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Offline Nicholas

Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« on: February 26, 2018, 02:56:29 PM »
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/26/police-face-disciplinary-panel-over-claim-they-spied-on-janet-alder-sister-of-man-who-died-in-custody

Will officer one and officer two continue to be held to account for what their defence say was them 'following orders' or will the CPS eventually decide to change their original decision with regards all the other officers involved?

What about the other 12? https://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/nov/26/janet-alder-surveillance-sister-of-former-paratrooper-cps

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 03:06:10 PM »
And isn't the label "campaigner" misleading? What about Janet Alder "victim of the state?" https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/officers-accused-of-spying-on-campaigner-would-have-been-following-orders-36644491.html

Ms Alder was simply attempting to get justice for her brother. The CCTV in Christopher's case shows the police watching on as her brother died. It doesn't get more clear cut than that. The CCTV clearly shows the officers involved did nothing to prevent his death or indeed dignity.

Why then spy on Janet Alder in the first place? It's alleged the spying commenced during her brothers inquest..
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Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 03:14:34 PM »
She told Socialist Worker, “I have been terrorised from the start, because I have been looking for the truth.”

She is angry that despite evidence of the police spying on her—a bereaved family member—no-one will face charges.

Evidence shows that up to 14 officers followed her and her legal team in 2000 during a six-week inquest into her brother’s death.

They also spied on the small group of the family’s supporters who protested outside the inquest at Hull Crown Court.

“They are covering up for the perpetrators.

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/41824/Cops+wont+be+prosecuted+for+spying+on+Janet+Alder
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 03:23:38 PM »
And isn't the label "campaigner" misleading? What about Janet Alder "victim of the state?" https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/officers-accused-of-spying-on-campaigner-would-have-been-following-orders-36644491.html

Ms Alder was simply attempting to get justice for her brother. The CCTV in Christopher's case shows the police watching on as her brother died. It doesn't get more clear cut than that. The CCTV clearly shows the officers involved did nothing to prevent his death or indeed dignity.

Why then spy on Janet Alder in the first place? It's alleged the spying commenced during her brothers inquest..

and according to the press release Janet Alders barrister was also spied on http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5435975/Officers-accused-spying-campaigner-following-orders.html

The officers facing disciplinary actions – referred to as Officer One and Officer Two – are accused of carrying out surveillance on July 28 2000 “without appropriate authorisation and justification” when they followed Ms Alder and her barrister, Leslie Thomas QC, and listened to their conversations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-43199911

Jason Pitter QC, representing officer one, said he would not try to justify the surveillance of Ms Alder and her lawyer
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Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 04:26:08 PM »
"New and disturbing evidence of systematic and nationwide attempts by police to smear anti-racism campaigners surfaced last night, as the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) mounted an investigation into the “improper surveillance” of the grieving sister of a black paratrooper who died a slow and agonising death in custody.

A letter to Janet Alder, seen by The Independent, reveals that Humberside Police has discovered evidence that both she and a lawyer who helped prove the force’s shocking failure to prevent her brother’s death in April 1998 were illegally monitored by officers at the time of his inquest in 2000, which returned a verdict of unlawful killing. The Independent can also reveal that the former West Yorkshire Police Chief Constable, Sir Norman Bettison, commissioned a six-page report into Mohammed Amran, a Bradford race relations worker, before he testified to the Macpherson inquiry into the death of the black teenager Stephen Lawrence in 1998.

That evidence led the IPCC to announce yesterday that it will launch an investigation to examine whether Sir Norman was “motivated or influenced by racial discrimination”. Mr Amran’s case was first revealed by this newspaper three weeks ago

The IPCC has told Ms Alder that she appeared to be “the subject of improper surveillance during the course of the inquest following the tragic death of your brother” and that the organisation “has determined that an independent investigation should be carried out to establish what surveillance took place and the reasons for it.”

The development is potentially deeply damaging for Humberside Police, 15 years after Christopher Alder’s death – face down, in handcuffs, his trousers down around his thighs, on a Hull police station floor – became one of the most controversial in police custody. CCTV footage showed the father of two children gasping for air as officers chatted and joked around him.

His sister’s indignation initially stemmed from the fact that it took the force 14 days to inform her of his death. She felt that police were monitoring her as soon as she began asking probing questions – concerns which led her local Burnley Labour MP Peter Pike to register concerns about surveillance with the former Police Complaints Authority, a predecessor to the IPCC.

“I had plain clothes officers following me around shops and on one occasion I left out of the back door of a solicitors’ office because I thought I was being followed,” Ms Alder said yesterday. “I also had mail that went missing. They characterised me as being paranoid and over-dramatising things. This evidence only confirms what I always believed. I want to know why they were doing it and on whose authority.”

The name of the lawyer whom the force also subjected to surveillance is known to The Independent, but he does not want his identity to be revealed while he and his advisers seek a response to the force’s evidence. The IPCC will also investigate whether any other individuals were spied upon by the force at the time of Mr Alder’s inquest.

Ms Alder also has documentary evidence which suggests that police attempted to secure sensitive personal documents about her, during her long campaign, supported by the Lawrence family, to prove that her brother’s death was avoidable and to persuade the Crown Prosecution Service to bring manslaughter charges against five police officers.

Humberside Police attempted to secure social services documents which related to the period during which she and her brother were in care, as children. This evidence was not used during the inquest or the manslaughter trial, which collapsed in 2002 when a judge ruled there was no evidence to convict.

“The police wanted to go into our family history,” Ms Alder said. “They were told that kind of information is only appropriate if there is a threat to the country or if there is a criminal inquiry.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/anti-racism-smear-scandal-police-targeted-the-sister-of-black-paratrooper-who-died-in-custody-8734485.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 05:21:45 PM »
and according to the press release Janet Alders barrister was also spied on http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5435975/Officers-accused-spying-campaigner-following-orders.html

The officers facing disciplinary actions – referred to as Officer One and Officer Two – are accused of carrying out surveillance on July 28 2000 “without appropriate authorisation and justification” when they followed Ms Alder and her barrister, Leslie Thomas QC, and listened to their conversations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-43199911

Jason Pitter QC, representing officer one, said he would not try to justify the surveillance of Ms Alder and her lawyer

"Retired chief superintendent Paul Cheeseman told the hearing he did not know who authorised the surveillance of Ms Alder, despite being the Silver Commander for the operation to police the Christopher Alder inquest in 2000. Mr Cheeseman said there was no cover-up over the surveillance of Ms Alder as the officers reported it at the time. At the end of his evidence, Mr Green said to him: “Somebody, somewhere in Humberside Police, retired or still serving, the authorising officer, is squirming silently, hoping their identity is not revealed.” Speaking outside the hearing Ms Alder, 56, from Leeds, said: “My concern is not the surveillance team, it’s who further up ordered it. It’s not these two.

Read more at: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/yorkshire-officers-accused-of-spying-on-sister-of-dead-man-were-ordered-from-above-hearing-told-1-9037150
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Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 05:43:27 PM »
"Retired chief superintendent Paul Cheeseman told the hearing he did not know who authorised the surveillance of Ms Alder, despite being the Silver Commander for the operation to police the Christopher Alder inquest in 2000. Mr Cheeseman said there was no cover-up over the surveillance of Ms Alder as the officers reported it at the time. At the end of his evidence, Mr Green said to him: “Somebody, somewhere in Humberside Police, retired or still serving, the authorising officer, is squirming silently, hoping their identity is not revealed.” Speaking outside the hearing Ms Alder, 56, from Leeds, said: “My concern is not the surveillance team, it’s who further up ordered it. It’s not these two.

Read more at: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/yorkshire-officers-accused-of-spying-on-sister-of-dead-man-were-ordered-from-above-hearing-told-1-9037150

Two police officers accused of spying on a woman campaigning about the death in custody of her brother would have been acting on orders from higher-ranking officers, their lawyers have told a hearing.

The two officers have not been named and appeared behind screens at a Humberside Police misconduct hearing in Goole, East Yorkshire, on Monday.

They are accused of gross misconduct over the unauthorised surveillance of Janet Alder more than 17 years ago, outside the inquest at Hull Combined Court into her brother Christopher’s death.


Mr Alder, 37, choked to death while handcuffed and lying on the floor of a police station in Hull in 1998.

Monday’s hearing at the old Goole Magistrates’ Court heard how a police surveillance team was deployed outside the inquest in July 2000 with orders relating to possible public order situations.

Christopher Alder choked to death while handcuffed and lying on the floor of a police station in Hull in 1998 (Handout/PA)Christopher Alder choked to death while handcuffed and lying on the floor of a police station in Hull in 1998 (Handout/PA)
The officers facing disciplinary actions – referred to as Officer One and Officer Two – are accused of carrying out surveillance on July 28 2000 “without appropriate authorisation and justification” when they followed Ms Alder and her barrister, Leslie Thomas QC, and listened to their conversations.

Summarising his client’s case, Jason Pitter QC, representing Officer One, said he will not be trying to justify the surveillance of Ms Alder and her lawyer.

He said the officer does not have full recollection of the events of 2000 but said he knows through his “ordinary working practices” he would only have acted on instructions from a more senior officer.

Mr Pitter said: “He would have been following instructions given to him by those involved in the wider investigation of the events surrounding the inquest.”

He said that although there may have been failings, “the culpability lies with others, further up the chain and parts of the wider system deployed by Humberside Police Service.


“The spotlight should not be on the individual officers brought into the investigation to perform a specific task under instruction.”

Sam Green QC, for Officer Two, said his client will also not argue that the surveillance was justified.

Mr Green said: “He is at a loss to know what he was supposed to do once instructed to carry out highly sensitive surveillance.”

He said: “He believed he was carrying out lawful orders.”

Dijen Basu, for Humberside Police, told the panel that when the officers were questioned by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), Officer One refused to answer 324 pertinent questions and Officer Two refused 403 times.

He described the death of Mr Alder as “a shameful and terrible episode”.

The hearing heard how the surveillance came to light after the then home secretary Theresa May ordered police forces to search their archives following controversy over police monitoring of the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence.

After the IPCC investigated the surveillance of Ms Alder, the Crown Prosecution Service decided Officer One and Officer Two would not be prosecuted.

The inquest jury in 2000 returned a verdict of unlawful killing and in 2002 five police officers went on trial. But all the officers were acquitted on the orders of the judge part-way through the proceedings.

In 2011, Mr Alder’s family were told his body had been discovered in a hospital mortuary more than a decade after they thought he had been buried.


It later emerged pensioner Grace Kamara was buried in Mr Alder’s place two years after he died.

Officer One and Officer Two face allegations that their conduct amounted to gross misconduct. They could be dismissed if the allegations are proved.

Officer One was a detective sergeant at the time of the incident and Officer Two was an acting detective sergeant.

Retired senior officer Paul Cheeseman told the hearing he did not know who authorised the surveillance of Ms Alder, despite being the Silver Commander for the operation to police the Christopher Alder inquest in 2000.

Mr Cheeseman, who was a chief superintendent with Humberside Police at the time, told the panel: “I was certainly not part of any conspiracy whatsoever.”

The former officer said he agreed with a comment he made to IPCC investigators when he said he thought the surveillance was “cock-up over conspiracy”.

He said that although he was the overall Silver Commander, he was actually on holiday on the day the surveillance took place, on July 28, 2000.

Mr Cheeseman said there was no cover-up over the surveillance of Ms Alder as the officers reported it at the time, recording on the file that there was “no product” from the operation.

At the end of his evidence, Mr Green said to him: “Somebody, somewhere in Humberside Police, retired or still serving, the authorising officer, is squirming silently, hoping their identity is not revealed.”


Speaking outside the hearing Ms Alder, 56, from Leeds, said: “My concern is not the surveillance team, it’s who further up ordered it. It’s not these two.”

She said that although the hearing is only focusing on less than two hours of surveillance, she believes she was followed by officers over a much longer period, starting in 1998.

“This is just a tiny bit of it,” she said.

“Even now I think ‘are they still surveilling me?’.”

She said: “I have always thought it’s because they had contempt for me for standing up.”

http://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/16048364.Officers_accused_of_spying_on_campaigner____would_have_been_following_orders___/
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 06:41:48 PM »
Two police officers accused of spying on a woman campaigning about the death in custody of her brother would have been acting on orders from higher-ranking officers, their lawyers have told a hearing.

The two officers have not been named and appeared behind screens at a Humberside Police misconduct hearing in Goole, East Yorkshire, on Monday.

They are accused of gross misconduct over the unauthorised surveillance of Janet Alder more than 17 years ago, outside the inquest at Hull Combined Court into her brother Christopher’s death.


Mr Alder, 37, choked to death while handcuffed and lying on the floor of a police station in Hull in 1998.

Monday’s hearing at the old Goole Magistrates’ Court heard how a police surveillance team was deployed outside the inquest in July 2000 with orders relating to possible public order situations.

Christopher Alder choked to death while handcuffed and lying on the floor of a police station in Hull in 1998 (Handout/PA)Christopher Alder choked to death while handcuffed and lying on the floor of a police station in Hull in 1998 (Handout/PA)
The officers facing disciplinary actions – referred to as Officer One and Officer Two – are accused of carrying out surveillance on July 28 2000 “without appropriate authorisation and justification” when they followed Ms Alder and her barrister, Leslie Thomas QC, and listened to their conversations.

Summarising his client’s case, Jason Pitter QC, representing Officer One, said he will not be trying to justify the surveillance of Ms Alder and her lawyer.

He said the officer does not have full recollection of the events of 2000 but said he knows through his “ordinary working practices” he would only have acted on instructions from a more senior officer.

Mr Pitter said: “He would have been following instructions given to him by those involved in the wider investigation of the events surrounding the inquest.”

He said that although there may have been failings, “the culpability lies with others, further up the chain and parts of the wider system deployed by Humberside Police Service.


“The spotlight should not be on the individual officers brought into the investigation to perform a specific task under instruction.”

Sam Green QC, for Officer Two, said his client will also not argue that the surveillance was justified.

Mr Green said: “He is at a loss to know what he was supposed to do once instructed to carry out highly sensitive surveillance.”

He said: “He believed he was carrying out lawful orders.”

Dijen Basu, for Humberside Police, told the panel that when the officers were questioned by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), Officer One refused to answer 324 pertinent questions and Officer Two refused 403 times.

He described the death of Mr Alder as “a shameful and terrible episode”.

The hearing heard how the surveillance came to light after the then home secretary Theresa May ordered police forces to search their archives following controversy over police monitoring of the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence.

After the IPCC investigated the surveillance of Ms Alder, the Crown Prosecution Service decided Officer One and Officer Two would not be prosecuted.

The inquest jury in 2000 returned a verdict of unlawful killing and in 2002 five police officers went on trial. But all the officers were acquitted on the orders of the judge part-way through the proceedings.

In 2011, Mr Alder’s family were told his body had been discovered in a hospital mortuary more than a decade after they thought he had been buried.


It later emerged pensioner Grace Kamara was buried in Mr Alder’s place two years after he died.

Officer One and Officer Two face allegations that their conduct amounted to gross misconduct. They could be dismissed if the allegations are proved.

Officer One was a detective sergeant at the time of the incident and Officer Two was an acting detective sergeant.

Retired senior officer Paul Cheeseman told the hearing he did not know who authorised the surveillance of Ms Alder, despite being the Silver Commander for the operation to police the Christopher Alder inquest in 2000.

Mr Cheeseman, who was a chief superintendent with Humberside Police at the time, told the panel: “I was certainly not part of any conspiracy whatsoever.”

The former officer said he agreed with a comment he made to IPCC investigators when he said he thought the surveillance was “cock-up over conspiracy”.

He said that although he was the overall Silver Commander, he was actually on holiday on the day the surveillance took place, on July 28, 2000.

Mr Cheeseman said there was no cover-up over the surveillance of Ms Alder as the officers reported it at the time, recording on the file that there was “no product” from the operation.

At the end of his evidence, Mr Green said to him: “Somebody, somewhere in Humberside Police, retired or still serving, the authorising officer, is squirming silently, hoping their identity is not revealed.”


Speaking outside the hearing Ms Alder, 56, from Leeds, said: “My concern is not the surveillance team, it’s who further up ordered it. It’s not these two.”

She said that although the hearing is only focusing on less than two hours of surveillance, she believes she was followed by officers over a much longer period, starting in 1998.

“This is just a tiny bit of it,” she said.

“Even now I think ‘are they still surveilling me?’.”

She said: “I have always thought it’s because they had contempt for me for standing up.”

http://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/16048364.Officers_accused_of_spying_on_campaigner____would_have_been_following_orders___/

I agree the police are out of control in some aspect of their jobs, the  gentleman who died in the police custody is an absolute disgrace and those responsible for not helping him should be charged with failing to take care of a 'suspect' he wasn't even found guilty of anything FGS.

I also agree those who unlawfully placed a woman under duress and fear for her safety and well being is also a disgrace and they should be punished.

However, racism? no evidence of race being a reason for these events to have taken place..
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 02:40:58 PM »
I agree the police are out of control in some aspect of their jobs, the  gentleman who died in the police custody is an absolute disgrace and those responsible for not helping him should be charged with failing to take care of a 'suspect' he wasn't even found guilty of anything FGS.

I also agree those who unlawfully placed a woman under duress and fear for her safety and well being is also a disgrace and they should be punished.

However, racism? no evidence of race being a reason for these events to have taken place..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-43213762

"It heard how retired Insp Michael Dixon authorised at short notice on 28 July surveillance of a small group of "large black men" who had not been seen at the inquest before.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 02:43:59 PM »
I agree the police are out of control in some aspect of their jobs, the  gentleman who died in the police custody is an absolute disgrace and those responsible for not helping him should be charged with failing to take care of a 'suspect' he wasn't even found guilty of anything FGS.

I also agree those who unlawfully placed a woman under duress and fear for her safety and well being is also a disgrace and they should be punished.

However, racism? no evidence of race being a reason for these events to have taken place..

Do you mean the "unlawful killing" of Christopher Alder was a disgrace?

And what about the "monkey noises" made by the police officers and other related comments made in the custody suite?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4F1oyiHg
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 02:50:43 PM »
Do you mean the "unlawful killing" of Christopher Alder was a disgrace?

And what about the "monkey noises" made by the police officers and other related comments made in the custody suite?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4F1oyiHg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uWyrHEGuf9U
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 02:58:57 PM »
I agree the police are out of control in some aspect of their jobs, the  gentleman who died in the police custody is an absolute disgrace and those responsible for not helping him should be charged with failing to take care of a 'suspect' he wasn't even found guilty of anything FGS.

I also agree those who unlawfully placed a woman under duress and fear for her safety and well being is also a disgrace and they should be punished.

However, racism? no evidence of race being a reason for these events to have taken place..

What about events of November 2011?

And why do you believe Janet Alder was spied on?


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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2018, 05:10:32 PM »
What about events of November 2011?

And why do you believe Janet Alder was spied on?

I was commenting on your post I was unaware of the actual crime or what happened. I have now watched the video and have no doubts what so ever there was racially motivated aggravated behaviour towards this young man. I am horrified beyond belief that those responsible have not been held to account - no case to answer? what was that Judge on?

I find this to be a horrific miscarriage of justice. What happened to that law about when you are a spectator to a crime you are involved if you do not leave to get help?  that obviously doesn't apply here. That poor man- his dead body lying in that state[why were his trousers at his ankles?] - being mocked and jeered is a serious crime against humanity in my honest opinion! They all stood by each other to protect each other- disgusting bunch of cowards.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2018, 05:36:46 PM »
I was commenting on your post I was unaware of the actual crime or what happened. I have now watched the video and have no doubts what so ever there was racially motivated aggravated behaviour towards this young man. I am horrified beyond belief that those responsible have not been held to account - no case to answer? what was that Judge on?

I find this to be a horrific miscarriage of justice. What happened to that law about when you are a spectator to a crime you are involved if you do not leave to get help?  that obviously doesn't apply here. That poor man- his dead body lying in that state[why were his trousers at his ankles?] - being mocked and jeered is a serious crime against humanity in my honest opinion! They all stood by each other to protect each other- disgusting bunch of cowards.

The video you have watched is the shortened version.

The whole case from 1998 to now it horrific.

Christopher Alder's family buried their loved one in/around 2000.

Some time after Christopher's funeral his niece died and her ashes were scattered on his grave.

In November 2011 the Alder family were informed they (the family) had not buried Chrisptoher but instead a women of African decent.

Christopher's body had remained in a Hull mortuary and had alledgedly been used by the police for training purposes.

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Police spied on sister of paratrooper who died in police custody
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 05:38:56 PM »
The video you have watched is the shortened version.

The whole case from 1998 to now it horrific.

Christopher Alder's family buried their loved one in/around 2000.

Some time after Christopher's funeral his niece died and her ashes were scattered on his grave.

In November 2011 the Alder family were informed they (the family) had not buried Chrisptoher but instead a women of African decent.

Christopher's body had remained in a Hull mortuary and had alledgedly been used by the police for training purposes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-15645008
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