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Offline Wonderfulspam

What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« on: April 28, 2022, 04:27:48 PM »
Crimewatch Reconstruction.

https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=746

8:30pm

The McCanns pull the bedroom door too & leave for the tapas restaurant.

9:05pm

Gerry enters the apartment & notices the bedroom door was open further than he'd left it.
Madeleine is laying where he'd left her, he stands & observes how beautiful she is & spends roughly 10 minutes inside the apartment watching football or something. He returns the door to it's original position.

9:10/15pm

Gerry meets Jez Wilkins outside & chats for no more than 5 mins (according to Jez)
Jane walks past unnoticed.

9:30pm

Matt enters 5a, the door is now wide enough open that he can see the twins breathing in their cots, & there's no breeze blowing or flapping curtains. (although this inconvenience was scrubbed from history in the Crimewatch reconstruction)

10:00pm

Kate enters, notices the door is wider open than she'd left it, pulls the door too & the wind slams it shut, she looks in & can't tell if some flat bedclothes are Madeleine or not. The window & shutters are now open.

You all know the rest.


Question is, could an abductor have been in the apartment all that time?

If so, he must have been in there before Gerry's check, so how did he know Gerry was coming enabling him to hide in time?

Where did he hide?

IMO, he must have been in the apartment during Matt's check because the window & shutters weren't open.

So why did he spend the best part of an hour in the apartment & what was he doing all that time?

I'd be interested to hear from members the explanations?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2022, 11:06:53 AM by John »
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

Online G-Unit

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2022, 07:54:54 PM »
Crimewatch Reconstruction.

https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=746

8:30pm

The McCanns pull the bedroom door too & leave for the tapas restaurant.

9:05pm

Gerry enters the apartment & notices the bedroom door was open further than he'd left it.
Madeleine is laying where he'd left her, he stands & observes how beautiful she is & spends roughly 10 minutes inside the apartment watching football or something. He returns the door to it's original position.

9:10/15pm

Gerry meets Jez Wilkins outside & chats for no more than 5 mins (according to Jez)
Jane walks past unnoticed.

9:30pm

Matt enters 5a, the door is now wide enough open that he can see the twins breathing in their cots, & there's no breeze blowing or flapping curtains. (although this inconvenience was scrubbed from history in the Crimewatch reconstruction)

10:00pm

Kate enters, notices the door is wider open than she'd left it, pulls the door too & the wind slams it shut, she looks in & can't tell if some flat bedclothes are Madeleine or not. The window & shutters are now open.

You all know the rest.


Question is, could an abductor have been in the apartment all that time?

If so, he must have been in there before Gerry's check, so how did he know Gerry was coming enabling him to hide in time?

Where did he hide?

IMO, he must have been in the apartment during Matt's check because the window & shutters weren't open.

So why did he spend the best part of an hour in the apartment & what was he doing all that time?

I'd be interested to hear from members the explanations?

Working out how to open the shutter and window?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2022, 11:09:15 AM by John »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2022, 07:58:49 PM »
This thread is based on a facetious premise.  DFTT
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2022, 08:00:30 PM »
Working out how to open the shutter and window?

Yes, maybe that's it.

Wolters would know, he's worked it all out & solved the case.

Good to see someone have a crack at an answer, everyone else ran away or pretended not to read this, can't for the life of me imagine why  @)(++(*

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2022, 08:01:33 PM »
This thread is based on a facetious premise.  DFTT

What, the thread that you didn't read, backed up by the Crimewatch documentary I linked to.

Ok dear, run along now  @)(++(*
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Offline barrier

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2022, 08:23:10 PM »
There was footie on wasn't there .


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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2022, 08:29:29 PM »
There was footie on wasn't there .

The 'Madeleine Was Here' propaganda documentary has been scrubbed from Youtube, only parts 1 & 2 are there, 3 & 4 with the crucial parts about football, Jane crying when Gerry contradicts her & Matt's check are nowhere to be found.

How strange, but we all saw it.

It's interesting to note that in Gerry's statement he & Kate both enter the building using keys, but Matt enters through the sliding patio door that is always unlocked.

Those pesky unreliable twice translated witness statements, where the translator added parts about keys for no reason.
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Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2022, 09:22:34 PM »
There was footie on wasn't there .

 So he, yeah, he, he went off to his check and he was longer than a bit, because I can remember Kate sort of saying ‘Oh bet he’s put the footy on’, because I think there was a football match that night and she sort of said ‘Oh I think he’s probably’, erm, you know, ‘got side tracked and put the telly on and catch up on the score’, so he was gone a bit longer than normal.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2022, 09:23:38 PM »
Working out how to open the shutter and window?

Interesting idea but wasn’t he a cat burglar, specialising, we are to believe, on this kind of holiday apartment?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2022, 09:54:26 PM »
All the vagueries can just be written off can't they.

An intruder entered at non specific time via non specific entrance, took Maddie out of non specific exit, whisked her away unnoticed in his campervan whilst towing his jag & murdered her by non specific means then deposited her body in non specific location, & that's the end of it.
Who needs to know minor details, they are irrelevant.
He abducted & murdered her & that's final. No need to question anymore.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2022, 11:10:36 AM by John »
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2022, 10:01:25 PM »
Interesting idea but wasn’t he a cat burglar, specialising, we are to believe, on this kind of holiday apartment?

Jesus wept, he was stealing cats aswell?
Well that's done it for me, I can excuse rape & murder of humans but leave the poor little cats alone for gods sake!
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Offline sadie

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2022, 11:16:51 PM »
Crimewatch Reconstruction.

https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=746

8:30pm

The McCanns pull the bedroom door too & leave for the tapas restaurant.

9:05pm

Gerry enters the apartment & notices the bedroom door was open further than he'd left it.
Madeleine is laying where he'd left her, he stands & observes how beautiful she is & spends roughly 10 minutes inside the apartment watching football or something. He returns the door to it's original position.

9:10/15pm

Gerry meets Jez Wilkins outside & chats for no more than 5 mins (according to Jez)
Jane walks past unnoticed.

9:30pm

Matt enters 5a, the door is now wide enough open that he can see the twins breathing in their cots, & there's no breeze blowing or flapping curtains. (although this inconvenience was scrubbed from history in the Crimewatch reconstruction)

10:00pm

Kate enters, notices the door is wider open than she'd left it, pulls the door too & the wind slams it shut, she looks in & can't tell if some flat bedclothes are Madeleine or not. The window & shutters are now open.

You all know the rest.


Question is, could an abductor have been in the apartment all that time?

If so, he must have been in there before Gerry's check, so how did he know Gerry was coming enabling him to hide in time?

Where did he hide?

IMO, he must have been in the apartment during Matt's check because the window & shutters weren't open.

So why did he spend the best part of an hour in the apartment & what was he doing all that time?

I'd be interested to hear from members the explanations?

Every facetious question  above is answered in Sadies Theory, which has probably been wiped now becos it crosses the ethos of this forum.  The forum is heavily sceptic biased in many of our opinions


Interesting to see that my folder has changed colour on this video as well as on the other crimewatch video.    It should be lavender coloured, not torquoise

Even more interesting to see that one of my folders is the only one shown.

Hey ho!


PS the filmers have Madeleines bedroom door hinged on the wrong side.  Bad mistake IMO
« Last Edit: April 29, 2022, 11:11:42 AM by John »

Offline faithlilly

Re: What was an abductor doing in the apartment all that time?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2022, 11:55:38 PM »
Every facetious question  above is answered in Sadies Theory, which has probably been wiped now becos it crosses the ethos of this forum.  The forum is heavily sceptic biased in many of our opinions


Interesting to see that my folder has changed colour on this video as well as on the other crimewatch video.    It should be lavender coloured, not torquoise

Even more interesting to see that one of my folders is the only one shown.

Hey ho!


PS the filmers have Madeleines bedroom door hinged on the wrong side.  Bad mistake IMO

Maybe you’re mistaken and it wasn’t your folder? Didn’t you say that your eyesight was bad?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?