Author Topic: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?  (Read 169242 times)

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Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #390 on: January 12, 2020, 10:12:59 PM »
of the dogs (see appendix 4). However, it must be stated any such indications without any physical evidence to support them can not have any evidential value, being unconfirmed indications. Additionally I consider no inference can be drawn as to whether a human cadaver has previously been in any location without other supporting physical evidence.

 And yet the indications have been used as evidence in two High Court murder trials.  Maybe the High Court judge is the higher authority than Mark Harrison. What do you think?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #391 on: January 12, 2020, 10:15:21 PM »
And yet the indications have been used as evidence in two High Court murder trials.  Maybe the High Court judge is the higher authority than Mark Harrison. What do you think?

It's been used because it hasn't been challenged.. Is the judge an authority on cadaver dog alerts... What knowledge does he have

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #392 on: January 12, 2020, 10:21:52 PM »
It's been used because it hasn't been challenged.. Is the judge an authority on cadaver dog alerts... What knowledge does he have

You do realise that if any evidence used in any trial was thought to inadmissible and admitted in error by a judge,the judiciary would order retrials immediately. The whole of the UK judiciary have no issue with the acceptance by High court judges of such alerts. You are just in denial.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #393 on: January 12, 2020, 10:28:18 PM »
You do realise that if any evidence used in any trial was thought to inadmissible and admitted in error by a judge,the judiciary would order retrials immediately. The whole of the UK judiciary have no issue with the acceptance by High court judges of such alerts. You are just in denial.

Can you provide a cite for..

The whole of the UK judiciary having no problem with the acceptance of these alerts..


Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #394 on: January 12, 2020, 10:31:30 PM »
Can you provide a cite for..

The whole of the UK judiciary having no problem with the acceptance of these alerts..

Yes by the fact the judgements stand.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #395 on: January 12, 2020, 10:38:25 PM »
Yes by the fact the judgements stand.
Pathetic..

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #396 on: January 12, 2020, 10:38:53 PM »

Offline G-Unit

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #397 on: January 12, 2020, 10:51:19 PM »
How do you decide which alerts are reliable and which are not in the absence of any forensic evidence?

The training, assessing and operational records of the team should be available. They indicate the skills and reliability of the team. A team with a good record is likely to be correct when the dog alerts.
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Offline misty

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #398 on: January 12, 2020, 11:31:28 PM »
The training, assessing and operational records of the team should be available. They indicate the skills and reliability of the team. A team with a good record is likely to be correct when the dog alerts.

The dogs in the cases of Laci Peterson & Dylan Redwine tend to contradict such assertions. IMO.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #399 on: January 13, 2020, 12:05:36 AM »
The training, assessing and operational records of the team should be available. They indicate the skills and reliability of the team. A team with a good record is likely to be correct when the dog alerts.
What constitutes a good record, and who independently tests and verifies any dog team’s reliability?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #400 on: January 13, 2020, 01:02:24 AM »
Past cases where the dogs have proven their skills, records, tests etc.

"We also saw video played in the courtroom to demonstrate how another dog, Eddie, found a sample pair of pants hidden in the Walker County Jail that was perfumed with a cadaver scent."

http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline barrier

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #401 on: January 13, 2020, 07:09:12 AM »
What is?
You winning the argument,it would seem.
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Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #402 on: January 13, 2020, 07:32:31 AM »
Pathetic..
Stings, doesn't it. Being wrong and admitting it to yourself. That's the hard part.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #403 on: January 13, 2020, 07:48:33 AM »
Stings, doesn't it. Being wrong and admitting it to yourself. That's the hard part.
I'm absolutely correct

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #404 on: January 13, 2020, 07:53:51 AM »
You do realise that if any evidence used in any trial was thought to inadmissible and admitted in error by a judge,the judiciary would order retrials immediately. The whole of the UK judiciary have no issue with the acceptance by High court judges of such alerts. You are just in denial.

Your claim that every high court judge agrees that the alerts are admissible is palinly absurd....and you can of course supply no evidence to support it...how could you...its a totally ridiculous claim...
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