"................so she left a message on his answering machine............". Interesting. There's been a dispute -elsewhere- about the existence of such, supporters preferring to believe there wasn't one.
The answering machine argument has been done here on this thread too
How does it matter?
Yes, if he already had the AM prior to murdering his family, it could be queried why it didn’t kick in before he reached it when he claimed Nevill phoned him...but it’s all too late in the day now. The case is done and dusted (with/without queries the AM) so it makes no difference.
If it was proven JB had the machine BEFORE he killed everyone it would just reinforce his guilt. But he’d just say he hadn’t switched it on, so again, it’s all a pointless exercise.
Virginia Greaves certainly left a message on his AM at Goldhanger, she said so, and it’s in CAL’s book. But that may have been after the murders so doesn’t prove anything, except that he did have one at that time.
Was it Virginia who left the message on the answering machine or Angela it was after apparently Anji Bamber viewed as his girlfriend at the time?
And Bamber apparently asked Virginia to move in with him even though he knew she was getting married to someone else? ⬇️
And just because 2 days after the above he went to Angela Greaves flat in Kensington, made a pass at her and kissed her, discussed marriage with her and told her he was fed up with Julie (All supposedly whilst also dating and sleeping with her sister Virginia and had apparently asked Virginia to move in with him) doesn’t make him a murderer
Did Carol Ann Lee know Bamber’s ‘former girlfriend’ was 29/30 year old supposed personnel assistant Angela Greaves not 23 year old Virginia?
Who’s JM meant to be referring to here?
“Occasionally choking on her words, she told the court about the night at Caterham Road, when she had begged him to remain with her, and the angry confrontation at Sheila’s flat when she discovered that Jeremy had begun dating a former girlfriend,”
(Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from her book, ‘The Murders at White House Farm’)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA317&lpg=PA317&dq=the+sun+anji+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=h8PnNHTkTl&sig=ACfU3U1NpuMY9WW_GJ0UKEtiEAeZmVwONg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwics4rWi4LpAhWEoFwKHYIID8oQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20sun%20anji%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false
And how did Julie know ‘at once’ it was Virginia and not Angela ⬇️ ?
Not read or seen any w/s of what either sister said. Only CAL's interpretation of what occured...
'Brett called at the cafe to remind Jeremy that the antiques dealer was due, so they all returned to the flat.
While the dealer was looking through the items from the farm, the telephone rang.Jeremy answered, speaking ‘in a friendly manner’ to the caller.
‘Who is it?’ Julie asked, growing suspicious.
‘Virginia,’ he said.
Julie knew at once that he meant Virginia Greaves, and asked him to put the phone down.When he carried on talking, she cut the call herself.
They then began to argue and Jeremy admitted he was seeing Virginia.
When the telephone rang again and he answered it, Julie stormed through to Sheila’s bedroom.
‘I was so angry,’ she remembered. ‘I picked up a Chinese box of Jeremy’s and threw it against a mirror, which smashed.’
Still on the line, Virginia heard the splintering glass. ‘What’s that?’ she asked.
Jeremy replied, ‘Oh, Julie just smashing some plates up.’
There was another crash.
‘What’s that?’ asked Virginia again.
‘Julie’s just put her wrists through the window.’
Shocked, Virginia told him definitely, ‘I don’t want anything to do with that and I’ll speak to you some time.’
Was it Angela Greaves who had previously dated Mike Deckers? ⬇️
Journalist Roger Wilkes stated in his book ‘Blood Relations’
‘Marsden said that he had visited Jeremy at his cottage the previous Thursday night. Brett Collins had cooked them a chicken dinner and the three had then repaired to the Caribbean Cottage at Burnham for drinks. Jeremy had announced that he and Julie had split up the previous weekend. While he didn't give a specific reason, Marsden had the impression that Julie had disliked Brett Collins. In any case, Jeremy added, he now had a new girlfriend, Virginia Greaves, who used to go out with Mike Deckers of the Frog and Beans. Jeremy also told Charles Marsden that he and Brett were going to sell Bourtree Cottage and move to Sheila's flat in Maida Vale. Virginia would move in too, Jeremy added.
Who and what were Roger Wilkes sources for the above?
Didn’t Anji Greaves claim Bamber had proposed to her? Why then is Bamber claiming to Charles Marsden Virginia (Anji’s sister) would be moving in with his and Brett Collins?
