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Fck knows appears to be your only working theory and it’s not terribly impressive.  I think it’s unlikely that Madeleine died in the apartment on the evening of the 3rd May.  I think it must have happened earlier because I don’t think heavily sedated children get out of bed within an hour of being tucked up in bed, I don’t think it’s plausible that she fell off the sofa spraying blood everywhere or down the stairs to be discovered by one of thr Tapas group who then immediately hatched a plot round the dinner table, I don’t think Gerry’s dumb enough to carry her uncovered corpse through town at the same time the alarm is being raised so yeah, it’s got to have all happened earlier in the holiday.  Now, what do you think, or is it still fck knows?  You seem convinced she died in the apartment and are willing to speculate about sedation and double doses so surely your speculation goes beyond that point?  Come on, we need a really brilliant cast iron plausible, logical theory and so far there isn’t one but I feel with my brains and your beauty we can finally achieve this.

The McCanns didn't have access to a car on the evening of May 3rd, it makes sense that Gerry’s only option was to carry Maddie, clothed not uncovered, through the dark deserted streets. It's not that there isn't a logical & plausible explanation that involves the McCanns, rather that you refuse to accept the eye witness testimony of it.

Fck knows. What do you think?
I do know, on the balance of probabilities, the 15 matching DNA markers mean that was MM's bodily fluid. So again, Mrs Alf Sceptic, what do you think?
I'm beginning to smell a rat here.....

Fck knows appears to be your only working theory and it’s not terribly impressive.  I think it’s unlikely that Madeleine died in the apartment on the evening of the 3rd May.  I think it must have happened earlier because I don’t think heavily sedated children get out of bed within an hour of being tucked up in bed, I don’t think it’s plausible that she fell off the sofa spraying blood everywhere or down the stairs to be discovered by one of thr Tapas group who then immediately hatched a plot round the dinner table, I don’t think Gerry’s dumb enough to carry her uncovered corpse through town at the same time the alarm is being raised so yeah, it’s got to have all happened earlier in the holiday.  Now, what do you think, or is it still fck knows?  You seem convinced she died in the apartment and are willing to speculate about sedation and double doses so surely your speculation goes beyond that point?  Come on, we need a really brilliant cast iron plausible, logical theory and so far there isn’t one but I feel with my brains and your beauty we can finally achieve this.

I don't suppose you care if you are right or wrong.  And nor do I.

Of course not, nothing here is of any relevance. It's just a wee game.
In the immortal words of the late Jim Morrison, 'nobody here gets out alive'.

Not at all, I am perfectly open to the idea that a double dose would have the opposite effect on a small sleepy child, I’m just not that familiar with the science behind it,  So, if anyone has a link to this double dosing phenomenon whereby a small sleepy child is given double dose of a powerful sedative and then is awake enough after an hour or so of deep sleep to thenclimb the furniture or open sliding doors I would love to read it.  I always think some basis in reality is nice in cases like this, just a little bit of evidence I’m sure you would agree? 

Anyhow, in the meantime let’s assume you’re spot on.  Where on the timeline do you suppose she was discovered and whereabouts in the apartment?  You seem to hold great store by the blood spatter so behind the sofa perhaps?  Please paint a picture of how you see the tragic events unfolding up to that point, if you don’t mind.

Fck knows. What do you think?
I do know, on the balance of probabilities, the 15 matching DNA markers mean that was MM's bodily fluid. So again, Mrs Alf Sceptic, what do you think?
I'm beginning to smell a rat here.....

...and just like that, there's the real VS.

Not at all, I am perfectly open to the idea that a double dose would have the opposite effect on a small sleepy child, I’m just not that familiar with the science behind it,  So, if anyone has a link to this double dosing phenomenon whereby a small sleepy child is given double dose of a powerful sedative and then is awake enough after an hour or so of deep sleep to thenclimb the furniture or open sliding doors I would love to read it.  I always think some basis in reality is nice in cases like this, just a little bit of evidence I’m sure you would agree? 

Anyhow, in the meantime let’s assume you’re spot on.  Where on the timeline do you suppose she was discovered and whereabouts in the apartment?  You seem to hold great store by the blood spatter so behind the sofa perhaps?  Please paint a picture of how you see the tragic events unfolding up to that point, if you don’t mind.