of the people of Scotlands voting reasons in elections, but not Ok for me to explain mine?

How intolerant of you, and pathetic!



You just need to be present at anti English rants to see this for yourself!

Have.you attended many " anti English rants"?
Why do you believe Scotland returned the 48 SNP Members of Paliament?

[Erngath]

In England I think many people considered we had no control of our future while we remained in the EU. Do Scots believe the EU-controlled Westminster politicians are to blame for all matters which fall outside the powers of your devolved government?

In what areas of life do English people feel they have no control of their future?
Surely when you vote, be it in a referendum or a General election the majority  of voters gain what they voted for?

[G-Unit]

I don't believe it is .
I think the dislike of Westminster politics and of both current labour and conservative  parties is the driving force for Independence.
I know many Scots now consider that we have no control of our own future.
We get whatever the rest of the UK choose.

So does everyone who lives in the UK. It's called democracy.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Have.you attended many " anti English rants"?
Why do you believe Scotland returned the 48 SNP Members of Paliament?

Yes, Two polling stations!
 "The English stole our oil?"  and rants of that ilk! WTF

Unlike you and many others  I looked at the history of Scotlands irish immigrants and the reasons for this.

 There is a large group in the central belt still active about anti Englis and hatred of the English rule (most of which comes from the EU ). You may want to hide the fact that sectarianism is alive and well in the central belt.

The election was not about independence so why claim it is?

I voted against independence first time and would again , I voted SNP, so why would I do that? Tactical voting is why! Many people did not want a labour MP. simple!


AND just for the record... I have written about the Irish immigration and the issues and living conditions they faced when they came over which was shocking and inhumane. They saved the economy by working in the industrial areas bringing wealth to the country. Therefore can you please refrain from making out I use the term as  derogatory intent as it is quite the opposite!

I am also a critic of the catholic church and it's influence over  uneducated, poor people and the abuse down the centuries.  I merely report. If you don't like it don't read my posts!

Thank you.

[Erngath]

So does everyone who lives in the UK. It's called democracy.

But those who seek independence don't wish to be part of the UK.

Why do you believe Scotland returned 48 SNP Members of Parliament.

[Wonderfulspam]

England is to blame for all of Scotland's problems & if only they could be freed from the tyrannical oppression of Westminster, they could live in a national socialist utopia & be self sufficient with their oil.

Isn't that the crux of the SNP's agenda?

[Miss Taken Identity]

In what areas of life do English people feel they have no control of their future?
Surely when you vote, be it in a referendum or a General election the majority  of voters gain what they voted for?

Well here is a couple of issues raised:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afMofYie4Lc

[Erngath]

Yes, Two polli

Yes, Two polling stations!
 "The English stole our oil?"  and rants of that ilk! WTF

Unlike you and many others  I looked at the history of Scotlands irish immigrants and the reasons for this.

 There is a large group in the central belt still active about anti Englis and hatred of the English rule (most of which comes from the EU ). You may want to hide the fact that sectarianism is alive and well in the central belt.

The election was not about independence so why claim it is?

I voted against independence first time and would again , I voted SNP, so why would I do that? Tactical voting is why! Many people did not want a labour MP. simple!


AND just for the record... I have written about the Irish immigration and the issues and living conditions they faced when they came over which was shocking and inhumane. They saved the economy by working in the industrial areas bringing wealth to the country. Therefore can you please refrain from making out I use the term as  derogatory intent as it is quite the opposite!

I am also a critic of the catholic church and it's influence over  uneducated, poor people and the abuse down the centuries.  I merely report. If you don't like it don't read my posts!

Thank you.

ng stations!
 "The English stole our oil?"  and rants of that ilk! WTF

Unlike you and many others  I looked at the history of Scotlands irish immigrants and the reasons for this.

 There is a large group in the central belt still active about anti Englis and hatred of the English rule (most of which comes from the EU ). You may want to hide the fact that sectarianism is alive and well in the central belt.

The election was not about independence so why claim it is?

I voted against independence first time and would again , I voted SNP, so why would I do that? Tactical voting is why! Many people did not want a labour MP. simple!


AND just for the record... I have written about the Irish immigration and the issues and living conditions they faced when they came over which was shocking and inhumane. They saved the economy by working in the industrial areas bringing wealth to the country. Therefore can you please refrain from making out I use the term as  derogatory intent as it is quite the opposite!

I am also a critic of the catholic church and it's influence over  uneducated, poor people and the abuse down the centuries.  I merely report. If you don't like it don't read my posts!

Thank you.

Goodness me.
I wouldn't miss reading your posts.
Your reference to second and third generation Irish immigrants and their right to be called Scots has been  obvious many a time.
You seem to live in the past, it's the twenty first century .
I frequently have chats with my grandchildren and their friends who are all of voting age.
They are more forward thinking and have much more confidence in  their country and countrymen and women.
I don't believe that everyone who voted SNP want.independence but many do.
No doubt tactical voting took place.
You do realise that your vote, just like mine makes no difference at all.

[Erngath]

England is to blame for all of Scotland's problems & if only they could be freed from the tyrannical oppression of Westminster, they could live in a national socialist utopia & be self sufficient with their oil.

Isn't that the crux of the SNP's agenda?

No.

[Erngath]

Well here is a couple of issues raised:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afMofYie4Lc

I don't.click on YouTube links.
Please explain the issues.

[Miss Taken Identity]

England is to blame for all of Scotland's problems & if only they could be freed from the tyrannical oppression of Westminster, they could live in a national socialist utopia & be self sufficient with their oil.

Isn't that the crux of the SNP's agenda?

Yeah but they forgot to mention the oil belongs to ..... *drum roll*  the oil companies!

The SNP raised taxes stole from the pooer to give to the 'government' to improve services.

over 40% of children live BELOW the poverty line,  Nicola laughed  and cried out that she would welcom foreing students  and provide the 40million pound to pay for their 4 year cources.


WOW yeah too right. show em english we can be welcoming to people who bring nothing but... yeah nothing
  Starving kids in Africa get more money sent to them and have people in tears ...

Scottish kids  Not so much.

But the chinese pandas who are imprisioned, even though it is a very expensive prison, are well cared for and looked after by a team... hmm Vote  for independence and get more of the same!

[Miss Taken Identity]

ng stations!
 "The English stole our oil?"  and rants of that ilk! WTF

Unlike you and many others  I looked at the history of Scotlands irish immigrants and the reasons for this.

 There is a large group in the central belt still active about anti Englis and hatred of the English rule (most of which comes from the EU ). You may want to hide the fact that sectarianism is alive and well in the central belt.

The election was not about independence so why claim it is?

I voted against independence first time and would again , I voted SNP, so why would I do that? Tactical voting is why! Many people did not want a labour MP. simple!


AND just for the record... I have written about the Irish immigration and the issues and living conditions they faced when they came over which was shocking and inhumane. They saved the economy by working in the industrial areas bringing wealth to the country. Therefore can you please refrain from making out I use the term as  derogatory intent as it is quite the opposite!

I am also a critic of the catholic church and it's influence over  uneducated, poor people and the abuse down the centuries.  I merely report. If you don't like it don't read my posts!

Thank you.


Goodness me.
I wouldn't miss reading your posts.
Your reference to second and third generation Irish immigrants and their right to be called Scots has been  obvious many a time.
You seem to live in the past, it's the twenty first century .
I frequently have chats with my grandchildren and their friends who are all of voting age.
They are more forward thinking and have much more confidence in  their country and countrymen and women.
I don't believe that everyone who voted SNP want.independence but many do.
No doubt tactical voting took place.
You do realise that your vote, just like mine makes no difference at all.

My vote made a difference in that Labour didn't get in! it was added to other people who voted that same way.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to keep some  Scottish integrity and culture. just because you and are your grandchildren think I shouldn't have a voite or express an opinion doesn't make you right!

You do come across as being arrogant and intolerant of other peoples views so who do you think you are kidding?
NOT ME!

I think you will find your grandchildren are too young to know what  life was like before Political correctness took hold. Poorer  them for that.


"I don't.click on YouTube links.
Please explain the issues."


No. You wouldn't like it. It is a short film about people who say exactly why they voted brexit., and Trump.
You would be deeply offended by pathetic people saying disgusting things about... well their lives, and how they have been affected.