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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2021, 06:10:14 PM »
This case is the beginning, middle and end of her entire career. The conflict of interest is HUGE.

And that's without looking at the various charities, books and money-making schemes over the years.

With any case like this you never rely on one source for information.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline WakeyWakey

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2021, 06:11:55 PM »
With any case like this you never rely on one source for information.

except that is exactly what the supposed case for Mitchell's innocence repeatedly asks of us

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2021, 06:26:14 PM »
I’m not prepared to take anything Sandra Lean says on face value - she’s proven to me (Since around 2010 http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg384537.html#msg384537 she’s a liar and a fraud

Corrected the link in the above
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2021, 06:36:57 PM »
Does she have more than one LinkedIn page or has it been changed over the years ? http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383389.html#msg383389

Sandra Lean
author and researcher
2003 – Present (14 years)
"For ten years, I have researched and written about cases of wrongful conviction and factual innocence. I have tried to assist a number of people over the years, and campaign, write articles, etc, wherever I am able to help. I obtained a Specialist Paralegal Qualification in Criminal Law in 2010, via Criminal Law Training and Strathclyde University.
I completed a PhD in 2012, the thesis title being "Hidden in Plain View," which studied the factors which lead to wrongful convictions, and why ordinary people are completely unaware of these factors.
I am currently writing two further books, as follow-ups to my first book, "No Smoke, the Shocking Truth about British Justice" which was published by Checkpoint Press, Ireland in 2008.
In my "other life," I specialise in helping people with issues of low self esteem, confidence, and the effects of bullying.
Beginning with the murder of Jodi Jones in 2003, and the subsequent conviction of her boyfriend Luke Mitchell in 2005, I have studied and written about wrongful convictions of factualy innocent individuals in the UK ever since. I currently support a number of campaigns fighting injustice. https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-sandra-lean-4b499a43


No she hasn’t
« Last Edit: May 06, 2021, 07:12:00 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2021, 06:39:26 PM »
This case is the beginning, middle and end of her entire career. The conflict of interest is HUGE.

And that's without looking at the various charities, books and money-making schemes over the years.

How many times did she quote Michael Naughton in her thesis ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2021, 07:04:11 PM »
How many times did she quote Michael Naughton in her thesis ?

Worth listening to Dr Michael Naughton’s speech here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P8EVLJNUGQM especially when he refers to ‘ethical behaviour’.

Michael Naughton
‘I met some of the miscarriage of justice victims and I decided to do my PhD on miscarriage of justice which became the first PhD in the UK on miscarriages of justice from a socio legal perspective. And as I was doing my PhD I didn’t just want to wrote academic articles erm I wanted to write things which were useful to the prisoners. So I started to do research to help with the prisoners voice not just to do academic work it’s to give them ammunition in their struggles so they can use the products of the research in their struggles in prison. And prisoners kept writing to me and I was doing my PhD I was getting lots and lots of letters saying I identify with this article you’ve just written. I am trapped in prison. No one will believe I’m innocent and I was writing about these things. The causes of wrongful convictions er the consequences the harm to the families the harm to society, that the guilty person is still free and this struck a chord with prisoners but I couldn’t yet do anything and then I pledged to, as soon as I got a job where I had a permanent platform from which to work to try to introduce these innocence projects that I heard about in America into the UK. So when I was appointed my job within a few weeks we’d set up the first innocence project at the University of Bristol and we were just inundated with cases and they were talking about us and again - the journalists have a very important role to play - crucial role the journalist were interested in this project. They did some stories on us in the guardian newspaper and the times newspaper and lots of young people were reading these stories and people in other universities and they said we wanna get involved in this you’ve got too many cases can we help. So I started over the last 10 years setting up innocence projects in different universities around the UK, so we’ve set up 36 innocence projects with the help crucially of people like Michael O’Brien, of people like Paddy Hill from the Birmingham 6, people like Gerry Conlon from the Guildford 4 - these iconic Miscarriages of justice cases where they could just go off you know and just have the rest of their life happy.....’’
« Last Edit: May 06, 2021, 07:07:09 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2021, 07:15:05 PM »
Does anyone remember this

This is taking a liberty  *&^^&

Justice campaigner: The Herald 15 Sep 2018ROZLYN LITTLE
“DOCTOR Sandra Lean has dedicated her career to defending those who have been wrongfully convicted.
A mother of two daughters, she had a quiet but content life, running her own business in the town of Dalkeith.
But that all changed when the area was rocked by the brutal murder of 14-year old Jodi Jones in June 2003.
The teenager was discovered in woodland behind Newbattle High School – the same school that her eldest attended. At the heart of the crime was the accusation that 14-year old Luke Mitchell, Jodi’s boyfriend, was the murderer.
The murder would take Lean in an unexpected direction, as she sought to understand the events which were unfolding on her doorstep. After doubts that Mitchell was the killer, she began to investigate, leading to the publication of her first book about miscarriages of justice.
She then gained her PHD in criminal justice, becoming a fully qualified paralegal at the same time as finishing her thesis, all the while campaigning for those wrongfully convicted.
She is currently assisting the Miscarriages of Justice Organisation, to launch a new appeal for the release of Mitchell, who was convicted of the murder of Jones.
She said: “My girls went to Newbattle High School and they walked along the path which runs at right angles to the path where Jodi was found. And the more I saw, the more I thought, ‘are my kids safe walking that path to school? Have they gone after the wrong guy?”
“I want to know, I want to be absolutely sure that they’ve got the right guy, so I know my girls are safe and that the person that did this is not still hanging about in those woods.”
Initially, she was surprised at how quickly suspicion fell on Mitchell and decided to turn away from local gossip. She was convinced of his innocence in 2009, when she first gained access to his case files.
She said: “There were at least half a dozen people who were people of interest. For example, people with previous histories of violently attacking women. These people all had a history. They were in the system, and usually when something like that happens, they trawl the system looking for people who have committed similar crimes. That’s just a standard thing. And yet they didn’t do it in this case. And you’re just left thinking, why?”
Dr Lean is back compiling evidence alongside other experts to launch a third appeal for Mitchell.
She says: “It’s wrong and it needs to be put right because it could be any one of us. And to sit where Jodi’s mum is sitting now, 15 years down the line, not knowing the truth. That cannot be acceptable.”
Along the way, she has faced criticism and even death threats from members of the local community. Some call her disrespectful for her work, but she says. “I don’t think it’s disrespectful to seek the truth under any circumstances.”
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2021, 07:17:26 PM »
except that is exactly what the supposed case for Mitchell's innocence repeatedly asks of us

No it doesn’t.

From what I have read, from different sources, I believe that the case against Luke was not proved beyond a reasonable doubt....and that is the legal standard. As the verdict was a majority one it would appear a number of the jury, who had heard all the evidence, believed so too.

There are those who will form an opinion without ever really digging any further than the primary source. We have, of course, seen that on both sides of this case but no matter what side you’re on and whether or not you find Sandra Lean credible there are serious questions about the police’s handling of the case that still haven’t been adequately answered.

A fourteen old child was questioned for 6 hours without any legal representation whatsoever. Of course the media tried their best to make Luke ‘ not like other children’ so not deserving of the same, considered treatment as other children. If it was your child what would your reaction have been? As far as the police would have been aware in those first hours this child had just seen his girlfriend brutally murdered. At the very least his mental state should have been assessed to gauge whether Luke needed extra support. Would you like any child of yours to be treated like that?

 
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2021, 07:23:19 PM »
This case is the beginning, middle and end of her entire career. The conflict of interest is HUGE.

And that's without looking at the various charities, books and money-making schemes over the years.

No it doesn’t.


Yes it does
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2021, 07:25:45 PM »
As far as the police would have been aware in those first hours this child had just seen his girlfriend brutally murdered.

You’re making things up
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2021, 07:29:25 PM »
Would you like any child of yours to be treated like that?


It was Corrine Mitchell’s suggestion to send 14 year old Luke out looking for Jodi

What ‘mental state ‘ was he in before he went out that night?

And what was he doing in those missing hours - including from 10pm to when he received a text from JuJ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Rusty

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2021, 09:09:29 PM »
Stepping over bodies.
No back routes.
Scratches on faces.
Lookalikes.
Broccoli waving.
Hall & Prout.
No Smoke.






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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2021, 12:01:58 AM »
Just the one kid, ask her what she thought of her mother's relationship with billy, she is on here replying day & night. The other was staying with the father. I'd like to know what they done with the charity money from the old WAP site. Certainly never paid any bills with it.

You can find out what they did with the money, if it was a charity, by contacting the charity commission...if you’re really interested.



« Last Edit: May 07, 2021, 07:49:16 AM by mrswah »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline WakeyWakey

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2021, 12:23:26 AM »
You can find out what they did with the money, if it was a charity, by contacting the charity commission...if you’re really interested.


no you can't

the whole point of bringing up this charity when talking about sandra's credibility is that they never did file any accounts. the money that people contributed to the cause presumably in good faith was unaccounted for.

https://www.oscr.org.uk/about-charities/search-the-register/charity-details?number=sc041953

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is DR Sandra Lean a credible source?
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2021, 12:43:11 AM »
You can find out what they did with the money, if it was a charity, by contacting the charity commission...if you’re really interested.

Do you still think that I’m Dr Lean’s daughter or do you have another member in mind this week?

How does that work then if the pair of them failed to notify the charity of the finances?

Billy Middleton did a sponsored run on a treadmill apparently for convicted killer Darren Martin - what happened to the money he raised for that - where are the receipts?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2021, 12:45:19 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation