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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5805 on: January 11, 2023, 09:06:34 PM »
Difference is that his opinion was subjective and not objective. The McCanns know their daughter and could predict back then, how she would react and behave.

You may prefer to give more credence to the McCann's opinions than to Amaral's, but remember you are just offering another opinion.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5806 on: January 11, 2023, 11:54:34 PM »
You may prefer to give more credence to the McCann's opinions than to Amaral's, but remember you are just offering another opinion.
Kate and Gerald McCann respond to Goncalo Amaral, 28 February 2012
Jornal da Regiao - Oeiras
  • It is not an opinion that Amaral is a liar - the fact is that Amaral is a convicted perjurer
  • It is not an opinion that Amaral is a fraudster - the fact is he was found guilty of trying to defraud his brother in a property deal while blaming the McCanns for his financial predicament.
    Just sheer nonsense in line with much else of his utterances.  He never needed anyone to make a mess of his financial situation - he was always perfectly capable of doing that for himself.
    Snip
    With regards to the villa that Goncalo Amaral had in Urbanizacao Cerro Azul, in Quelfes, there aren't any losses to the referred interviewee that are to be attributable to the parents of Madeleine McCann.
    In fact, in 2009, there were several mortgages pending on this house as well as a registered asset freezing originating from a lawsuit brought by a brother of Goncalo Amaral against him and his wife, for, demonstrably, as stated in the sentence pronounced by the 2nd Civil Court of Family and Minors Court of the District of Seixal, having sold a house to a third party, after having received the amount they should receive for it, from the mentioned brother, who had helped them pay previous debts.
    The parents of Madeleine McCann got to know about such action after their intervention in this was raised by the enforcement agent in charge, a person who also seems to have some important information about what is explained above.
    About this house there were pending asset freezings originated by the tax authorities, as the interviewee in question, despite being a civil servant, had tax problems, long before the publication of the book and of the documentary.
    Currently this house is owned by Banco Espirito Santo, one of the creditors, with visible credit problems with the referred interviewee, long before the publication of the book, and, therefore, the actions brought by the respondents. http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id408.htm
Goncalo Amaral was in deep financial trouble and had lived way beyond his means for years.  Is this acceptable circumstances for a high ranking police officer to wallow in.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5807 on: January 12, 2023, 12:04:46 AM »
Kate and Gerald McCann respond to Goncalo Amaral, 28 February 2012
Jornal da Regiao - Oeiras
  • It is not an opinion that Amaral is a liar - the fact is that Amaral is a convicted perjurer
  • It is not an opinion that Amaral is a fraudster - the fact is he was found guilty of trying to defraud his brother in a property deal while blaming the McCanns for his financial predicament.
    Just sheer nonsense in line with much else of his utterances.  He never needed anyone to make a mess of his financial situation - he was always perfectly capable of doing that for himself.
    Snip
    With regards to the villa that Goncalo Amaral had in Urbanizacao Cerro Azul, in Quelfes, there aren't any losses to the referred interviewee that are to be attributable to the parents of Madeleine McCann.
    In fact, in 2009, there were several mortgages pending on this house as well as a registered asset freezing originating from a lawsuit brought by a brother of Goncalo Amaral against him and his wife, for, demonstrably, as stated in the sentence pronounced by the 2nd Civil Court of Family and Minors Court of the District of Seixal, having sold a house to a third party, after having received the amount they should receive for it, from the mentioned brother, who had helped them pay previous debts.
    The parents of Madeleine McCann got to know about such action after their intervention in this was raised by the enforcement agent in charge, a person who also seems to have some important information about what is explained above.
    About this house there were pending asset freezings originated by the tax authorities, as the interviewee in question, despite being a civil servant, had tax problems, long before the publication of the book and of the documentary.
    Currently this house is owned by Banco Espirito Santo, one of the creditors, with visible credit problems with the referred interviewee, long before the publication of the book, and, therefore, the actions brought by the respondents. http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id408.htm
Goncalo Amaral was in deep financial trouble and had lived way beyond his means for years. Is this acceptable circumstances for a high ranking police officer to wallow in.

Can you explain why it isn't? Life is tough, some people accumulate debt & suffer financial misfortune. It happens. I don't think it would affect Amaral's ability to smell a rat if there was one though.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5808 on: January 12, 2023, 12:26:10 AM »
Can you explain why it isn't? Life is tough, some people accumulate debt & suffer financial misfortune. It happens. I don't think it would affect Amaral's ability to smell a rat if there was one though.

There is always a problem when a high ranking police officer is in the level of debt Amaral was in.  It leaves them open to corruption and the big bosses don't like that at all.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5809 on: January 12, 2023, 04:11:48 AM »
There is always a problem when a high ranking police officer is in the level of debt Amaral was in.  It leaves them open to corruption and the big bosses don't like that at all.

Both of the Offences and other problems mentioned in your comment above occurred long before The McCanns ever went to Portugal.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5810 on: January 12, 2023, 09:51:11 AM »
Can you explain why it isn't? Life is tough, some people accumulate debt & suffer financial misfortune. It happens. I don't think it would affect Amaral's ability to smell a rat if there was one though.

The McCanns and their lawyer didn't just issue injunctions and sue Amaral in their quest to shut him up. They also released information to the press about his private life hoping to discredit him.

As you say, though, that had no bearing on his professional abilities at all.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5811 on: January 12, 2023, 10:49:38 AM »
The McCanns and their lawyer didn't just issue injunctions and sue Amaral in their quest to shut him up. They also released information to the press about his private life hoping to discredit him.

As you say, though, that had no bearing on his professional abilities at all.

Amaral didn't have a private life.  Details of his misdemeanours and criminal offences were plastered all over The Portuguese Press, including a phone call to one of his ex girl friends wherein he threatened to abduct her small daughter.  We all heard that one.

Offline jassi

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5812 on: January 12, 2023, 11:24:16 AM »
Was this information released before or after he came to prominence in the McCann case ?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5813 on: January 12, 2023, 11:44:12 AM »
Was this information released before or after he came to prominence in the McCann case ?

I can't remember precisely.  Does it matter?  Amaral did and said these things.  And they are all documented.  And while he was a PJ Officer, up to his neck in debt.

You could Google, Amaral and the golden bullet with which he threatened his ex girl friend, while he was married to the lovely Sofia. but you probably wouldn't want to do that.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5814 on: January 12, 2023, 12:20:03 PM »
Was this information released before or after he came to prominence in the McCann case ?

It was released in 2012 by Kate and Gerry McCann.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5815 on: January 12, 2023, 12:26:47 PM »
It was released in 2012 by Kate and Gerry McCann.

Does this make a difference to the dreadful things done by Amaral?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5816 on: January 12, 2023, 01:35:42 PM »
It was released in 2012 by Kate and Gerry McCann.

That's interesting. They released information about Amaral, but didn't release the e-fits of the abductor.
Speaks volumes really doesn't it.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5817 on: January 12, 2023, 01:44:44 PM »
Does this make a difference to the dreadful things done by Amaral?

Releasing information about Amaral's private life gained during their efforts to silence him using an (eventually unsuccesful) injunction was just another example of the attacks he was subjected to.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5818 on: January 12, 2023, 01:49:40 PM »
There is always a problem when a high ranking police officer is in the level of debt Amaral was in.  It leaves them open to corruption and the big bosses don't like that at all.

No, same as people who gave to the fund ....didn't expect to be paying their mortgage etc etc.

Did anyone ever find out what financial debt the mccs was in.

Madeleine fund used to pay Gonçalo Amaral lawsuit
The parents of Madeleine McCann used funds raised to look for their daughter to pay court costs for the lawsuit they filed against Gonçalo Amaral, a former PJ inspector who was in charge of the case.




Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #5819 on: January 12, 2023, 01:57:19 PM »
Kate and Gerald McCann respond to Goncalo Amaral, 28 February 2012
Jornal da Regiao - Oeiras
  • It is not an opinion that Amaral is a liar - the fact is that Amaral is a convicted perjurer
  • It is not an opinion that Amaral is a fraudster - the fact is he was found guilty of trying to defraud his brother in a property deal while blaming the McCanns for his financial predicament.
    Just sheer nonsense in line with much else of his utterances.  He never needed anyone to make a mess of his financial situation - he was always perfectly capable of doing that for himself.
    Snip
    With regards to the villa that Goncalo Amaral had in Urbanizacao Cerro Azul, in Quelfes, there aren't any losses to the referred interviewee that are to be attributable to the parents of Madeleine McCann.
    In fact, in 2009, there were several mortgages pending on this house as well as a registered asset freezing originating from a lawsuit brought by a brother of Goncalo Amaral against him and his wife, for, demonstrably, as stated in the sentence pronounced by the 2nd Civil Court of Family and Minors Court of the District of Seixal, having sold a house to a third party, after having received the amount they should receive for it, from the mentioned brother, who had helped them pay previous debts.
    The parents of Madeleine McCann got to know about such action after their intervention in this was raised by the enforcement agent in charge, a person who also seems to have some important information about what is explained above.
    About this house there were pending asset freezings originated by the tax authorities, as the interviewee in question, despite being a civil servant, had tax problems, long before the publication of the book and of the documentary.
    Currently this house is owned by Banco Espirito Santo, one of the creditors, with visible credit problems with the referred interviewee, long before the publication of the book, and, therefore, the actions brought by the respondents. http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id408.htm
Goncalo Amaral was in deep financial trouble and had lived way beyond his means for years.  Is this acceptable circumstances for a high ranking police officer to wallow in.

Do you reckon then he is the only skint cop ...or if they are.... they are incapable of doing their job