Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?

[rulesapply]

Maybe someone will point out to this ‘truth warrior’ she could be held in contempt of court for her recent tweets re LL

Who is LL please?

[Nicholas]

Who is LL please?

Lucy Letby

[rulesapply]

Lucy Letby

Thanks.

[rulesapply]

Lucy Letby
Thanks.

Tried to modify it. Maybe I'll be luckier next time.

[Brietta]

Tried to modify it. Maybe I'll be luckier next time.

Hi rulesapply
- just make sure you type replies after the [/quote] at the end of the post you're replying to - that will do it.  B

[rulesapply]

Hi rulesapply
- just make sure you type replies after the  at the end of the post you're replying to - that will do it.  B

Thank you.  Has this worked? 😁

[rulesapply]

Hi rulesapply
- just make sure you type replies after the  at the end of the post you're replying to - that will do it.  B

👍

[rulesapply]

Maybe Ellen Barclay will explain why she chooses to disrespect JuJ’s - the mother of Jodi - a murder victim ?

 

This families actions are appalling !

JuJ’s was clearly a broken women - as were Jodi’s siblings - and others affected by her murder

There has been a photograph of JuJ’s posted to the LM propaganda groups where she’s coming out of Court

And some of these people appear to think these photographs were taken around the time of Luke Mitchell’s murder trial

They were not

JuJ’s had short hair around this time

Danielle Barclay refers to herself as a ‘truth warrior’ and states ‘Studied Psychology and Sociology’

Maybe then she can explain why her mother has chosen to publicly mock and disrespect JuJ’s and why - as a family - they choose to display publicly their contempt for a murder victim who I suspect they never met or knew ?

And why choose to attempt to ghost Jodi Jones 🌻

 

I understand they have the wrong end of the stick but even if what she is saying is true,  who could blame Judith Jones for looking satisfied that her daughter's killer is going to stay in prison for a very long time? I don't blame her. I call that, some kind of justice  and she can smile till the End of Days as far as I'm concerned. She's one of the very.few people who deserve a voice.

[John]

And in response Gordon Graham (From this & the JB forum and the now defunct WAP site) states,

‘It’s been like this for years!!’

I wonder if he’ll ever realise ‘why’ it’s been like this for years?

Surely he’s now aware of innocence fraud?  But has he ever bothered to ask Sandra Lean, what lessons - if any - she’s learned from cases & campaigns like killers Adrian Prout and Simon Hall?

I asked her live on air but she never answers. Not surprised really because she can't answer.  She has a wholly damaged reputation as an advocate for convicted killers given what has happened.  One would think Sandra Lean would be embarrassed by her poor decision making and go away but sadly some never learn.  Getting it wrong once is bad enough but several times is unforgivable.

[Nicholas]

I asked her live on air but she never answers. Not surprised really because she can't answer.  She has a wholly damaged reputation as an advocate for convicted killers given what has happened. One would think Sandra Lean would be embarrassed by her poor decision making and go away but sadly some never learn.  Getting it wrong once is bad enough but several times is unforgivable.

She doesn’t appear to think so ⬇️

‘‘Thinking of Michael and his family today on the 13th anniversary of the wrongful conviction that has taken so much from them.
Please take comfort in knowing that there are many who stand by you and always will. Those in the Orkney community and beyond that have felt helpless at each stage of the dishonest and sustained 12-year campaign to achieve a sham conviction and ‘close’ the case.
This case is not closed.
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL ROSS

Sandra Lean
‘Another example of Scottish Justice getting it horribly wrong. Thinking of Michael and his family and friends.

[Nicholas]

I asked her live on air but she never answers. Not surprised really because she can't answer.  She has a wholly damaged reputation as an advocate for convicted killers given what has happened.  One would think Sandra Lean would be embarrassed by her poor decision making and go away but sadly some never learn.  Getting it wrong once is bad enough but several times is unforgivable.

This isn’t about Sandra Leans decision making - it’s about her personality

[Nicholas]

I asked her live on air but she never answers. Not surprised really because she can't answer.  She has a wholly damaged reputation as an advocate for convicted killers given what has happened.  One would think Sandra Lean would be embarrassed by her poor decision making and go away but sadly some never learn.  Getting it wrong once is bad enough but several times is unforgivable.

I suspect she would have learned a great deal in 18 years when it comes to promoting innocence fraud

[Nicholas]

Have you listened to her ‘Team catch up’ video?

Lianna and Stephanie Nicol appear to me to have been taken in - not only by the ‘credibility fallacy’ but also the innocence fraud of others - including Damian Echols/WM3

Are these people even aware of Exhibit 500 http://callahan.mysite.com/wm3/img/exh500.html

Lianna and Stephanie (Nicol) appear to have known of Sandra Lean since the TV show - all of what - 3 months or so 🙄

The following is in response to someone having posted,

‘The Daily Record starting to feel the pressure

Stephanie Nicol
‘She can’t argue with the fact Jodi has never had Justice with what has come of all of this.
Regardless of opinion of Luke’s innocence, this case should’ve been watertight to put somebody in prison and put an end to the heartache of Jodi’s death and the fact that it isn’t (enough for there to be a campaign) shows there is still Justice to be done.
To say it’s “lies, mis-truths” etc is easy. To prove it is something she seemingly can’t do (so far)
If everything Sandra and the other experts involved within the case have said was lies, she would’ve been sued long ago her book would never have been published (or quickly taken off sale) and the documentaries wouldn’t have happened. An appeal is not a retrial. I’ve read the appeals papers, it is not a re-examination of evidence. It’s an examination on what influence any new evidence (evidence which was not available or known of at time of trial) or procedure failure may have had on the Jury’s decision.
Appeal court Judges are not Juries. They don’t get to find somebody Not Guilty based on evidence given at the trial. They can only work within the means they have if there is significant evidence to show that if the Jury was to have been able to take into consideration vital new evidence, there probably would’ve been a different outcome.
I recommend anybody to read the Appeal papers. It’s fascinating (and scary) to discover the actual process of an Appeal.

Is Stephanie Nicol aware of the process to sue someone?

Does she know the publisher Stephen T Manning ?

Is she aware of all the ‘lies’ and ‘mis truths’ in No Smoke - I’ve not read Sandra Leans second book

And is she aware of the fact books aren’t quickly ‘taken off sale’ ?

No Smoke is still being sold even though it’s full of lies

[Nicholas]

And it is innocence fraud - within this cult:

And those who don’t agree with the cult like leader aren’t welcome into the inner circle https://psychcentral.com/blog/narcissism-decoded/2017/03/14-ways-narcissists-can-be-like-cult-leaders#1

Sandra Lean
author and researcher
2003 – Present (14 years)
"For ten years, I have researched and written about cases of wrongful conviction and factual innocence. I have tried to assist a number of people over the years, and campaign, write articles, etc, wherever I am able to help. I obtained a Specialist Paralegal Qualification in Criminal Law in 2010, via Criminal Law Training and Strathclyde University.
I completed a PhD in 2012, the thesis title being "Hidden in Plain View," which studied the factors which lead to wrongful convictions, and why ordinary people are completely unaware of these factors.
I am currently writing two further books, as follow-ups to my first book, "No Smoke, the Shocking Truth about British Justice" which was published by Checkpoint Press, Ireland in 2008.
In my "other life," I specialise in helping people with issues of low self esteem, confidence, and the effects of bullying.
Beginning with the murder of Jodi Jones in 2003, and the subsequent conviction of her boyfriend Luke Mitchell in 2005, I have studied and written about wrongful convictions of factualy innocent individuals in the UK ever since. I currently support a number of campaigns fighting injustice
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383389.html#msg383389

Dr Sandra Lean
author and researcher The University of Stirling
About
My goal is to help share stories of people who have suffered injustice and in so doing, to alert an unsuspecting public that the same could happen to any one of them.
Since 2003, I have researched and written about cases of wrongful conviction and factual innocence. I have tried to assist a number of people over the years and campaign, write articles, etc, wherever I am able to help. Following the completion of my Honours degree in Social Sciences (Psychology and Sociology) in 2000, I obtained a Specialist Paralegal Qualification in Criminal Law in 2010, via Criminal Law Training and Strathclyde University.
I completed a PhD in 2012, (the thesis title being "Hidden in Plain View,") which studied the factors which lead to wrongful convictions and why ordinary people are completely unaware of these factors.
My first book, "No Smoke, the Shocking Truth about British Justice," was published by Checkpoint Press, Ireland in 2008. My second book, "Innocents Betrayed" was published by NGU Books in 2018 and I am currently working on a third.
I am also a fully qualified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Hypno-analyst, with a long term interest in alternative healthcare and Personal Development.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-sandra-lean-4b499a43


Yet more LinkedIn changes and yet another website removed ➡️ http://enabledbynature.com/ 🙄

[Nicholas]

And those who don’t agree with the cult like leader aren’t welcome into the inner circle https://psychcentral.com/blog/narcissism-decoded/2017/03/14-ways-narcissists-can-be-like-cult-leaders#1

Dr Sandra Lean
author and researcher The University of Stirling
About
My goal is to help share stories of people who have suffered injustice and in so doing, to alert an unsuspecting public that the same could happen to any one of them.
Since 2003, I have researched and written about cases of wrongful conviction and factual innocence. I have tried to assist a number of people over the years and campaign, write articles, etc, wherever I am able to help. Following the completion of my Honours degree in Social Sciences (Psychology and Sociology) in 2000, I obtained a Specialist Paralegal Qualification in Criminal Law in 2010, via Criminal Law Training and Strathclyde University.
I completed a PhD in 2012, (the thesis title being "Hidden in Plain View,") which studied the factors which lead to wrongful convictions and why ordinary people are completely unaware of these factors.
My first book, "No Smoke, the Shocking Truth about British Justice," was published by Checkpoint Press, Ireland in 2008. My second book, "Innocents Betrayed" was published by NGU Books in 2018 and I am currently working on a third.
I am also a fully qualified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Hypno-analyst, with a long term interest in alternative healthcare and Personal Development.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-sandra-lean-4b499a43


Yet more LinkedIn changes and yet another website removed ➡️ http://enabledbynature.com/ 🙄

Stephen T Manning stated (https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/free-innocent-prisoner-stephen-manning)

‘Hi Folks - as the publisher of Ms Sandra Lean's book - 'No Smoke: The Shocking Truth About British Justice' - I thought I should help clarify a couple of points of possible misinformation here.

I wish to make it clear that I do not wish to cause any offence, nor am I qualified to comment on the intricacies of any of the seven cases covered in Ms Lean's book, but I do think the following facts need to be stated for the record.

Firstly, 'No Smoke' (2nd edition) was published by CheckPoint Press under our 'Traditional Contract' terms. This means that the manuscript qualified for publication 'on merit' [for content, theme, and quality of writing]. Ms Lean did NOT pay us anything towards the costs of publication. Therefore, her book cannot be described as either 'self-published' or 'vanity publishing'. (Please see this link for a sample 'look inside' of the book, and judge the quality for yourself).

http://checkpointpress.com/NS28pageSample.pdf

Secondly, although admittedly not our current bestseller, 'No Smoke' not only continues to sell in steady numbers, but has also received many glowing reviews from respectable sources. (Please see link below for some examples).

http://checkpointpress.com/NSNewTitleIn ... eviews.pdf

Thirdly, and given the central theme of 'No Smoke' is to expose the many flaws and weaknesses in the British Justice System, I believe it is somewhat inappropriate to target Ms Lean or her work based on anyone's own (arguably subjective) opinion of any specific case covered in the book. Ms Lean has invested literally years of her life, unpaid, in direct support of many of the victims of these miscarriages of justice, and for that I believe she deserves our respect and admiration.     

Whatever one's views of any specific case covered in the book, the overall message of 'No Smoke' is that many innocent people fall afoul of a highly dysfunctional justice system. Those who have been brought together by such calamities in their own lives, should surely be working together in this cause - and not finding reasons to criticise other activists? I personally believe that 'No Smoke' is a courageous and insightful piece of research that does much to raise general awareness amongst the public - and gives specific support to the seven cases covered in the book. 

Ms Lean has made this her life's work, and is currently working on a doctorate in the area of criminal justice, after gaining which, she will surely be a more powerful advocate for reform. May I respectfully suggest therefore, that it is our support and gratitude we need to be expressing to her - not unhelpful criticisms.

Thank you for allowing me to post this comment here.

I sincerely hope those who have been betrayed by the justice system eventually find some peace in their endeavours..

Kind regards to all

Stephen
CheckPoint Press
'Books With Something To Say'


Corrine Mitchell
to stephen@checkpoint press

WOW! on behalf of Sandra Lean, myself (Luke Mitchells mum) and the rest of the people she has helped with her book......a big THANK YOU xx

........maybe that will make a couple of certain people re~think their comments!!!!!

‘No Smoke: The Shocking Truth About British Justice, by Sandra Lean is published by Diggory Press, Exposure Publishing
https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/claiming-killer-innocent-part-search-truth-2453025

One author, Sandra Lean, has received plenty of feedback from readers, but she says Franklin has refused to pay royalties or to provide accounts or sales figures. The authors are asking the court to order printers Lightning Source to open up their books and thus reveal what royalties they are owed.

The Eye contacted Diggory Press and asked: why will you not give authors detailed sales figures or accounts? Why will you not remove authors' books from your website when they ask? Have you withheld any royalties owed? Why have you been so difficult to contact/failed to reply to correspondence? Diggory Press failed to reply to this correspondence either and answer came there none...

More here https://podpeep.blogspot.com/2007/12/news-diggory-veinglory.html#.YCJhvBrfWhB

’Diggory did what?’

https://www.diggorypress.com/diggory-did-what