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Off Topic and General Discussions => Off topic, general discussions and the Wide Awake Club. => Topic started by: Myster on February 04, 2023, 12:01:34 PM
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Latest info...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712599/Mystery-Nicola-Bulleys-missing-10-minutes-Police-desperate-discover-happened.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712599/Mystery-Nicola-Bulleys-missing-10-minutes-Police-desperate-discover-happened.html)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712615/Nicola-Bulley-search-LIVE-Police-focus-10-missing-minutes-hunt-missing-mother.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11712615/Nicola-Bulley-search-LIVE-Police-focus-10-missing-minutes-hunt-missing-mother.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O7IU5KE__E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O7IU5KE__E)
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Thanks for starting, I seen interview of both friend family and partner, police say no info to suggest a third party. This is a bit strange I have seen timelines etc of what they think in that timeline. One theory was the dog fell in river but nothing being reported of the dog wet. But it seems the family and friend possibly thinks something more sinister. Can we wrap our brains around this please?
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It's a strange one that's true. My daughter & I were discussing it but they aren't giving much away. Our questions were;
Was the dog wet? Was it tied up to the bench? Did the woman normally get involved in work-related calls when walking the dog? Was the river's current strong enough to carry a body away? What was the couple's relationship like? Where was her partner at the time of the disappearance?
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Thanks for starting, I seen interview of both friend family and partner, police say no info to suggest a third party. This is a bit strange I have seen timelines etc of what they think in that timeline. One theory was the dog fell in river but nothing being reported of the dog wet. But it seems the family and friend possibly thinks something more sinister. Can we wrap our brains around this please?
The police are working to a hypothesis that Nicola fell into the river. But there is no evidence supporting that so I think friends and family are right to be worried.
My thoughts and prayers are with the family and the Hell they are going through.
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Springer spaniels love water. An uncle's once jumped into my small pond without hesitation or prompting, killing several goldfish in the process. Nicola's spaniel was dry when found, so I find it hard to believe that if she threw a tennis ball into the river, her dog wouldn't have dived in after it.
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Springer spaniels love water. An uncle's once jumped into my small pond without hesitation or prompting, killing several goldfish in the process. Nicola's spaniel was dry when found, so I find it hard to believe that if she threw a tennis ball into the river, her dog wouldn't have dived in after it.
Nicola Bulley's Strava pictures of her regular morning walk reveal that she usually kept a harness on her dog - including when in the water - raising questions about why it was found close to where she vanished a week ago.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11710107/Why-did-Nicola-Bulley-dogs-harness-off.html?ico=related-replace
Agreed.
The police are still keeping all options open with apparently no let up in searching ~ and still actively looking for Nicola ~ including a close search of the car park.
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It's a strange one that's true. My daughter & I were discussing it but they aren't giving much away. Our questions were;
Was the dog wet? Was it tied up to the bench? Did the woman normally get involved in work-related calls when walking the dog? Was the river's current strong enough to carry a body away? What was the couple's relationship like? Where was her partner at the time of the disappearance?
The dog wasn’t wet and it wasn’t tied to the bench. Can’t see how the question relating to work-related calls is relevant. The river is tidal and was at low tide when Nicola went missing. None of your business, I’m sure the police have thoroughly investigated the partner.
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The police have ruled out third party involvement on the basis that they believe there is no way for her to have left the footpath without having been captured on CCTV, nor for anyone to have removed her body unseen.
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Her family however are unconvinced and seem to believe she has been abducted. I just hope they don’t get accused of “pushing their narrative” or “presenting abduction as fact” like some armchair detectives are wont to do.
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“Riley said that based on witness testimony, CCTV footage and telephone data, the force was confident that Bulley had never left the field in which she was last seen walking her spaniel, Willow. At a press conference she revealed that there was a window of only ten minutes in which Bulley’s movements were unaccounted for.”
“Riley said that dashcam, CCTV and doorbell footage had allowed detectives to “eliminate any trace so far of Nicola having left the riverside”.
She said, however, that there remained a CCTV blind spot between the field and Garstang Lane, where she could conceivably have left the area, and asked for any dashcam footage so as to rule the possibility out.”
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She isn't in the river or downstream according to some... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpv3dNOGHI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpv3dNOGHI)
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She isn't in the river or downstream according to some... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpv3dNOGHI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpv3dNOGHI)
From Abbeystead, the river flows south through Dolphinholme to Garstang, where the Lancaster Canal crosses on a small aqueduct. One mile south, at Catterall, it meets its first major tributary, the River Calder. The river then turns westwards, flowing through St Michael's On Wyre where it is joined by its second major tributary, the River Brock. It becomes tidal below the weir at St Michael's.
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This man fell in a river and sadly it took two months for his body to be found, roughly the same depth as the river in St Michaels
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1729691/cheshire-body-missing-man-found-river-weaver
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From Abbeystead, the river flows south through Dolphinholme to Garstang, where the Lancaster Canal crosses on a small aqueduct. One mile south, at Catterall, it meets its first major tributary, the River Calder. The river then turns westwards, flowing through St Michael's On Wyre where it is joined by its second major tributary, the River Brock. It becomes tidal below the weir at St Michael's.
I can see it potentially being an accident. If that happened the body would dry up at some point not to sure though. But we have this ten minute time frame, phone left on bench, which quite possibly could have been Nicola walking to river and leaving phone on bench, either way it's hard to fathom.
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I can see it potentially being an accident. If that happened the body would dry up at some point not to sure though. But we have this ten minute time frame, phone left on bench, which quite possibly could have been Nicola walking to river and leaving phone on bench, either way it's hard to fathom.
She didn’t leave her phone on the bench. It was pick up off the ground next to a tree by a passerby and placed on the bench.
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She didn’t leave her phone on the bench. It was pick up off the ground next to a tree by a passerby and placed on the bench.
I have seen snippets of the news did not know that. That makes it more curious if it was beside the tree. I best look into this more.
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More info from Nicola's close friend...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11715111/Police-searching-missing-Nicola-Bulley-continue-scour-river-key-witness-comes-forward.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11715111/Police-searching-missing-Nicola-Bulley-continue-scour-river-key-witness-comes-forward.html)
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"Meanwhile, Lancashire Police have urged the public not to spread misinformation, speculate or spread false rumours” about the case amidst a plethora of “unanswered questions” about the case."
With that in mind I feel it is my duty to say that I believe a friend or relative could have murdered her & staged an abduction.
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For all the repulsive trolls that seem to think they know better than everyone else what has happened despite not knowing Nicola, her partner, her family, her friends, or the area where she lives, from someone who does:
Her friend wrote:
Paul and Nikki both mostly work from home which is why he was at home that day. They have CCTV and there is a reason why Paul has never been a suspect. Family and friends need these accusations to stop immediately. The fact that I've had to write this is disgusting to be honest
They both do this walk regularly and Paul is very well known in the community and very well recognised
The dog never has her harness on for a chunk of that walk, it's removed at the gate of the top field and then put back on at the gate when they leave
They very rarely take the ball out for walks with willow now because she is very very protective over the ball and haven't done for a while
Nikki quite often would put her phone on loud speaker when talking
The dog was found very close to the bench and the harness. The harness was found on the floor not on the bench
Nikki is an incredibly strong swimmer
Nikki drove to the school and then left her car there and walked to the river
The dog was dry when found
The dog has since been back
There's CCTV at the back of the caravan park. The only camera that isn't working is the one that would have seen everything
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For all the repulsive trolls that seem to think they know better than everyone else what has happened despite not knowing Nicola, her partner, her family, her friends, or the area where she lives, from someone who does:
Her friend wrote:
Paul and Nikki both mostly work from home which is why he was at home that day. They have CCTV and there is a reason why Paul has never been a suspect. Family and friends need these accusations to stop immediately. The fact that I've had to write this is disgusting to be honest
They both do this walk regularly and Paul is very well known in the community and very well recognised
The dog never has her harness on for a chunk of that walk, it's removed at the gate of the top field and then put back on at the gate when they leave
They very rarely take the ball out for walks with willow now because she is very very protective over the ball and haven't done for a while
Nikki quite often would put her phone on loud speaker when talking
The dog was found very close to the bench and the harness. The harness was found on the floor not on the bench
Nikki is an incredibly strong swimmer
Nikki drove to the school and then left her car there and walked to the river
The dog was dry when found
The dog has since been back
There's CCTV at the back of the caravan park. The only camera that isn't working is the one that would have seen everything
I haven't got the faintest idea what happened to her really, but since the police have urged us not to speculate then speculate I must, because I simply will not be told what I can & cannot do by anyone.
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Supt Sally Riley, of Lancashire Police, told The Sunday Times that officers found "no evidence of a slip or fall" near the bench where Nicola's mobile phone was found but said falling from a sheer riverbank may leave no trace.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64529251
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Her friends/family say she is a very strong swimmer, but it's worth noting that even strong swimmers can & do drown sometimes. You need only mistime one breath in & can get a throat full of water & choke.
Anyway, that's as much speculation as I'm going to give right now.
I sincerely hope she is found safe & well, but I'm incredibly sceptical that she will be, given the circumstances & amount of time she's been missing already.
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'She is NOT in that river' claims forensic expert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpv3dNOGHI
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I just realised Myster already shared that link, & I lied about not speculating anymore.
Nicola Bulley: Friend shares images of missing mum on day she vanished
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D09B/production/_128530435_imagebulley.png.webp)
The first images of Nicola Bulley on the day she went missing while walking her dog have been shared with the BBC by one of her friends......
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64530529
That's a big thick coat she has on & what appear to be, possibly, ankle wellies or boots she was wearing?
If she went in the river, although friends say she may be a strong swimmer, I doubt she was practiced at swimming unexpectedly on a cold day, in a freezing cold river, whilst wearing boots & a big thick coat .
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'She is NOT in that river' claims forensic expert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpv3dNOGHI
What a load of bollocks. She could be anywhere in that river, there are cavities all along river banks which are very difficult to spot. It's not the first time a river has been searched for a missing person and they completely miss finding it only for it to be found months later. Cars that have ended up in a river are sometimes never found for years.
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What a load of bollocks. She could be anywhere in that river, there are cavities all along river banks which are very difficult to spot. It's not the first time a river has been searched for a missing person and they completely miss finding it only for it to be found months later. Cars that have ended up in a river are sometimes never found for years.
I did think the man was spouting bollocks too, but was too polite to say! Apparently the police have taken up his offer to search the entire river in a day, but now it will be in his interests NOT to find her in there otherwise risk looking a complete chump.
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Search taking place in ‘extremely challenging environment’, police say
The search for Nicola Bulley is taking place in an “extremely challenging environment”, police have said, as they announced that a private underwater rescue company was joining the operation.
Lancashire Police said in a statement on Sunday that Specialist Group International (SGI) “will join an already large, multi-agency search operation involving a wide variety of search assets and resources”.
It added: “Their capability will overlay what has already been, and continues to be done, in order to give extra search coverage along what is an extremely challenging environment to search.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nicola-bulley-speculation-fitbit-data-sister-witness-b2276015.html
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Full police press conference on Nicola's disappearance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lipNvKePz9M
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The river bank in front of the bench is very steep, according to the Police.
Martin Brunt's report said that the dog's harness was found on the grass between the bench & river bank.
The police believe something involving the dog may have happened which caused Nicola to approach the river bank.
I suppose it's possible the dog could have knocked her down the river bank.
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They should get a few of Sadie's psychic sidekicks in on the action... they'll find her, of that there is no doubt!
Take your choice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hFHXkrWZk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hFHXkrWZk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KBv2kbP3UU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KBv2kbP3UU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaXFSFWu8iw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaXFSFWu8iw)
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No, the super sonar guy is going to have things wrapped up within an hour.
https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bulley-independent-search-team-has-sonar-which-can-see-every-stick-and-stone-on-riverbed-12804392
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Martin Grime should put his puppy training on hold, purchase a dinghy and get his world beating, never falsely alerted, sniff a body through a hundred foot of concrete, super enhanced cadaver dogs to float down the river and I'm sure if Nicola was in there she would be found before lunch time. That said, I believe cadaver dogs have already been utilised in this search and have presumably uncovered nothing of significance so far.
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Martin Grime should put his puppy training on hold, purchase a dinghy and get his world beating, never falsely alerted, sniff a body through a hundred foot of concrete, super enhanced cadaver dogs to float down the river and I'm sure if Nicola was in there she would be found before lunch time. That said, I believe cadaver dogs have already been utilised in this search and have presumably uncovered nothing of significance so far.
Yes, I've seen images of a search & rescue dog in a dinghy.
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They should get a few of Sadie's psychic sidekicks in on the action... they'll find her, of that there is no doubt!
Take your choice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hFHXkrWZk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hFHXkrWZk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KBv2kbP3UU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KBv2kbP3UU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaXFSFWu8iw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaXFSFWu8iw)
"Lancashire Police said the helpline set up in the search for Ms Bulley has been inundated with self-describing psychics who claim to know what happened to her."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nicola-bulley-theories-husband-latest-news-b2276382.html
Such people should be charged with wasting police time IMO
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More on the fifty-five grand technological miracle used to search the River Wyre. Both Mail videos worth a look...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11717593/Friends-Nicola-Bulley-bring-private-diving-team-rule-theory-fell-river.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11717593/Friends-Nicola-Bulley-bring-private-diving-team-rule-theory-fell-river.html)
The actual MST Explorer Mk II gadget info...
https://marinesonictech.com/shop/towed-systems/explorer-mk-ii-system/explorer-mk-ii-system/ (https://marinesonictech.com/shop/towed-systems/explorer-mk-ii-system/explorer-mk-ii-system/)
Loading device onto rubber inflatable on the river and specs...
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More on the fifty-five grand technological miracle used to search the River Wyre. Both Mail videos worth a look...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11717593/Friends-Nicola-Bulley-bring-private-diving-team-rule-theory-fell-river.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11717593/Friends-Nicola-Bulley-bring-private-diving-team-rule-theory-fell-river.html)
The actual MST Explorer Mk II gadget info...
https://marinesonictech.com/shop/towed-systems/explorer-mk-ii-system/explorer-mk-ii-system/ (https://marinesonictech.com/shop/towed-systems/explorer-mk-ii-system/explorer-mk-ii-system/)
Loading device onto rubber inflatable on the river and specs...
Well he didn’t find her so presumably he’s 100% certain she’s not in the river now.
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Well he didn’t find her so presumably he’s 100% certain she’s not in the river now.
No, he changed the timeframe in an article I read earlier....
"If we can't find her in the next three or four days in this river, if she's not here, then I'm confident that she's not in this stretch of river. I'd be very confident of that,"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64534135
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Stretch of river being searched is ‘very dangerous’, warns local angling representative
A representative of the St Michael’s Angling Association, which manages the riverbank in the village, has described the stretch of river where rescuers are searching for Nicola Bulley as “very dangerous”.
“The combination of the depth and how cold it is at this time of year makes it very dangerous,” the representative, who asked not to be named, told The Times on Friday.
“I certainly would not want to fall in there and I’m a very strong swimmer.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nicola-bulley-theories-husband-latest-news-b2276382.html
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Latest on the River Wyre search... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49kHfXsT1R4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49kHfXsT1R4)
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St. Michael's Angling Association terms the place on the Wyre where Nicola was last seen as Deep Hole.
https://stmichaelsaa.co.uk/~rotkyiwx/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/St-Michaels-Stretch-Map-and-Key.pdf
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(https://static.independent.co.uk/2023/02/07/12/newFile-3.jpg?quality=75&width=640&auto=webp&crop=982:726,smart)
I think this image puts things to scale. I'm not certain but I think the bench is to the top left & one can see a path trodden down to the waters edge. It does seem strange to me that, if she sadly drowned, her body still remains undiscovered after days of underwater searching.
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(https://static.independent.co.uk/2023/02/07/12/SEI143211235.jpg?quality=75&width=640&auto=webp&crop=982:726,smart)
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Another view showing steep descent from bench
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I wonder if police search parties are still out there combing the surrounding area for clues/evidence...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8639646,-2.8150703,571m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8639646,-2.8150703,571m/data=!3m1!1e3)
The wooden bench is in the middle of the photo, roughly north of the 90 degree bend in the river. If she was abducted the nearest secluded roads/cul-de-sacs for any car to park in wait are to the north-west by the Wyreside Farm Caravan Park and to the north-east near the houses at Rowanwater.
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I wonder if police search parties are still out there combing the surrounding area for clues/evidence...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8639646,-2.8150703,571m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8639646,-2.8150703,571m/data=!3m1!1e3)
The wooden bench is in the middle of the photo, roughly north of the 90 degree bend in the river. If she was abducted the nearest secluded roads/cul-de-sacs for any car to park in wait are to the north-west by the Wyreside Farm Caravan Park and to the north-east near the houses at Rowanwater.
Or, the abductor could have dragged her onto a boat?
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I wonder if police search parties are still out there combing the surrounding area for clues/evidence...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8639646,-2.8150703,571m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8639646,-2.8150703,571m/data=!3m1!1e3)
The wooden bench is in the middle of the photo, roughly north of the 90 degree bend in the river. If she was abducted the nearest secluded roads/cul-de-sacs for any car to park in wait are to the north-west by the Wyreside Farm Caravan Park and to the north-east near the houses at Rowanwater.
They are appealing for dash cam footage still so obviously haven't ruled out the possibility that she didn't go in the river.
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They are appealing for dash cam footage still so obviously haven't ruled out the possibility that she didn't go in the river.
A second police press conference which starts around 26 minutes in... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DolRGVdV8u8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DolRGVdV8u8)
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Missing dog walker Nicola Bulley’s body could have been swept out to sea by now if she fell into the River Wyre as police have suggested, according to the head of a specialist rescue team searching for her.
Peter Faulding of Specialist Group International told The Times that the distance and river’s course meant the 45-year-old’s body could have reached the sea by now, as Lancashire Police said: “Clearly as time goes on, the open sea becomes much more of a possibility.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nicola-bulley-missing-theories-partner-third-party-latest-b2277868.html
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https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/nicola-bulley-we-know-her-familys-pain-say-preston-family-who-lost-a-son-in-the-same-stretch-of-river-on-the-same-day-45-years-ago-4019028
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Lets examine the facts.
1. The police claim to have additional information but they're not saying what that is. That's because they are lying and want to make sure the infantile public carry on believing in them.
2. The phone was logged onto a call, you don't drop a phone and leave it unless you're trying to resolve something huge, threatening or dangerous. Running away from danger or an assailant might be a good cause.
3. There is a long history of these types of attacks from a very experienced killer, Linda Razzell, Melanie Hall, Suzy Lamplugh, to name but a few. Are the police still trying to cover things up? Shame to investigate one of their most respected informants I suppose, wouldn't look good, would it?
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St Michael's is being inundated with grief tourists and total idiots atm, including "One woman, Karen Booth, who had come from Sheffield, said that she had previously flown to Portugal to look for Madeleine McCann."
So many arrogant tw@ts who think they can do a better job than the police but who are just making a total nuisance of themselves and upsetting the local residents. A pox on all their houses.
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St Michael's is being inundated with grief tourists and total idiots atm, including "One woman, Karen Booth, who had come from Sheffield, said that she had previously flown to Portugal to look for Madeleine McCann."
So many arrogant tw@ts who think they can do a better job than the police but who are just making a total nuisance of themselves and upsetting the local residents. A pox on all their houses.
I thought we were supposed to be looking for Madeleine? Isn't that precisely what her parents asked the public to do? How else was Karen supposed to help look for Maddie, if not by visiting Portugal & searching?
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Could she have slipped into the river and hit her head on a rock? I can't imagine the dog not going in after her though.
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Could she have slipped into the river and hit her head on a rock? I can't imagine the dog not going in after her though.
There was a programme about the case last night on Channel 5. What I didn't know until watching it is that the dog's harness was found halfway down the bank to the river. I'm wondering if the dog was heading for the river, Nicola went to her at that point, was taking off the harness, lost her balance and fell back into the river. The dog may have not seen what happened to her. All conjecture and her family and friends seem pretty convinced something more sinister has occurred.
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Williams-Thomas telling Lancashire Police their job!...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731315/Eight-clues-Nicola-Bulley-disappearance-Ex-detective-says-cops-look-phone-fitbit.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731315/Eight-clues-Nicola-Bulley-disappearance-Ex-detective-says-cops-look-phone-fitbit.html)
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Williams-Thomas telling Lancashire Police their job!...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731315/Eight-clues-Nicola-Bulley-disappearance-Ex-detective-says-cops-look-phone-fitbit.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11731315/Eight-clues-Nicola-Bulley-disappearance-Ex-detective-says-cops-look-phone-fitbit.html)
he really is a most tiresome man. How is looking closely at the dog going to help?
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There was a programme about the case last night on Channel 5. What I didn't know until watching it is that the dog's harness was found halfway down the bank to the river. I'm wondering if the dog was heading for the river, Nicola went to her at that point, was taking off the harness, lost her balance and fell back into the river. The dog may have not seen what happened to her. All conjecture and her family and friends seem pretty convinced something more sinister has occurred.
Yes it could very well have happened that way. She was taking off the harness for the dog to have a swim.
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Lets examine the facts.
1. The police claim to have additional information but they're not saying what that is. That's because they are lying and want to make sure the infantile public carry on believing in them.
2. The phone was logged onto a call, you don't drop a phone and leave it unless you're trying to resolve something huge, threatening or dangerous. Running away from danger or an assailant might be a good cause.
3. There is a long history of these types of attacks from a very experienced killer, Linda Razzell, Melanie Hall, Suzy Lamplugh, to name but a few. Are the police still trying to cover things up? Shame to investigate one of their most respected informants I suppose, wouldn't look good, would it?
It was a Teams call, she was listening only.
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There was a programme about the case last night on Channel 5. What I didn't know until watching it is that the dog's harness was found halfway down the bank to the river. I'm wondering if the dog was heading for the river, Nicola went to her at that point, was taking off the harness, lost her balance and fell back into the river. The dog may have not seen what happened to her. All conjecture and her family and friends seem pretty convinced something more sinister has occurred.
Because they don't want to give up hope. If they accept she may have fell in the river then there really is no hope at all. It is a steep embankment. Not too difficult to tumble down I'd imagine. I still find it strange that she hasn't bloated & resurfaced by now, but I'm also having great difficulty picturing her being marched across open fields at knife point to a waiting getaway car.
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Well surprise, surprise.
Look who's just rocked up, Avon and Somerset Constabulary in the form of retired Superintendent Julia "sharp as a beach ball" Mackay, fully supporting the Lancashire Heroes theory that Bulley accidentally fell into a river.
Rough translation = "Try and keep this one covered up for us will you, otherwise we are in for an arse kicking".
You couldn't make it up if you tried, you really couldn't.
AH.
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Recreating Nicola Bulley's route... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxCZ6hSHVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxCZ6hSHVw)
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A third Lancashire Police press conference to be held today at 11:30am...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11750537/Detectives-approach-anglers-fishing-river-Nicola-Bulley-vanished.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11750537/Detectives-approach-anglers-fishing-river-Nicola-Bulley-vanished.html)
Drop yellow pegman on the blue dots for ground level views...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8608671,-2.8148346,476a,35y,39.35t/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8608671,-2.8148346,476a,35y,39.35t/data=!3m1!1e3)
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A third Lancashire Police press conference to be held today at 11:30am...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11750537/Detectives-approach-anglers-fishing-river-Nicola-Bulley-vanished.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11750537/Detectives-approach-anglers-fishing-river-Nicola-Bulley-vanished.html)
Drop yellow pegman on the blue dots for ground level views...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8608671,-2.8148346,476a,35y,39.35t/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8608671,-2.8148346,476a,35y,39.35t/data=!3m1!1e3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAaV8iMs55E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAaV8iMs55E)
or... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF0eo1X3poU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF0eo1X3poU)
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Williams-Thomas and another ex-cop poking their unwanted noses in again and being wise after the event. Just let Lancashire Police get on with the job without interference from publicity-seeking has-beens, for chrissake!...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757683/Police-slammed-leaving-Nicola-Bulleys-family-terrible-place.html#newcomment (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757683/Police-slammed-leaving-Nicola-Bulleys-family-terrible-place.html#newcomment)
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Williams-Thomas and another ex-cop poking their unwanted noses in again and being wise after the event. Just let Lancashire Police get on with the job without interference from publicity-seeking has-beens, for chrissake!...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757683/Police-slammed-leaving-Nicola-Bulleys-family-terrible-place.html#newcomment (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757683/Police-slammed-leaving-Nicola-Bulleys-family-terrible-place.html#newcomment)
‘Appalling’: Nicola Bulley’s family say personal issues revealed to stop people selling stories
Detective Superintendent Rebecca Smith said Ms Bulley was classed by police as a “high-risk” missing person
In a statement released through Lancashire Police, Nicola Bulley’s family said: “It has now been three weeks since Nikki went missing. We, as a family, believe that the public focus has become distracted from finding Nikki, and more about speculation and rumours into her and Paul’s private life.
“As a family, we were aware beforehand that Lancashire Police, last night, released a statement with some personal details about our Nikki. Although we know that Nikki would not have wanted this, there are people out there speculating and threatening to sell stories about her. This is appalling and needs to stop. The police know the truth about Nikki and now the public need to focus on finding her.
The public focus has to be on finding her and not making up wild theories about her personal life.
“Despite what some media outlets and individuals are suggesting, we are being updated daily and receive support from our family liaison officers.
“Nikki is such a wonderful daughter, sister, partner and mother and is missed dearly – we all need you back in our lives.
“Nikki, we hope you are reading this and know that we love you so much and your girls want a cuddle. We all need you home. You can reach out to us, or you can contact MissingPeople.org.uk. Don’t be scared, we all love you so very much.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nicola-bulley-family-statement-alcohol-menopause-b2283655.html
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Williams-Thomas and another ex-cop poking their unwanted noses in again and being wise after the event. Just let Lancashire Police get on with the job without interference from publicity-seeking has-beens, for chrissake!...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757683/Police-slammed-leaving-Nicola-Bulleys-family-terrible-place.html#newcomment (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11757683/Police-slammed-leaving-Nicola-Bulleys-family-terrible-place.html#newcomment)
There is a suggestion elsewhere that MWT got hold of info re: Nicola’s vulnerabilities and that is why the police had to go public with them before he did, the interfering swine.
ETA having watched the video he actually admits that’s exactly what happened!
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There is a suggestion elsewhere that MWT got hold of info re: Nicola’s vulnerabilities and that is why the police had to go public with them before he did, the interfering swine.
ETA having watched the video he actually admits that’s exactly what happened!
Haven't read or watched anything from MWT. I am not a fan. But I'll have a look now.
I'm all for transparency but sometimes you just have to have trust and allow the police to get on with their job. Quite obviously the family would initially have confided all relevant factors to the police who have said they were aware of the situation from the beginning.
The volume of social media comment was adversely affecting confidence in the police as well as damaging their investigation, forcing them and the family to release personal information into the public domain. Where it is absolutely nobody's business. But if it was disrupting police work, I can see why it had to be done.
It is great that people are concerned. It is great that the value of publicising a missing person is recognised. But I think going OTT on the internet with all sorts of wild speculation is not the way to do it. A family finding itself in the unwanted spotlight of unimaginable distress and trauma, just should not be treated like an episode of the Kardashians
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There is a suggestion elsewhere that MWT got hold of info re: Nicola’s vulnerabilities and that is why the police had to go public with them before he did, the interfering swine.
ETA having watched the video he actually admits that’s exactly what happened!
He's such a pain in the a$$! But what else can you expect from someone so clueless that he thinks Bamber is innocent, Pistorius didn't intend to kill Reeva Steenkamp and Madeleine walked and wandered?
(Sorry John... but I know you really, really don't think the latter)
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I think the police may have jumped to conclusions in this case.
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I think the police may have jumped to conclusions in this case.
They have explored and investigated all options, but “lost in the river” is the most plausible and logical one.
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They have explored and investigated all options, but “lost in the river” is the most plausible and logical one.
Why is it plausible and logical though?
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Why is it plausible and logical though?
I’m not spelling it out for the hard of thinking.
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I’m not spelling it out for the hard of thinking.
You made the statement but if you don't explain it's just babble imo.
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You made the statement but if you don't explain it's just babble imo.
I don’t need to explain. It’s self evident imo. If you think abduction/murder or ran away to start a new life is more plausible and logical then that’s entirely up to you, and nothing I say will change your mind. I certainly have no intention of squabbling over it.
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I don’t need to explain. It’s self evident imo. If you think abduction/murder or ran away to start a new life is more plausible and logical then that’s entirely up to you, and nothing I say will change your mind. I certainly have no intention of squabbling over it.
Fine. I don't think it's self evident that it's plausible and logical that she was 'lost in the river' just because she had problems.
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Fine. I don't think it's self evident that it's plausible and logical that she was 'lost in the river' just because she had problems.
I didn’t say that though did I? It‘s been the most plausible and logical scenario for some weeks now. No evidence of foul play, no evidence she left the field, went missing next to a river which has claimed other lives over the years. Why is it not the most plausible and logical explanation? You must have one far more plausible which you are busting a gut to share, I can’t possibly imagine what it is but let’s hope you manage to keep it to yourself.
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I didn’t say that though did I? It‘s been the most plausible and logical scenario for some weeks now. No evidence of foul play, no evidence she left the field, went missing next to a river which has claimed other lives over the years. Why is it not the most plausible and logical explanation? You must have one far more plausible which you are busting a gut to share, I can’t possibly imagine what it is but let’s hope you manage to keep it to yourself.
I don't know how her problems affected her, although the police clearly did as they were called out on a previous occasion. Whatever they knew seems to have influenced their choice of the hypothesis they formed.
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I don't know how her problems affected her, although the police clearly did as they were called out on a previous occasion. Whatever they knew seems to have influenced their choice of the hypothesis they formed.
And it's a good example of how police often keep back information in their investigations which mean that internet sleuths nearly always have an incomplete understanding of the facts. A salient lesson to all those who have enjoyed speculating over the last few weeks.
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A better walkthrough of Nicola Bulley's daily route. Surprising how vast the area is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K81RJ09YoOA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K81RJ09YoOA)
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And it's a good example of how police often keep back information in their investigations which mean that internet sleuths nearly always have an incomplete understanding of the facts. A salient lesson to all those who have enjoyed speculating over the last few weeks.
There is still an incomplete understanding.
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There is still an incomplete understanding.
You don't say.
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Police recover body from river near where mum of two went missing
Police searching for missing mum of two Nicola Bulley have recovered a body from the river near to where she went missing.
"We were called today at 11:36am to reports of a body in the River Wyre, close to Rawcliffe Road," Lancashire Police said in a statement.
"An underwater search team and specialist officers have subsequently attended the scene, entered the water and have sadly recovered a body.
"No formal identification has yet been carried out, so we are unable to say whether this is Nicola Bulley at this time.
"Procedures to identify the body are ongoing. We are currently treating the death as unexplained.
"Nicola's family have been informed of developments and our thoughts are with them at this most difficult of times. We ask that their privacy is respected."
Earlier, a road was cordoned off along the River Wyre in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire, as was a footpath.
The area has been the focus of an intensive search operation since Ms Bulley, 45, was last seen at about 9.10am on 27 January while walking her dog.
Sky News correspondent Inzamam Rashid said the helicopter was in the air for about 25 minutes.
A police drone has also been in use.
https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bulley-divers-searching-river-and-helicopter-circling-near-where-mum-of-two-went-missing-12815062
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Found way downstream from the bench...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769017/Police-hunting-Nicola-Bulley-body-river-mile-went-missing.html?ito=pull-notification&ci=rBggcvCs_m&xi=b4956762-7dfa-4a1a-94fd-a4e87161c395&ai=11769017 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769017/Police-hunting-Nicola-Bulley-body-river-mile-went-missing.html?ito=pull-notification&ci=rBggcvCs_m&xi=b4956762-7dfa-4a1a-94fd-a4e87161c395&ai=11769017)
Sky News... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE)
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So about a mile away from where she went missing. What has that knowitall expert Peter Faulding got to say for himself now?
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Found way downstream from the bench...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769017/Police-hunting-Nicola-Bulley-body-river-mile-went-missing.html?ito=pull-notification&ci=rBggcvCs_m&xi=b4956762-7dfa-4a1a-94fd-a4e87161c395&ai=11769017 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11769017/Police-hunting-Nicola-Bulley-body-river-mile-went-missing.html?ito=pull-notification&ci=rBggcvCs_m&xi=b4956762-7dfa-4a1a-94fd-a4e87161c395&ai=11769017)
Sky News... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE)
Tragic: one can only hope that the internet response will show due respect to Nicola and her family and leave them in peace.
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So about a mile away from where she went missing. What has that knowitall expert Peter Faulding got to say for himself now?
Sadly the police working hypothesis that she fell in and drowned seems to have been the right one.
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Sadly the police working hypothesis that she fell in and drowned seems to have been the right one.
It was the most plausible,logical explanation. My heart goes out to her family who have gone through hell these last three weeks, not helped by the repulsive activities of amateur sleuths and internet trolls.
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The body is confirmed as Nicola’s. Her family have just released a most scathing attack on the media and the internet ghouls and armchair detectived who have cumulatively added an extra layer of pain and upset to their overwhelming loss. One could really feel their agony and rage in that statement.
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Better get this fellow onto the MM case...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11772723/Amateur-medium-body-hunt-missing-Nicola-Bulley.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11772723/Amateur-medium-body-hunt-missing-Nicola-Bulley.html)
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“We will never be able to comprehend what Nikki had gone through in her last moments and that will never leave us.
"We will never forget Nikki, how could we, she was the centre of our world, she was the one who made our lives so special and nothing will cast a shadow over that.
"Our girls will get the support they need from the people who love them the most.
"And it saddens us to think that one day we will have to explain to them that the press and members of the public accused their dad of wrongdoing, misquoted and vilified friends and family. This is absolutely appalling, they have to be held accountable this cannot happen to another family.
"We tried last night to take in what we had been told in the day, only to have Sky News and ITV making contact with us directly when we expressly asked for privacy. They again, have taken it upon themselves to run stories about us to sell papers and increase their own profiles. It is shameful they have acted in this way. Leave us alone now."
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Imagine the enduring hell for Nicola’s family if her body had never been found. The forums and facebook pages devoted to her disappearance. The endless posts pointing the finger at her partner, examing his every utterance, and facial tic and finding them all evidence of guilt, the years of grief tourism from amateur detectives that St Michaels would have to put up, the so-called experts making their 3 part Channel 5 documentaries telling us what “really” happened to Nicola. Oh how many endless hours of enjoyment so many ghouls and armchair sleuths have now been denied because the truth is known. They must be gutted.
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Fact or Fantasy?...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/20/nicola-bulley-man-who-found-body-claims-psychic-gift-led-discovery/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1676922814 (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/20/nicola-bulley-man-who-found-body-claims-psychic-gift-led-discovery/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1676922814)
https://directory.spiritualpsychicstv.online/listing/jasondrothwell (https://directory.spiritualpsychicstv.online/listing/jasondrothwell)
https://www.facebook.com/Jasontarotread/ (https://www.facebook.com/Jasontarotread/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YejVuJQDO9I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YejVuJQDO9I)
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Well I don’t often agree with Ms Philips but this time she’s bang on the money imo.
Blame social media for rise of trauma voyeurs
Melanie PhillipsFebruary 06 2023, 9.00pm
The Lancashire police came under sustained criticism for saying at an early stage that Bulley was probably in the river. They have now been vindicated in that professional judgment. A diving expert, Peter Faulding, had declared that Bulley was “categorically” not in that stretch of the river because if she was he would have found her. Now he himself has been targeted by accusations of incompetence, provoking him to protest that searching the reeds wasn’t part of his remit.
People are still leaping to apportion blame before all the facts are known. Questions remain, however, about other features of the police investigation, in particular their release of information about Bulley’s psychological state — a disclosure of personal matters that drew expressions of “concern” both from the prime minister and home secretary. We may now find out the answers to these questions. What is already clear, however, is that although the family criticised the media and members of the public but not the police — in a statement the police read out — the behaviour of too many other people has been shockingly stupid, arrogant and cruel.
People descended on the the village where Bulley lived, St Michael’s on Wyre, to conduct their own detective work. The police, who said this made their job “incredibly difficult”, had to issue a 48-hour dispersal order because so many ghouls and amateur sleuths were taking videos for social media. Some recorded themselves digging in woodland. Village residents were forced to hire a private security company to stop these trespassers trampling their gardens and breaking into their outbuildings.
Conspiracy theories swirled uncontrollably around the internet. A friend of Bulley’s told the BBC that “vile theories” about the family’s private life, including unfounded speculation about the involvement of her partner, Paul Ansell, were “incredibly hurtful”. Even after the body was found, baroque theories of “planted” evidence, “dumped” bodies and possible third-party involvement continued to surface.
This callous and self-regarding behaviour by members of the public is the product of social media. Some people believe that reading claims on the internet turns them into an instant expert. From a position of at best ignorance and at worst gullible belief in speculation, outright lies and other nonsense, they then think they know better than the professionals.
Even if the police can justifiably be criticised for their inept public presentation, the assumption by members of the public that they make better investigators combines arrogance with idiocy.
True, the body was found by two people out walking by the river. And the police certainly face questions about why they didn’t manage to discover it. But the two walkers found it by chance. And those who descended on the village seem to have been mainly motivated by narcissism, filming themselves to become famous for five minutes in the alternative universe of social media where the line between fact and fantasy is blurred.
“True crime” dramatisations on podcasts, mini-series and documentaries blur this line. In America, these have been credited with reopening cases or creating petitions for pardons signed by hundreds of thousands of people. In some cases, people have verbally attacked or harassed those they believe to be guilty, heedless of any errors or distortions in these presentations.
Internet content that exploits other people’s suffering has been termed “trauma voyeurism”. America’s National Sexual Violence Resource Centre has observed: “Trauma voyeurism exploits the suffering and vulnerability of a victim for the purpose of securing viewership — often by regarding a victim’s body, privacy, name, and pain as public domain, with zero consideration for its impact on that victim.”
The culture of voyeurism is perhaps the most corrosive element of both social media and reality TV, in which interactions with the real world and personal relationships with real people are replaced by vicarious experience. This provides an illusion of social participation without incurring any costs or other consequences. This in turn deadens empathy, the core of a compassionate and civilised human being. Empathy is the ability to account for another person’s feelings, emotions or experiences. Social media, by contrast, encourages self-absorption and self-aggrandisement. Through the safety of vicarious experience, people can boast, blame, humiliate or pass judgment on others.
In the case of Nicola Bulley, social media users exploited the agony of her family to big themselves up. “It’s almost as though social media idiocy and reality have become blurred,” said the leader of Wyre council, Michael Vincent. “There has to be an element of decency. We can’t allow social media to be a place where there is no morality.”
Alas, that is precisely what has happened. A family’s tragedy, which also raised issues of genuine concern about policing, has been turned into a sickening theatre of cruelty
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I bet he regrets opening his big mouth now
Nicola Bulley underwater search specialist taken off list of experts
February 22 2023, 9.45am
For two and a half days he and his team scanned a three-mile stretch of the river, between St Michael’s and Cartford Bridge, using a sonar device, which he described as “state of the art”.
“If Nicola was in that river I would have found her — I guarantee you that — and she’s not in that section of the river,” he said on February 8. On Sunday her body was found 0.9 miles downstream from St Michael’s. A full inquest is expected in June.
Faulding has hit out at “unfair criticism” of his approach and media appearances, and said it was “unfair for me to be the fall guy”. He said he was trying to help the Bulley family and was “just one man” compared with the vast police search resources.
Nicola Bulley was found dead in a river more than three weeks after she went missing
Nicola Bulley was found dead in a river more than three weeks after she went missing
PA
The NCA’s Expert Advisers Database (EAD), which is used to identify and source experts who can add value to law enforcement investigations, listed Faulding as a registered search expert. It covers a broad range of expertise in more than two dozen areas, from accountants, forensic artists and archaeology to entomology, psychiatrists, marine investigation and toxicology.
A spokesman for the NCA said: “The NCA does not employ, endorse or accredit experts on our adviser database. The database is subject to continual review and its purpose is to maintain a list of expertise UK law enforcement can draw upon when required.
“We proactively seek feedback from customers regarding experts’ performance and contribution.The monitoring of performance equally applies to individuals and organisations who become involved in investigations without NCA engagement.”
A review into what happened in the Bulley case is being carried out internally and SGI could be put back on the list depending on its findings. Faulding said: “I’m not allowed to comment on that under the rules of the NCA.”
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Having said even before he commenced his search that he felt certain she was not in the river and having been highly critical of the police search up until that point, one can’t help but feel that Faulding conducted his search with a large degree of bias already in place, and that it was in his interests to ensure his search team uncovered nothing. Never unquestioningly believe a professional expert with a self-proclaimed “best in the world” search equipment or ability. Unconscious or conscious bias played its part here in his embarrassing failure IMO.
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As you posted VS, according to The Times, Peter Faulding's SGI group have been removed from the NCA's list of experts while a review is carried out...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11791411/Specialist-divers-failed-Nicola-Bulley-removed-National-Crime-Agency-expert-list.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11791411/Specialist-divers-failed-Nicola-Bulley-removed-National-Crime-Agency-expert-list.html)
I originally thought that he was tasked with only searching the River Wyre from the weir upstream to Rowanwater mobile home park/lodges in the north-east, but it seems he also later sonar-ed downstream of the weir as far as and beyond the spot where Nicola Bulley was found. If so, how did 2 or 3 men on an inflatable miss seeing her where the river was quite narrow? One too occupied with viewing the sonar screen, the other(s) with steering the boat and keeping watch on the sonar tow-fish so it didn't get stuck perhaps? Or was she not in the river at all at that time but placed there later? Rawcliffe Road and a small lay-by are very close to the river at that point* so an ideal dropping off point after dark. Lay-by and tree/shrub in stream opposite where Nicola was found centre of photo...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8637128,-2.8381412,264a,35y,12.92h,22.78t/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8637128,-2.8381412,264a,35y,12.92h,22.78t/data=!3m1!1e3)
Rawcliffe Road and lay-by on streetview...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8648775,-2.8376289,3a,49.8y,205.82h,80.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbZ-iRFNT3mT4Ldg0hOPrng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8648775,-2.8376289,3a,49.8y,205.82h,80.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbZ-iRFNT3mT4Ldg0hOPrng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
ETA... *and unlit.
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And so the conspiracy brigade rolls on.
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And so the conspiracy brigade rolls on.
Have to wait for the June inquest and post-mortem findings, such as how long she was in the Wyre.
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inquest-hears-nicola-bulleys-family-8187862 (https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inquest-hears-nicola-bulleys-family-8187862)
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Have to wait for the June inquest and post-mortem findings, such as how long she was in the Wyre.
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inquest-hears-nicola-bulleys-family-8187862 (https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inquest-hears-nicola-bulleys-family-8187862)
As if the results of that are going to stop the nonsense. *%87
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As if the results of that are going to stop the nonsense. *%87
The ghouls are at it already.
I don't think our society is sick ~ I think it is terminally ill.
Books telling 'untold story' of Nicola Bulley slammed as family grieves
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/books-telling-untold-story-of-nicola-bulley-slammed-as-family-grieves/ar-AA17ULER?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=698caf255b934697a171a955d7e6a161&ei=26
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The ghouls are at it already.
I don't think our society is sick ~ I think it is terminally ill.
Books telling 'untold story' of Nicola Bulley slammed as family grieves
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/books-telling-untold-story-of-nicola-bulley-slammed-as-family-grieves/ar-AA17ULER?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=698caf255b934697a171a955d7e6a161&ei=26
Dreadful.
I don't understand some people's sick fascination with this tragic case.
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Dreadful.
I don't understand some people's sick fascination with this tragic case.
Because an 'expert' enlisted by the family, went around telling the media that Nicola wasn't in the river, & that her phone had been placed on the bench as a decoy.
That didn't help.
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Curtis Media, the guy who was recently lambasted by the MailOnline, having a chat with a local gent...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9ePFhZOiY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9ePFhZOiY)
... and a walk downstream past the weir to the spot where Nicola Bulley was found...
https://youtu.be/8Wxjrzvtw1E?t=638 (https://youtu.be/8Wxjrzvtw1E?t=638)
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It’s being reported that the police have returned to the site where Nicola’s body was found this afternoon….
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It’s being reported that the police have returned to the site where Nicola’s body was found this afternoon….
Trying to discover if it was possible she floated over the shallow weir and/or searching for missing clothing, such as gilet, woolly hat, shoes?...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11960259/Police-divers-return-river-Nicola-Bulleys-body-found.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11960259/Police-divers-return-river-Nicola-Bulleys-body-found.html)
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-police-searching-river-29693315 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-police-searching-river-29693315)
Fitbit maybe?
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-police-searching-river-29693315 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-bulley-police-searching-river-29693315)
Fitbit maybe?
Had the only just realised it was missing?
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Had the only just realised it was missing?
It seems they couldn't locate it when news first broke, or they did but received no data from it. Most Fitbits are supposed to be waterproof to 50 metres, but even so would lose battery charge after only 1-2 weeks.
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It seems they couldn't locate it when news first broke, or they did but received no data from it. Most Fitbits are supposed to be waterproof to 50 metres, but even so would lose battery charge after only 1-2 weeks.
my point is why would they wait months to try and locate an item that would have been immediately apparent as missing when the body was recovered?
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The Inquest begins...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12234203/Nicola-Bulley-alive-entered-water-drowned-inquest-told.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12234203/Nicola-Bulley-alive-entered-water-drowned-inquest-told.html)
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The Inquest begins...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12234203/Nicola-Bulley-alive-entered-water-drowned-inquest-told.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12234203/Nicola-Bulley-alive-entered-water-drowned-inquest-told.html)
She fell in the river & drowned. The End.
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She fell in the river & drowned. The End.
Going for a paddle or walked in on purpose?
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Tumbled down the steep embankment. The dogs harness was found between the bench & the river. Maybe the dog pushed her in.
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Going for a paddle or walked in on purpose?
It will be inconclusive imo, but there are probably some distraught trolls reading this headline who were still clinging to the hope that she’d been murdered by her OH. In fact knowing the way their minds work I doubt an inquest will change their minds about that anyway.
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Peter "If she's in the river, we'll find her" Faulding won't be at this inquest. No wonder, both he and the Lancashire Police dive team didn't exactly pass with flying colours on the search front...
https://twitter.com/peter_faulding/status (https://twitter.com/peter_faulding/status/1672162378455056385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1672162378455056385%7Ctwgr%5E949d08685d41681ac6be03364e8af04dfdd96647%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Fuk-today%2F23613820.nicola-bulley-peter-faulding-releases-statement-ahead-inquest%2F)
A picture essay of events to confuse you even more...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236063/Nicola-Bulleys-final-hours-laid-bare.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236063/Nicola-Bulleys-final-hours-laid-bare.html)
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I was wrong about it being ruled inconclusive. It's been ruled an accident. Consolation and closure for her family. The best possible outcome.
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a statement from Nicola’s family today
: “The last few months have been extremely tough to process for our family. The emotional impact will stay long in our hearts and whilst we will never forget the loss of our Nikki, we will forever remember her as a brilliant mum, partner, daughter and sister that we all knew and loved so very much.
“Sadly, we feel the need to again raise and address the issue of social media. It’s upsetting that we’ve continued to receive negative targeted messages and still wildly inaccurate speculation being shared on numerous platforms.”