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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Why now?
« Reply #150 on: June 07, 2020, 09:43:54 AM »
Not in the least,but no matter his past,he enjoys the presumption of innocence in this case like the rest of the world.
Indeed but if publicising his suspect status brings in the evidence necessary to secure a conviction why would you object to that?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Erngath

Re: Why now?
« Reply #151 on: June 07, 2020, 09:44:14 AM »
The MET in the past have been at pains to point out they will not give a running commentary,no change now either,the press are running the investigation,he's a suspect nothing more nothing less,nothing concrete to link him.
Unfortunately for him he'll be forever tainted by the link to this mystery whatever the outcome.
Can he expect Bilton of the beeb to turn up and stick the furry mike under his nose like the previous suspects?

How "unfortunate " it is that this poor man will now be "tainted".
I think his past has tainted him.
Sorry but my sympathy is with his victims.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline barrier

Re: Why now?
« Reply #152 on: June 07, 2020, 09:44:40 AM »
Not while he's in prison  ?{)(**

Regarding Grange, what have they actually said, opposed to what media has said they've said ? You know how these things can be spun.

Good point is there a written statement attributed to a real person rather than the nameless spokesman.

Ah! yes here.

http://news.met.police.uk/news/operation-grange-update-and-appeal-403826

DCI Mark Cranwell, from Operation Grange said :

“Following our appeal for information yesterday, I want to thank those members of the public who have contacted us. As of 16:00hrs today, Thursday 4 June 2020 we have received over 270 calls and emails into the Incident Room.

“We are pleased with the information coming in, and it will be assessed and prioritised.

“We continue to urge anyone with information to come forward and speak with us.”

To re-cap :

Detectives leading enquiries into the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann have made a new public appeal for information.


It is now 13 years since Madeleine was reported missing during a family holiday in Portugal and the team of officers leading the Met’s investigation, known as Operation Grange, made a public appeal on Wednesday, 3 June, linked to a significant new line of enquiry.

Met detectives working with German authorities have identified a man currently imprisoned in Germany as a suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance.

This man is white and in 2007 is believed to have had short blond hair, possibly fair. He was about 6ft in height with a slim build. He is 43-years-old, but in 2007 may have looked between 25 to early 30s.

We have established that he lived on and off in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007. He is connected to the area of Praia da Luz and surrounding regions, and spent some short spells in Germany.

This individual, who we will not identify, is currently in prison in Germany for an unrelated matter.

The Operation Grange team is revealing details of two vehicles which the suspect is known to have had access to and used around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance.

The first vehicle is a distinctive VW T3 Westfalia campervan. It is an early 1980s model, with two tone markings, a white upper body and a yellow skirting. It had a Portuguese registration plate.

The suspect had access to this van from at least April 2007 until sometime after May 2007. It was used in and around the area of Praia da Luz.

We believe he was living in this van for days, possibly weeks, and may have been using it on 3 May 2007.

We are appealing for anyone who may have seen it in or around Praia da Luz on 3 May, the night Madeleine went missing, the days before, or weeks following the disappearance.

The second vehicle is a 1993 British Jaguar, model XJR 6, with a German number plate and registered in Germany.

This car is believed to have been in the Praia da Luz and surrounding areas in 2006 and 2007. The car was originally registered in the suspect’s name. On 4 May 2007, the day after Madeleine’s disappearance, the car was re-registered to someone else in Germany.

To re-register the car in Germany you don’t have to have the car in the country or region. We believe the car was still in Portugal and would like information if you saw it.

The Met is asking if anyone saw these cars together or individually during the spring and summer of 2007. Both of these vehicles are now held by the German authorities.

Detectives are also appealing for information about two mobile phone numbers, one of which is believed to have been used by the suspect on the day of Madeleine’s disappearance.

The first number is +351 912 730 680. Extensive enquiries have led investigators to believe the suspect was using this number and received a call, starting at 7.32pm and finishing at 8.02pm on 3 May 2007. This call was received in the area of Praia da Luz.

The second mobile number is +351 916 510 683. This number is the phone number that made this call. We know the person was not in the area of Praia da Luz.

Investigators believe the person who made this call is a highly significant witness and are appealing for them to get in touch.

The Operation Grange team is also asking anyone if they recognise these numbers. Did you ever call them? Do you have them in your phone, an old phone or your electronic contacts?

At 7.15pm UK time on Wednesday, 3 June, the Bundeskriminalamt (BKA) will also broadcast an appeal on German channel ZDF.

There is a £20,000 Met reward for information leading to the conviction of the person or persons responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell, who leads Operation Grange, said:

“It’s more than 13 years since Madeleine went missing and none of us can imagine what it must be like for her family, not knowing what happened or where she is.

“Following the ten- year anniversary, the Met received information about a German man who was known to have been in and around Praia da Luz. We have been working with colleagues in Germany and Portugal and this man is a suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance.

“The Met conducted a number of enquiries and in November 2017 engaged with the BKA who agreed to work with the Met.

“Since then a huge amount of work has taken place by both the Met, the BKA and the Polícia Judiciária.

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.

“Please contact us without delay so we can get answers for Madeleine’s family.”

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stuart Cundy said:

“Madeleine’s disappearance has attracted huge international interest. We are appealing for the public to help us establish what happened.

“We are committed to do everything we can to establish what happened and to find Madeleine.”

Speaking in support of yesterday’s appeal, Kate and Gerry McCann said:

“We welcome the appeal yesterday regarding the disappearance of our daughter, Madeleine.

“We would like to thank the police forces involved for their continued efforts in the search for Madeleine.

“All we have ever wanted is to find her, uncover the truth and bring those responsible to justice. We will never give up hope of finding Madeleine alive but whatever the outcome may be, we need to know, as we need to find peace.

“We will be making no further comment regarding the appeal.

“We would like to thank the general public for their ongoing support and encourage anyone who has information directly related to the appeal, to contact the police. Thank you.”

The Operation Grange incident room can be contacted via 0207 321 9251 or operation.grange@met.police.uk
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline barrier

Re: Why now?
« Reply #153 on: June 07, 2020, 09:46:30 AM »
From the article.

While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Erngath

Re: Why now?
« Reply #154 on: June 07, 2020, 09:47:47 AM »
From the article.

While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.


You are not maintaining an open mind as far as this suspect is concerned!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Why now?
« Reply #155 on: June 07, 2020, 09:53:28 AM »
From the article.

While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.


Which, to me, suggests that they still  really  don't know what happened that night.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline barrier

Re: Why now?
« Reply #156 on: June 07, 2020, 09:54:56 AM »
You are not maintaining an open mind as far as this suspect is concerned!

They clearly have nothing on him entering 5a,the appeal doesn't even cover that.They're more interested in vehicles and phone call's.
What actual evidence is there that a stranger entered 5a on the night of 3/05/2007?
Woke and wandered if anything imo.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline barrier

Re: Why now?
« Reply #157 on: June 07, 2020, 09:55:57 AM »
Which, to me, suggests that they still  really  don't know what happened that night.

Yep:

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stuart Cundy said:

“Madeleine’s disappearance has attracted huge international interest. We are appealing for the public to help us establish what happened.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why now?
« Reply #158 on: June 07, 2020, 09:56:55 AM »
The MET in the past have been at pains to point out they will not give a running commentary,no change now either,the press are running the investigation,he's a suspect nothing more nothing less,nothing concrete to link him.
Unfortunately for him he'll be forever tainted by the link to this mystery whatever the outcome.
Can he expect Bilton of the beeb to turn up and stick the furry mike under his nose like the previous suspects?

Quite frankly I simply cannot believe what is being said in some of the posts regarding this man and his proven criminal record.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Why now?
« Reply #159 on: June 07, 2020, 10:00:29 AM »
Could you give an example of what you don't believe ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Why now?
« Reply #160 on: June 07, 2020, 10:03:32 AM »
You are not maintaining an open mind as far as this suspect is concerned!

Absolutely not.  I wonder how crimes would be solved if the police just didn't bother for fear of upsetting suspects.

Mind you, I feel as if I am witnessing an extraordinary phenomenon here and the more posts I read the more intrigued I become at the mind set being put so unashamedly on display.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why now?
« Reply #161 on: June 07, 2020, 10:03:42 AM »
I should have added that in my opinion this is different.
The main reason I think it is different is because of this man's violent and very disturbing paedophilic past and that he is being investigated by several police forces.

Off topic I know but your avatar is quite grotesque. In my opinion.

The man’s violent past is of no importance if the clues are not there to tie him to a Madeleine’s disappearance, much the same as her parents.

And as to my avatar, I agree it is grotesque but then so is 60,000 dead people due to the incompetence of Johnson.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline barrier

Re: Why now?
« Reply #162 on: June 07, 2020, 10:05:52 AM »
Absolutely not.  I wonder how crimes would be solved if the police just didn't bother for fear of upsetting suspects.

Mind you, I feel as if I am witnessing an extraordinary phenomenon here and the more posts I read the more intrigued I become at the mind set being put so unashamedly on display.

Do you not agree this german who the MET choose not to name should not enjoy the presumption of innocence in regard to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why now?
« Reply #163 on: June 07, 2020, 10:06:10 AM »
Could you give an example of what you don't believe ?

Just read back and take your pick ... starting with the thread title :)
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why now?
« Reply #164 on: June 07, 2020, 10:08:17 AM »
Absolutely not.  I wonder how crimes would be solved if the police just didn't bother for fear of upsetting suspects.

Mind you, I feel as if I am witnessing an extraordinary phenomenon here and the more posts I read the more intrigued I become at the mind set being put so unashamedly on display.

I love the smell of faux outrage in the morning.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?