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We have been asked by several members to review the truce with the blue forum so this is your opportunity to have your say.
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We have been asked by several members to review the truce with the blue forum so this is your opportunity to have your say.
I don't think it is acceptable in its current forum so I vote no. We should forumlate guidelines because the way it is at the moment everone is working to their own rules. 8((()*/
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I'm saying it's time to stop harping on about what the blue forum is doing, it has absolutely nothing to do with anything anymore. Since the truce has been called NOTHING has been said about ANY member on here by ANYONE over there and they have aired on the side of caution since the truce began yet everyone here is pushing it, pushing it and STILL debating what they're saying over there. At some point, there has to be a realisation that whats gone on has previously has stopped and it's wrong to resurect what happened before the truce.
We are two seperate boards and I have tried to put new threads up about different cases, nobody is interested it keeps coming back to the same 2 or 3 threads or people depending on how you want to view it and I feel I cannot add anything further to this forum which is a shame because I do love the people but I don't like the stuff/people being debated anymore, it's no fun and everytime I log on I don't know what I'm going to read-it's not what I joined for.
An interesting point of view Joanne. So lets see, in your opinion it is alright for Mike Tesko to post that Sheila Caffell shot her father and the other members of the family and then shot herself, made her way upstairs to the bedroom and shot herself again and we don't comment?? 8-)(--)
I agree to a certain extent that personal attacks got out of control and I agree that something had to be done but an across the board ban of discussing everything and everyone on the blue forum is just plain silly. There should be a set of guidelines or rules in place and that is the problem...there aren't any.
The Jeremy Bamber case accounts for most of the posts on this forum with just about every member having contributed to that debate in some way or other. To then say that the Jeremy Bamber forum is nothing to do with us is just not true.
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I'm saying it's time to stop harping on about what the blue forum is doing, it has absolutely nothing to do with anything anymore. Since the truce has been called NOTHING has been said about ANY member on here by ANYONE over there and they have aired on the side of caution since the truce began yet everyone here is pushing it, pushing it and STILL debating what they're saying over there. At some point, there has to be a realisation that whats gone on has previously has stopped and it's wrong to resurect what happened before the truce.
We are two seperate boards and I have tried to put new threads up about different cases, nobody is interested it keeps coming back to the same 2 or 3 threads or people depending on how you want to view it and I feel I cannot add anything further to this forum which is a shame because I do love the people but I don't like the stuff/people being debated anymore, it's no fun and everytime I log on I don't know what I'm going to read-it's not what I joined for.
An interesting point of view Joanne. So lets see, in your opinion it is alright for Mike Tesko to post that Sheila Caffell shot her father and the other members of the family and then shot herself, made her way upstairs to the bedroom and shot herself again and we don't comment?? 8-)(--)
I agree to a certain extent that personal attacks got out of control and I agree that something had to be done but an across the board ban of discussing everything and everyone on the blue forum is just plain silly. There should be a set of guidelines or rules in place and that is the problem...there aren't any.
The Jeremy Bamber case accounts for most of the posts on this forum with just about every member having contributed to that debate in some way or other. To then say that the Jeremy Bamber forum is nothing to do with us is just not true.
It is true that as long as there is a forum promoting the idea that Jeremy Bamber is innocent there will always be a strong response to them. Our job as Admin is, as we see it, to ensure that those responses are targeted, reasonable and not abusive.
It was recently suggested that we should remove threads relating to anonymous posters on the blue forum but why should we? If these individuals feel empowered sufficiently by their anonymity to make comments which in many cases are defamatory and downright libellous towards the Eaton and Boutflour family and others including our own members then they must receive a robust response. This applies across the board irrespective of who is being commented on.
The real problem, if some of us are to take our blinkers off for a moment, was that the blue forum permitted several individuals to run riot on their forum for weeks. We all know who they are and what their agenda was. These people are not interested in discussing potential miscarriages of justice, they are only concerned with causing disruption. The blue forums initial failure to control these individuals says much more about them than we could possibly do.
Time for change certainly but change for the better.
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Mike is entitled to his opinion just as much as the rest of us, I don't know what happened, I can only go on the info I have got. There are things we're not all going to agree on here.
Lets face it, Mike Tesko is a liar. END OFF!! His opinion counts for nothing, his facts are twisted, his fantasies rule the day.
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If we stopped commenting and criticising the Bamber forum they would get away with murder. 8(8-))
I say a review is badly needed and please stop this bickering folks. 8@??)(
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I voted no, because you cannot make a truce between nutcases. ?>)()<
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If we stopped commenting and criticising the Bamber forum they would get away with murder. 8(8-))
I say a review is badly needed and please stop this bickering folks. 8@??)(
Flippin heck isnt that why we all got together in the first place.
Lets get real for once guys.......we wouldn't even be here if it hadn't been for the blue forum. @)(++(*
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I voted no, because you cannot make a truce between nutcases. ?>)()<
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I didn't know about the Jeremy Bamber forum before I joined here and it's the bickering thats got us to this situation. This forum isn't the CCRC is it?
We have heard this before. You underestimate the power of the internet Jo.
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Roch wants to know if the poll is open and true. Members have the opportunity to add comment to the poll so those also will be taken into consideration.
Just to be clear Roch, the members aren't suggesting scrapping the truce, just clarifying its terms. 8(0(*
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Roch wants to know if the poll is open and true. Members have the opportunity to add comment to the poll so those also will be taken into consideration.
Just to be clear Roch, the members aren't suggesting scrapping the truce, just clarifying its terms. 8(0(*
Maybe they should have a poll as well? 8@??)(
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I'm saying it's time to stop harping on about what the blue forum is doing, it has absolutely nothing to do with anything anymore. Since the truce has been called NOTHING has been said about ANY member on here by ANYONE over there and they have aired on the side of caution since the truce began yet everyone here is pushing it, pushing it and STILL debating what they're saying over there. At some point, there has to be a realisation that whats gone on has previously has stopped and it's wrong to resurect what happened before the truce.
We are two seperate boards and I have tried to put new threads up about different cases, nobody is interested it keeps coming back to the same 2 or 3 threads or people depending on how you want to view it and I feel I cannot add anything further to this forum which is a shame because I do love the people but I don't like the stuff/people being debated anymore, it's no fun and everytime I log on I don't know what I'm going to read-it's not what I joined for.
An interesting point of view Joanne. So lets see, in your opinion it is alright for Mike Tesko to post that Sheila Caffell shot her father and the other members of the family and then shot herself, made her way upstairs to the bedroom and shot herself again and we don't comment?? 8-)(--)
I agree to a certain extent that personal attacks got out of control and I agree that something had to be done but an across the board ban of discussing everything and everyone on the blue forum is just plain silly. There should be a set of guidelines or rules in place and that is the problem...there aren't any.
The Jeremy Bamber case accounts for most of the posts on this forum with just about every member having contributed to that debate in some way or other. To then say that the Jeremy Bamber forum is nothing to do with us is just not true.
It is true that as long as there is a forum promoting the idea that Jeremy Bamber is innocent there will always be a strong response to them. Our job as Admin is, as we see it, to ensure that those responses are targeted, reasonable and not abusive.
It was recently suggested that we should remove threads relating to anonymous posters on the blue forum but why should we? If these individuals feel empowered sufficiently by their anonymity to make comments which in many cases are defamatory and downright libellous towards the Eaton and Boutflour family and others including our own members then they must receive a robust response. This applies across the board irrespective of who is being commented on.
The real problem, if some of us are to take our blinkers off for a moment, was that the blue forum permitted several individuals to run riot on their forum for weeks. We all know who they are and what their agenda was. These people are not interested in discussing potential miscarriages of justice, they are only concerned with causing disruption. The blue forums initial failure to control these individuals says much more about them than we could possibly do.
Time for change certainly but change for the better.
Good post. The Jeremy Bamber forum has crossed the line on some many counts both legally and morally that I wouldn't know where to begin. I was told some time ago that their activities were the subject of some scrutiny and rightly so. The recent events with the press and the internet have showed that there are consequences to defaming people, a lesson that some of their members will surely learn in the fullness of time. ?{)(**
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Constructive criticism of those on the blue forum will continue and to that end I would hope to see guest posting brought back at the earliest opportunity.
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
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Constructive criticism of those on the blue forum will continue and to that end I would hope to see guest posting brought back at the earliest opportunity.
Then I'm no longer willing to be part of this on both counts. I've had enough, I think it's no longer practical to be a member of both forums and I'd prefer to be on the blue forum.
Obviously...you want to run with the liars.
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Constructive criticism of those on the blue forum will continue and to that end I would hope to see guest posting brought back at the earliest opportunity.
Then I'm no longer willing to be part of this on both counts. I've had enough, I think it's no longer practical to be a member of both forums and I'd prefer to be on the blue forum.
Obviously...you want to run with the liars.
I think people want to stop prevaricating, this forum will not be used by them as an escape from the blue forum. This forum was set up primarily to dispute the rubbish being posted over there and will continue to do so. Members are either with us or against us, there can be no middle ground.
From now on any member leaving to join the blue forum will be barred permanently. Actions have consequences!
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Constructive criticism of those on the blue forum will continue and to that end I would hope to see guest posting brought back at the earliest opportunity.
Then I'm no longer willing to be part of this on both counts. I've had enough, I think it's no longer practical to be a member of both forums and I'd prefer to be on the blue forum.
Obviously...you want to run with the liars.
I think people want to stop prevaricating, this forum will not be used by them as an escape from the blue forum. This forum was set up primarily to dispute the rubbish being posted over there and will continue to do so. Members are either with us or against us, there can be no middle ground.
From now on any member leaving to join the blue forum will be barred permanently. Actions have consequences!
And about time to. All this pussy footing around is doing my head in. 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(
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I dont post very often but even i can see where this is leading and it just was so predictable. Some people never learn so good luck to them as they will need it. @)(++(* @)(++(*
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I dont post very often but even i can see where this is leading and it just was so predictable. Some people never learn so good luck to them as they will need it. @)(++(* @)(++(*
Many like myself have seen this all before so in truth this is probably a good time to get rid of the sheep.
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We should stop the personal attacks on members of the blue forum.
It isnt nice that members here have had their info sent out in emails, had their home and business numbers rung, pictures of their kids posted etc, people might feel diffrently if they had.
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We should stop the personal attacks on members of the blue forum.
It isnt nice that members here have had their info sent out in emails, had their home and business numbers rung, pictures of their kids posted etc, people might feel diffrently if they had.
So its ok for them to do all that and not be shown up for it?
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We should stop the personal attacks on members of the blue forum.
It isnt nice that members here have had their info sent out in emails, had their home and business numbers rung, pictures of their kids posted etc, people might feel diffrently if they had.
Who is being attacked exactly??? Didn't we put an end to that nonesense.... 8((()*/
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We should stop the personal attacks on members of the blue forum.
It isnt nice that members here have had their info sent out in emails, had their home and business numbers rung, pictures of their kids posted etc, people might feel diffrently if they had.
Who is being attacked exactly??? Didn't we put an end to that nonsense.... 8((()*/
I thought we had Jerry but obviously it isn't enough for some. Personally I think we have gone too far and it is time to redress the situation. The outcome of this poll will see changes in one form or another that's for sure.
Its as simple as this really. If members want to stand up for truth and justice they are very welcome here. If on the other hand they want to pander to those who would promote lies and falsehoods, defame and libel then they know what to do.
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We should stop the personal attacks on members of the blue forum.
It isnt nice that members here have had their info sent out in emails, had their home and business numbers rung, pictures of their kids posted etc, people might feel diffrently if they had.
Who is being attacked exactly??? Didn't we put an end to that nonsense.... 8((()*/
I thought we had Jerry but obviously it isn't enough for some. Personally I think we have gone too far and it is time to redress the situation. The outcome of this poll will see changes in one form or another that's for sure.
Its as simple as this really. If members want to stand up for truth and justice they are very welcome here. If on the other hand they want to pander to those who would promote lies and falsehoods, defame and libel then they know what to do.
Well said John 8@??)(
Some have short memories @)(++(*
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What im saying is this, if some members had had their personal sent in emails, posted on forums etc, they would feel differently, until then they wont see where im coming from.
Why dont we just do this properly? Put up a poll and see which mod you want booting, FFS.
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Personal attacks are not acceptable under any circumstances, that is sacrosanct but genuine criticism is to be applauded where it is properly targeted. The fantasy's and the speculation coming out of the blue forum make that job easy.
I can assure you Andrea I know very well what it is like to have lies posted here there and everywhere about me but I also accept that there have to be guidelines if any agreement with the blue forum is to survive.
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Personal attacks are not acceptable under any circumstances, that is sacrosanct but genuine criticism is to be applauded where it is properly targeted. The fantasy's and the speculation coming out of the blue forum make that job easy.
I can assure you Andrea I know very well what it is like to have lies posted here there and everywhere about me but I also accept that there have to be guidelines if any agreement with the blue forum is to survive.
And yet that forum allowed those good folks to remain without any sanction. Says it all to me like 8((()*/
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Personal attacks are not acceptable under any circumstances, that is sacrosanct but genuine criticism is to be applauded where it is properly targeted. The fantasy's and the speculation coming out of the blue forum make that job easy.
I can assure you Andrea I know very well what it is like to have lies posted here there and everywhere about me but I also accept that there have to be guidelines if any agreement with the blue forum is to survive.
And yet that forum allowed those good folks to remain without any sanction. Says it all to me like 8((()*/
Not only were they allowed to remain, given immunity by the owner but they were also allowed to open new accounts and spread their malicious abuse by that means. Totally unacceptable conduct.
This forum will continue regardless but the route we take is entirely up to the members.
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
I would favour avoiding personal attacks on blue forum members but that fair comment on some of their specific posts, eg Teskowski's wild theories and Lookout's persistent defamation of Sheila , should be acceptable. I also strongly feel that the agreement should evolve so that unfounded defamation of individual family members, alive and dead, Julie Mugford , various police officers etc by posters on the blue forum should cease . They should stick to objective evidence to support their position that Bamber is not guilty and not personal vilification of individuals who are largely not in a positition to defend themselves on the internet.
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
I would favour avoiding personal attacks on blue forum members but that fair comment on some of their specific posts, eg Teskowski's wild theories and Lookout's persistent defamation of Sheila , should be acceptable. I also strongly feel that the agreement should evolve so that unfounded defamation of individual family members, alive and dead, Julie Mugford , various police officers etc by posters on the blue forum should cease . They should stick to objective evidence to support their position that Bamber is not guilty and not personal vilification of individuals who are largely not in a position to defend themselves on the internet.
Good post Dillon. I think we should be able to formulate some guidelines around this. 8((()*/
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I don't see the problem. Of course utter rubbish and lies posted on the Blue Forum will be challenged and exposed. Some of the rubbish posted about Sheila is deplorable. (Z) and the phantom photo/itemised phone bills are just lies as far as I am concerned and I will always say so!
No problem.
But if we return to publishing personal details and the old threads go back up then so be it ... I will just leave both forums to it!
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They want to be able to make up any pish they like about the family, police officers, forensic scientists, pathologists, the CCRC and others and be able to get away with it as if it were fact. Well I for one won't be letting them do so no matter what name they want to hide under. IMO anonymous doesn't mean untouchable.
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They want to be able to make up any pish they like about the family, police officers, forensic scientists, pathologists, the CCRC and others and be able to get away with it as if it were fact. Well I for one won't be letting them do so no matter what name they want to hide under. IMO anonymous doesn't mean untouchable.
Of course you should expose that stuff!
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They want to be able to make up any pish they like about the family, police officers, forensic scientists, pathologists, the CCRC and others and be able to get away with it as if it were fact. Well I for one won't be letting them do so no matter what name they want to hide under. IMO anonymous doesn't mean untouchable.
Of course you should expose that stuff!
Rightly so, I agree about the personal details thingy though and will make that clear through our new guidelines.
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I have added another option to the poll which admin started this morning.
Please note: Members can change their vote at any time.
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
Lookout is just a name AA unless I am missing something here?? 8-)(--)
Don't tell me s(he) is really Mr(s) Lookout. @)(++(*
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
Lookout is just a name AA unless I am missing something here?? 8-)(--)
Don't tell me s(he) is really Mr(s) Lookout. @)(++(*
Lookout can change their name any time they like and that would be an end of it, you can't do that with a real name can you J ?
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
Lookout is just a name AA unless I am missing something here?? 8-)(--)
Don't tell me s(he) is really Mr(s) Lookout. @)(++(*
A few of us on here know Lookout's identity, because of some posts a while ago on the blue forum.
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I like the third option, very sensible given everones views. 8((()*/ 8((()*/
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
Lookout is just a name AA unless I am missing something here?? 8-)(--)
Don't tell me s(he) is really Mr(s) Lookout. @)(++(*
A few of us on here know Lookout's identity, because of some posts a while ago on the blue forum.
Best keep it quiet then 8(0(*
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To NOT personally attack any individuals from the blue forum - yes, I am in favour of that.
One can debate what an individual has posted, but to post personal remarks about that persons, beliefs or perception in a critical and abusive way is wrong.
The still do not like the thread being up about Lookout - it is most personal and is bound to cause upset - this is what I disagree with.
Lookout is just a name AA unless I am missing something here?? 8-)(--)
Don't tell me s(he) is really Mr(s) Lookout. @)(++(*
A few of us on here know Lookout's identity, because of some posts a while ago on the blue forum.
Best keep it quiet then 8(0(*
Absolutely, in the spirit of the truce!! But I wish I had the option to argue against some of their more strongly-worded views.
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Absolutely, in the spirit of the truce!! But I wish I had the option to argue against some of their more strongly-worded views.
There is nothing stopping you Shona, just start a new thread where necessary. This applies to every member, if you wish to discuss any topic just start a new thread where appropriate.
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I want to apologise for being a bit narky earlier today, had a bit of trouble at work and had a bad start to the day today. Sorry Joanne for being a bit sharp. (http://i.imgur.com/Ejuhk.gif) 8()-000(
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Constructive criticism of those on the blue forum will continue and to that end I would hope to see guest posting brought back at the earliest opportunity.
Then I'm no longer willing to be part of this on both counts. I've had enough, I think it's no longer practical to be a member of both forums and I'd prefer to be on the blue forum.
Obviously...you want to run with the liars.
I think people want to stop prevaricating, this forum will not be used by them as an escape from the blue forum. This forum was set up primarily to dispute the rubbish being posted over there and will continue to do so. Members are either with us or against us, there can be no middle ground.
From now on any member leaving to join the blue forum will be barred permanently. Actions have consequences!
Do you mean deleting their account on here and posting on blue, they will be banned? Or do you mean anyone who posts on blue will be banned even if they have an account on here? Just want this clearing up.
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Shona you can still expose or challenge anything you like on the Blue Forum or anywhere else!
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Shona you can still expose or challenge anything you like on the Blue Forum or anywhere else!
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You reckon??!! I don't know how this truce thing works, we seem to have lost Jo, we can't name anyone, I'm not sure what we can challenge. We'll end up like Compo and Clegg, rolling down a hill in a bath. I don't want to insult anyone, but I'm not good with bullshit.
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Shona you can still expose or challenge anything you like on the Blue Forum or anywhere else!
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I'm not sure that we can. Most of us on this forum are reprobates banned from the blue. We're just shouting at ourselves. We all know that Sheila was murdered, it's so bloody obvious, but we aren't allowed to say.
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Shona you can still expose or challenge anything you like on the Blue Forum or anywhere else!
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I'm not sure that we can. Most of us on this forum are reprobates banned from the blue. We're just shouting at ourselves. We all know that Sheila was murdered, it's so bloody obvious, but we aren't allowed to say.
Where is the blood spatter on Sheila's nightie, legs and arms, after the close contact shots to the boys and June? How did she carry the bullets, when she needed to reload?
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Constructive criticism of those on the blue forum will continue and to that end I would hope to see guest posting brought back at the earliest opportunity.
Then I'm no longer willing to be part of this on both counts. I've had enough, I think it's no longer practical to be a member of both forums and I'd prefer to be on the blue forum.
Obviously...you want to run with the liars.
I think people want to stop prevaricating, this forum will not be used by them as an escape from the blue forum. This forum was set up primarily to dispute the rubbish being posted over there and will continue to do so. Members are either with us or against us, there can be no middle ground.
From now on any member leaving to join the blue forum will be barred permanently. Actions have consequences!
Do you mean deleting their account on here and posting on blue, they will be banned? Or do you mean anyone who posts on blue will be banned even if they have an account on here? Just want this clearing up.
Just ignore that comment, it was made in haste. We will see if we can formulate some guidelines which we can all agree with because that to me is the way forward. We have to know the boundaries.
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I think a lot of the comments against blue forum members were unnecessarily personal in their nature. We can pick holes in their arguments without getting personal and just because we disagree with their opinions on the Bamber murders it doesn't automatically make them idiotic or moronic. Though frankly some of them do tend to be.
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I think a lot of the comments against blue forum members were unnecessarily personal in their nature. We can pick holes in their arguments without getting personal and just because we disagree with their opinions on the Bamber murders it doesn't automatically make them idiotic or moronic. Though frankly some of them do tend to be.
Many of us have suffered abuse while we were members of the blue forum which was later reflected in our posts when the new forums were created. When the old forum was lost many of us were shocked and appalled and sought revenge in the only way we knew and that was through our posts. We have got over that fiasco so we should be big enough to move on and take the lead as we did with the truce agreement.
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The problem, as i see it, and this is only MY OPINION, is this. When anti's posted on the blue forum Jacke Preece often got offended even though the anti's were putting their point across, arguments got heated on both sides. But it came to the point where we had to be careful what we said because jackie kicked up a fuss and anti's got banned, so in the end, IMO jackie could say whatever she liked and [ censored word] got booted. Then pictures of John on toilet seats etc were posted by Jackie, she started this forum war, i have always said that, and i still stick too it.
when the previous forum was set up, for somewhere for [ censored word] to have a voice it then turned into what we had a couple of weeks back, tit for tat bickering, no need for any of it really, but as i said thats just my opinion.
I still say jackie brought the abuse on herself, there was no need for it to become as nasty as it did, but there you go.
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What im saying is [ censored word] needed a place to voice their opinions, we couldnt do that on blue without being attacked, or banned.
people tend to get their own back when given the chance.
BUT, we have stopped the bickering and Preece is rightly banned from both forum's. Things will now hopefully settle down, i would welcome members of blue on here if they want to debate. Im sure many posters here would do too.
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What im saying is [ censored word] needed a place to voice their opinions, we couldnt do that on blue without being attacked, or banned.
people tend to get their own back when given the chance.
BUT, we have stopped the bickering and Preece is rightly banned from both forum's. Things will now hopefully settle down, i would welcome members of blue on here if they want to debate. Im sure many posters here would do too.
I agree with your analysis of what went on Andrea and there is no doubt that Jackie Preece was out to smear anyone who dared speak out against Jeremy. And the when he turned on her she couldn't wait to post his letters. She tried the same old trick on Twitter but was effectively barricaded into protecting her account. She wouldn't have been able to post those abusive pictures if there had been proper moderation on the blue forum but Tesko et all loved it and turned a blind eye. They did the same when she threaten ProBoards that she would nobble their advertisers if they didn't shut the forum down and she boasted all this on the blue forum while Tesko and the then mods lapped it up. They didn't think that we would come back and twice as strong and that took them by surprise. Then when Hall started her rein of abuse a few weeks ago the blue forum were clearly very content to sit back again and do nothing. In the end I approached Roch to do something because some of the material Hall was posting breached a Court Order. The material was removed immediately and as an acknowledgement of this cooperation the Roch threads on here were archived. I think it was Joanne who took up the issue after that and between her and Patti a truce of sorts was achieved even though Hall tried to scupper it in her usual adorable way. So that is where we are now and it seems to work but will need a bit of tweaking here and there.
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What im saying is [ censored word] needed a place to voice their opinions, we couldnt do that on blue without being attacked, or banned.
people tend to get their own back when given the chance.
BUT, we have stopped the bickering and Preece is rightly banned from both forum's. Things will now hopefully settle down, i would welcome members of blue on here if they want to debate. Im sure many posters here would do too.
Welcome them by all means..., but I don't think you'll have many takers Andrea. People over there are too set in their views to change, and when they do make the jump like Patti they run back scared, because nearly all regular posters here know that the case is dead in the water and won't take any bull.
It would be pointless say, for [ censored word] like vidvic to come over because he knows the score, tells it like it is and is doing a great job there by constantly prodding at agent 006⅞, even though it goes in one ear and straight out the other.
I've never been a member over there, have no desire to be, and I came late to this forum, although I grew up with the case and have taken a passing interest over the years, through newspaper articles etc. My interest was rekindled when I found this and the previous sabotaged forum where all the many case documents, photos, etc., were thankfully provided by John/Admin and which are not accessible otherwise, unless your a blue forum member.
There are a lot of members here, but few regular posters. Whenever I've glanced at the "what people are viewing" page most of the guests are looking at the Kevin Craigie threads. Bamber is old news. And really, people (at present anyway) haven't got the time, inclination or interest to discuss other cases in depth here.
Jo was right in one sense, in that whatever she posted was just acknowledged and glossed over, simply because there was too much info to take in, and a lot of us have lives elsewhere on the internet or in the real world to be getting on with.
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Good points guys. The other factor worth mentioning was that many who came across to post here whilst maintaining their membership on the blue forum were intimidated to such an extent that they left. This even happened to Roch who is now a Global Moderator on the blue forum. I have heard many others complain of how they were given a hard time for simply registering here. I can tell you that it reached the point where anyone coming across had to do so anonymously and keep quiet about it.
Graham Belton was the worst offender if I remember correctly but he got his just desserts in the end and cannot even post in his own name any more. A tad annoying that Grahame...eh?
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Good points guys. The other factor worth mentioning was that many who came across to post here whilst maintaining their membership on the blue forum were intimidated to such an extent that they left. This even happened to Roch who is now a Global Moderator on the blue forum. I have heard many others complain of how they were given a hard time for simply registering here. I can tell you that it reached the point where anyone coming across had to do so anonymously and keep quiet about it.
Graham Belton was the worst offender if I remember correctly but he got his just desserts in the end and cannot even post in his own name any more. A tad annoying that Grahame...eh?
Good evening. I observe the truce is holding albeit with a few teething problems. I do hope it prevails in the long term. There should be guidelines but kept as simple as possible.
Keep up the good work.
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Andy has hit the nail on the head ... without the Spinsters (Hall and Preece) the conditions we now call a truce are actually just normal debating! I have just read Tesko's latest 'informant with helicopters" utter tosh and laughed my head off!!! Mike is lying through his teeth and everyone knows it including Bamber ... the 'official' Bamber site goes out of it's way to stress they are NOT accusing the police of shooting Sheila the second time. That must be a reaction to Tesko's fantasy theories!
See I have accused Tesko of lying because I am sure he is ... no need for home addresses or any other personal abuse! Without Preece followed by Hall ..... stalking just isn't a problem!
So let's just carry on exposing the Bamberettes without digging into their personal lives ... some of them are even good people just misguided and dare I say just plain wrong! Patti for example is well liked on both sides of the divide! Roch isn't a bad lad even though his attempts to challenge Mike fall into the very weak category!
The only guildlines we need is NO PERSONAL STALKING with a caveat perhaps we should be less hostile than previously! Rather than call Mertol mental for example, we should just say he is 'challenged'!
What we actually need is a damn good bonifide Miscarriage Of Justice case to support! Simon Hall was a possibility but his mental wife scuppered that!
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A reminder to anyone who hasn't yet voted in the two polls that they finish tomorrow. You can also change your vote at any time. ?>)()<
Poll - Guest posting (http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=796.0)
Poll - Should we continue the truce? (http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=795.0)
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For the sake of forum harmony a few additional threads have been archived.
Happy now ngb1066? 8((()*/
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For the sake of forum harmony a few additional threads have been archived.
Happy now ngb1066? 8((()*/
Well done John. 8@??)( 8@??)(
All that needs to be done now is to ban Frizzbomb for life like Miss P. on both forums and I see no possible threat to common decency becoming the norm. What do you say NGB?
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Are we staying at the mercy of the blue mods forever now then?
I assumed it was just a bit of a ruse, but if it's permanent then I think I'll call it a day.
Not really sure what this forum is for if its just a puppet of Tesko's mods.
I thought it was all about the freedom of expression that was denied on blue?
8(8-))
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Are we staying at the mercy of the blue mods forever now then?
I assumed it was just a bit of a ruse, but if it's permanent then I think I'll call it a day.
Not really sure what this forum is for if its just a puppet of Tesko's mods.
I thought it was all about the freedom of expression that was denied on blue?
8(8-))
Tis only a matter of time before it gets back to normal GG. Truces never last imo. 8((()*/
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Are we staying at the mercy of the blue mods forever now then?
I assumed it was just a bit of a ruse, but if it's permanent then I think I'll call it a day.
Not really sure what this forum is for if its just a puppet of Tesko's mods.
I thought it was all about the freedom of expression that was denied on blue?
8(8-))
Tis only a matter of time before it gets back to normal GG. Truces never last imo. 8((()*/
I'm surprised it lasted this long. Ngb appears to be really desperate to keep his business dealings out of sight and secret by all accounts...
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Are we staying at the mercy of the blue mods forever now then?
I assumed it was just a bit of a ruse, but if it's permanent then I think I'll call it a day.
Not really sure what this forum is for if its just a puppet of Tesko's mods.
I thought it was all about the freedom of expression that was denied on blue?
8(8-))
Not fair GG. You can say what you like about anyone, oppose any view you wish; we are just not allowing the posting of personal details. I for one am not a puppet to anyone, I just don't want mine or anyone else's personal details posted all over the internet.
You seem once again to be happy to have other members home, business and personal details posted but just as long as it's not yours! I have long thought you post here like a certain member of the Blue forum ... an excellent poster I might add ..... but (if you are that member) I never see you attacking the Bamberettes like you seem to want them attacked here!
Excuse me if I am mistaken. If I am right I don't think that's playing fair ... Do you?
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I just don't want anymore threads, website et al springing up about me. Not that there's anything exciting to actually spout about me anyway. Nor do I want to read them about other people regardless of whether it's warrented or not. Thats when it becomes open season and I don't really want to go back to that.
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And I don't want pictures of my kid posted on the internet.
I don't want threats.
I don't want my work called.
I don't want to be stalked in topic after topic.
The blue forum never truly protected me on any of those things, I complained about the trolling numerous times. This truce has at least stopped it (mostly).
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
Jeez. Would you like half dibs on an Ark? I'm almost completely under water now, and the gales will uproot all the trees. Do you remember that mad storm we had, a few months ago, when everything went dark? It's never right. I think I've found a gill. 8(8-))
And yes, I do think she's infatuated with you. If you want to test that out, reintroduce guest posting for half an hour.
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
Jeez. Would you like half dibs on an Ark? I'm almost completely under water now, and the gales will uproot all the trees. Do you remember that mad storm we had, a few months ago, when everything went dark? It's never right. I think I've found a gill. 8(8-))
And yes, I do think she's infatuated with you. If you want to test that out, reintroduce guest posting for half an hour.
Did we ever get a result on this poll?
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
Jeez. Would you like half dibs on an Ark? I'm almost completely under water now, and the gales will uproot all the trees. Do you remember that mad storm we had, a few months ago, when everything went dark? It's never right. I think I've found a gill. 8(8-))
And yes, I do think she's infatuated with you. If you want to test that out, reintroduce guest posting for half an hour.
Did we ever get a result on this poll?
We shouldn't just mindlessly insult people but, as GG pointed out, this forum is a place to answer some of the gobsmacking crap that is posted elsewhere. I noticed that a poster on the blue tonight, "Hugo", was deleted as soon as he posted. But Mrs H can post at will, and loyalty to mods and long time members can basically go and screw itself. No freedom of speech, when a certain person needs to cover his ar$e.
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
Jeez. Would you like half dibs on an Ark? I'm almost completely under water now, and the gales will uproot all the trees. Do you remember that mad storm we had, a few months ago, when everything went dark? It's never right. I think I've found a gill. 8(8-))
And yes, I do think she's infatuated with you. If you want to test that out, reintroduce guest posting for half an hour.
Throwing down here, has been for hours.
Wish it would snow instead.
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
Jeez. Would you like half dibs on an Ark? I'm almost completely under water now, and the gales will uproot all the trees. Do you remember that mad storm we had, a few months ago, when everything went dark? It's never right. I think I've found a gill. 8(8-))
And yes, I do think she's infatuated with you. If you want to test that out, reintroduce guest posting for half an hour.
Throwing down here, has been for hours.
Wish it would snow instead.
@)(++(*
But that's just cold rain!! I'd kill for a gas mask, I've got 5 wet pugs sitting under the table. I'm slipping into a coma....
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Scarlet wont go out in the rain, she pokes her head out of the door and turns back in again, she's asleep now!
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Who's opening up?
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Scarlet wont go out in the rain, she pokes her head out of the door and turns back in again, she's asleep now!
I've been begging my youngest not to leave home, stay and save some money...blah blah... but when she gets up in the morning and trips over plop she says.."oh yes, that's what keeps me here, bloody turds all over the place." Pugs won't poo in the rain.
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Who's opening up?
Lugg. He's got a reet thirst on him.
I met Britt Ekland today. She looked like an angry guppy.
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Is she a stuck in a wind tunnel type?
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There must be a reason why NGB is quite willing to lose Patti by not banning Frizzbomb while she goes around nipping mods ankles and attacking anyone who says boo to her! Mad bint!
We have to give NGB and Roch credit though, they are not letting her stalk with personal details. The warped wasp has lost her sting .... Well done Blue mods!
8@??)(
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Is she a stuck in a wind tunnel type?
Face full of butt-fat. She's an angry woman. I tell you who looked good... The Hoff. 30 quid to meet him, and the queue went out of the door. Unfortunate encounter with Peter Withe (footballer? Not Sure.) As I walked past he said "I'd like to smash your back doors down."
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Is she a stuck in a wind tunnel type?
Face full of butt-fat. She's an angry woman. I tell you who looked good... The Hoff. 30 quid to meet him, and the queue went out of the door. Unfortunate encounter with Peter Withe (footballer? Not Sure.) As I walked past he said "I'd like to smash your back doors down."
30 quid to meet the Hoff? What a fooking rip off!
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There must be a reason why NGB is quite willing to lose Patti by not banning Frizzbomb while she goes around nipping mods ankles and attacking anyone who says boo to her! Mad bint!
We have to give NGB and Roch credit though, they are not letting her stalk with personal details. The warped wasp has lost her sting .... Well done Blue mods!
8@??)(
patti's back now, Tim.
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I think they do the paying, not the public @)(++(*
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What do were these sell bys at Shona? Hoff should be paying to meet you! I hope you didn't pay anything!
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Glad Patti's back ..... she is a good un!
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What do were these sell bys at Shona? Hoff should be paying to meet you! I hope you didn't pay anything!
I wouldnt pay to meet a "star" ever. I have paid to go into gigs and footy matches etc, but thats a different matter.
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There only ever were two individuals who did this sort of thing and we all know who they are. Neither of them should ever be allowed back on the forums in my opinion but ngb has consistently refused to ban one of them and allows her to spout her defamatory rubbish over on the blue forum.
I presume she'll be back soon, ranting and raving and abusing people in pm's. Did anyone see the disgustingly rude post she made to Cliff, that was allowed to stay up? Very poor show.
Never saw that Shona but seemingly Roch had to remove lots of posts she made about me yet again. She seems to be infatuated with me for some reason and is following me around like a puppy dog. @)(++(*
You got the driving rain and the gales yet?
Jeez. Would you like half dibs on an Ark? I'm almost completely under water now, and the gales will uproot all the trees. Do you remember that mad storm we had, a few months ago, when everything went dark? It's never right. I think I've found a gill. 8(8-))
And yes, I do think she's infatuated with you. If you want to test that out, reintroduce guest posting for half an hour.
We haven't had a drop of rain for two days and as calm as the waters around the Maria Celeste. It looks like the same for tomorrow but it can't last surely?? 8)-)))
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I hope you dry out Shona hun and not too much damage done ... at least the two mad spinsters remain dry, very dry! That's about the only advantage I can think of living in a high rise rabbit hutch!
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Pissed it down here ALL NIGHT. Miserable again today, let it snow i say!!
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I hope you dry out Shona hun and not too much damage done ... at least the two mad spinsters remain dry, very dry! That's about the only advantage I can think of living in a high rise rabbit hutch!
Thank you, Timbo. It's lovely and sunny here at the moment, but the water seems to be getting worse, it must be coming off the fields. What's it doing where you are?
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I hope you are all ok...that storm looks really nasty. I feel really sorry for anyone who has had storm or flood damage as it takes for ever to put it right. Unfortunately this is a sign of things to come as global warming accelerates and the ice at the poles melts.
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Pissed it down here ALL NIGHT. Miserable again today, let it snow i say!!
Nah! You can keep the snow, hate the stuff. @)(++(*
Been another dead calm day here with blue skies, I actually got into the garden yesterday and today and got the shrubs cut back for the winter. Amazing really!! ?{)(**
Hope your fields dry out soon Shona!
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I hope you dry out Shona hun and not too much damage done ... at least the two mad spinsters remain dry, very dry! That's about the only advantage I can think of living in a high rise rabbit hutch!
Thank you, Timbo. It's lovely and sunny here at the moment, but the water seems to be getting worse, it must be coming off the fields. What's it doing where you are?
No problems here Shona; just a bit muddy. There hasn't been much rain at all and anyway our village is up a hill so don't have your worries. Hope you're all dried up soon!
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looks like i missed the voting 8(8-))
theres only one problem with the 'blue' forum and at the moment im holding my tongue on the matter
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looks like i missed the voting 8(8-))
theres only one problem with the 'blue' forum and at the moment im holding my tongue on the matter
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a2Q5ECYqZg ?,,,,,?,,,,,?,,,,,
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Graham Belton was the worst offender if I remember correctly but he got his just desserts in the end and cannot even post in his own name any more. A tad annoying that Grahame...eh?
He’s still about
And still supporting killers