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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1680 on: October 06, 2022, 05:20:02 PM »
Read the link for a change and find your disgust appropriate for those attempting to make money from fraudulent claims.

Be enlightened by the news that key evidence has somehow been 'lost' by the police.  And be aware that a documentary maker was the mover and shaker of all of this unseemly inheritance grab.

This is how Savile's estate was plundered
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However, inquiries by this newspaper have revealed:
  • Mrs Robinson’s compensation claim is one of 211 filed under a scheme set up by the executors of Savile’s will, National Westminster Bank, and the law firm it has engaged to run it, Osborne Clarke.
  • All aspects of these further claims are supposed to be totally secret, but many refer to events and times – for example, screenings of Top Of The Pops – which would appear to be impossible. The way the scheme works means they are subject to only the most cursory scrutiny.
  • The lawyers who represent claimants will be paid between £11,000 and £16,000 for every claim they process. Under the scheme’s fixed ‘tariff’ of damages and legal fees, this means the lawyers will be paid up to ten times as much as victims. Next month, the scheme will be challenged in the Court of Appeal.
  • The fees going to Osborne Clarke will take precedence over all other calls on Savile’s fast-shrinking estate. They have already taken £500,000 and submitted bills for a further £200,000 – still only a fraction of the sum they will eventually be due.
  • What is left of the Savile estate is currently valued at about £3 million, and the payment of these fees will empty the pot. The only genuine victims likely to receive compensation are those abused at NHS hospitals or the BBC: in those cases, the burden will be transferred from the estate to tax and licence-fee payers. But this applies to less than half the claimants. The others will probably get nothing.


The Savile compensation scheme was first advertised in national newspapers. Claims are checked by a small group of ‘scrutineers,’ made up of members of Savile’s family, a few friends and former colleagues.

They are prevented from discussing claims so it’s impossible to establish their veracity.

The task is still harder because the police, who seized Savile’s diaries that recorded his movements for more than 20 years, say they have ‘lost’ them.

But it is clear that many of the allegations being processed are vague.
An analysis prepared for the Court of Appeal reveals that out of 211 claimants, eight say an incident of abuse took place at some time in a period lasting ten years or more.
Eighty say an incident occurred in a period of between two and ten years.
Sixty-one specify a year, and 62 both a year and a season.

There are claims by people who say they were assaulted at recordings of Top Of The Pops before it started in 1964, and others by those who describe assaults at the BBC TV Centre in London at recordings of programmes which were, in fact, filmed elsewhere.

One claimant described an assault by Savile in 1945, stating that he was a manager at a Mecca Ballroom. In 1945, Savile was 19 and a ‘Bevin boy’ miner.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798457/how-savile-s-niece-s-demand-compensation-led-police-fraud-probe-daughter-says-story-false-211-claims-vast-payments-police-investigate.html

Why would I be interested in an ad hoc scheme set up by Savile's relatives?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1681 on: October 06, 2022, 05:25:37 PM »

There is a difference between defending.... or just not being taken in by wolts claims.

I would never defend him .....just don't believe he abducted Maddie from day one.

You don't know who you are protecting is actually innocent ...do you.

Let's put it this way - we know for a fact that neither have done time for abusing children as proved by some pornographic images amongst many; neither have done time for burglary or rape.

I don't think the same can be said for Brueckner, do you?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1682 on: October 06, 2022, 05:38:09 PM »
Why would I be interested in an ad hoc scheme set up by Savile's relatives?

                                  Why indeed 😒
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1683 on: October 06, 2022, 05:54:46 PM »
Let's put it this way - we know for a fact that neither have done time for abusing children as proved by some pornographic images amongst many; neither have done time for burglary or rape.

I don't think the same can be said for Brueckner, do you?


Or put it another way

Not many have left babies alone and one goes missing....so we can't compare that.

Yet he was one of the hundreds and hundreds all in the Algarve...for anyone looking for a so-called abductor.

Even though there is no proof of abduction.

He doesn't have any uncorroborated/inconclusive DNA either, it seems

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1684 on: October 06, 2022, 06:04:27 PM »
                                  Why indeed 😒

I'm not really interested in your desperate attempts to cast doubt on Savile's guilt nor your attempts to blacken Mark Williams-Thomas's name. Whether you like it or not enough evidence of Savile's guilt exists for the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority to pay his victims.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #1685 on: October 06, 2022, 06:21:43 PM »
Former police officer Mark Williams-Thomas famously exposed the harrowing abuse inflicted by the Jim’ll Fix It star, and now claims another person of note has committed similar offences.

He was the leading investigator on the 2012 ITV Exposure documentary, The Other Side of Jimmy Savile.

The programme examined claims of child sex abuse and lead to the Metropolitan Police launching a criminal investigation into allegations.

Now, a decade later, he claims there are more monsters in our midst who are “untouchable” - including one elusive high-profile man.

He told i: “There is one very significant person who I've done everything to try and get prosecuted because he is clearly a child sex offender.

“To date the CPS won't prosecute. The police and I have tried really hard to get there.

“He will die in due course and then the floodgates will open in the same way they did with Savile. That's not right. But justice takes many different forms.”

https://www.thesun.ie/news/9499015/cop-uncovered-jimmy-saviles-another-vip-paedophile/


I think there is something fundamentally wrong with the notion of posthumous justice being served out by Mark Williams Thomas.

How many children's lives are to be ruined by this alleged child abuser as Thomas sits on the fence like a huge media vulture waiting for his death before cashing in on him.

There must be a reason why the CPS haven't taken action.  If it is a nefarious one as Thomas seems to imply he has the remedy in his own hands if he has the evidence he claims to get retribution from a living pervert, not a dead one.

There is still a publishing industry in Portugal with a thirst for "true crime" best sellers and freedom of expression holds a lot of sway there, I believe.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1686 on: October 06, 2022, 06:26:08 PM »

Or put it another way

Not many have left babies alone and one goes missing....so we can't compare that.

Yet he was one of the hundreds and hundreds all in the Algarve...for anyone looking for a so-called abductor.

Even though there is no proof of abduction.

He doesn't have any uncorroborated/inconclusive DNA either, it seems

Any chance you could start having a go of paying lip service to the thread topic. Ta
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1687 on: October 06, 2022, 06:48:08 PM »
Any chance you could start having a go of paying lip service to the thread topic. Ta

Lip service ..... sorry B you only talk to the hand

Although The man who exposed Jimmy Savile thinks Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper is ‘absolutely’ still out there.

not the abductor it seems.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1688 on: October 06, 2022, 06:59:33 PM »
Lip service ..... sorry B you only talk to the hand

Although The man who exposed Jimmy Savile thinks Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper is ‘absolutely’ still out there.

not the abductor it seems.
What are you trying to say?  That MWT thinks Madeleine was kidnapped, not abducted?  *%87
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1689 on: October 06, 2022, 07:07:45 PM »
Former police officer Mark Williams-Thomas famously exposed the harrowing abuse inflicted by the Jim’ll Fix It star, and now claims another person of note has committed similar offences.

He was the leading investigator on the 2012 ITV Exposure documentary, The Other Side of Jimmy Savile.

The programme examined claims of child sex abuse and lead to the Metropolitan Police launching a criminal investigation into allegations.

Now, a decade later, he claims there are more monsters in our midst who are “untouchable” - including one elusive high-profile man.

He told i: “There is one very significant person who I've done everything to try and get prosecuted because he is clearly a child sex offender.

“To date the CPS won't prosecute. The police and I have tried really hard to get there.

“He will die in due course and then the floodgates will open in the same way they did with Savile. That's not right. But justice takes many different forms.”

https://www.thesun.ie/news/9499015/cop-uncovered-jimmy-saviles-another-vip-paedophile/


I think there is something fundamentally wrong with the notion of posthumous justice being served out by Mark Williams Thomas.

How many children's lives are to be ruined by this alleged child abuser as Thomas sits on the fence like a huge media vulture waiting for his death before cashing in on him.

There must be a reason why the CPS haven't taken action.  If it is a nefarious one as Thomas seems to imply he has the remedy in his own hands if he has the evidence he claims to get retribution from a living pervert, not a dead one.

There is still a publishing industry in Portugal with a thirst for "true crime" best sellers and freedom of expression holds a lot of sway there, I believe.

Just carry on. The only person being exposed imo is you.
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Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #1690 on: October 06, 2022, 07:13:13 PM »
Just carry on. The only person being exposed imo is you.

It really has surprised me that anyone actually believes that Saville hasn’t committed the numerous attacks he has been accused of. Even if some have been motivated by money it is simply not tenable to believe that all those who accused him were.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline The General

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« Reply #1691 on: October 06, 2022, 07:53:43 PM »
It really has surprised me that anyone actually believes that Saville hasn’t committed the numerous attacks he has been accused of. Even if some have been motivated by money it is simply not tenable to believe that all those who accused him were.
There's certainly more Savillophiles about than I would have assumed and almost certainly generates perplexity in them when considering the paradoxical stance on CB.
Each to their own, I suppose, but the moral high ground has just been taken back, ow's about that then? UrgUrgUrgUrg
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1692 on: October 06, 2022, 08:24:30 PM »
Anyone see the TOTP clip where he is surrounded by girls and obviously pinches oneof their bums at the very least.. If he does that on live TV... Then..

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1693 on: October 06, 2022, 08:28:38 PM »
Anyone see the TOTP clip where he is surrounded by girls and obviously pinches oneof their bums at the very least.. If he does that on live TV... Then..
According to the woman in question it was worse than a pinch on the bum.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.
« Reply #1694 on: October 06, 2022, 08:30:53 PM »
Just carry on. The only person being exposed imo is you.

What about me?  Or perhaps I'm not quite good enough;