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Offline jassi

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #240 on: January 07, 2020, 08:26:42 PM »
One would expect that a child with the condition she had would have been known by many medical personnel over the years who would easily be able to confirm or refute the parents claims, so IMO it would be extremely foolish of them to lie about it.

Patient confidentiality perhaps ?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #241 on: January 07, 2020, 08:28:18 PM »
Patient confidentiality perhaps ?
The patient is dead, in case you hadn’t noticed.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #242 on: January 07, 2020, 08:31:50 PM »
One would expect her parents to have been truthful and accurate about her limitations.

If no, why not ?

again...what precisely  were the parents claims

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #243 on: January 07, 2020, 08:32:06 PM »
MISSING teenager Nora Quoirin is so disabled, she struggles to walk or even balance and “would go nowhere alone”, her family said yesterday.

Her parents say she is virtually incapable of wandering off and believe she must have been abducted.

In a statement released by the Lucie Blackman Trust on behalf of Nora’s family, including mother Meabh and father Sebastian, they said: “She is not like other teenagers.

“She is not independent and does not go anywhere alone.”

They told how Nora, of Balham, south London, was born with holoprosencephaly, a condition which leaves her struggling to walk, balance and look after herself.

They also revealed “her verbal communication is limited” and that she “cannot write more than a few words”.

The statement added: “Nora is very sensitive. Outside the family, she is very shy and can be quite anxious.

“Every night, her special time is for cuddles and a night-time story with her mum.

“Nora was born with holoprosencephaly. This means that she has a smaller brain. All of her life, she has spent a lot of time in hospital.”

The statement added: “She has been to Asia and many European countries before and has never wandered off or got lost.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1164076/nora-quoirin-missing-search-malaysia
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #244 on: January 07, 2020, 08:34:22 PM »
MISSING teenager Nora Quoirin is so disabled, she struggles to walk or even balance and “would go nowhere alone”, her family said yesterday.

Her parents say she is virtually incapable of wandering off and believe she must have been abducted.

In a statement released by the Lucie Blackman Trust on behalf of Nora’s family, including mother Meabh and father Sebastian, they said: “She is not like other teenagers.

“She is not independent and does not go anywhere alone.”

They told how Nora, of Balham, south London, was born with holoprosencephaly, a condition which leaves her struggling to walk, balance and look after herself.

They also revealed “her verbal communication is limited” and that she “cannot write more than a few words”.

The statement added: “Nora is very sensitive. Outside the family, she is very shy and can be quite anxious.

“Every night, her special time is for cuddles and a night-time story with her mum.

“Nora was born with holoprosencephaly. This means that she has a smaller brain. All of her life, she has spent a lot of time in hospital.”

The statement added: “She has been to Asia and many European countries before and has never wandered off or got lost.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1164076/nora-quoirin-missing-search-malaysia
so not  a statement by her parents

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #245 on: January 07, 2020, 08:34:45 PM »

"All her life she has spent a lot of time in hospital. When she was born, she needed operations to help her (breathe). She has specialists that monitor her growth, her physical abilities and her strength, and especially her mental capacity," they said in a statement released by the Lucie Blackman Trust, a British charity that supports people involved in crises overseas.

"She is not like other teenagers. She is not independent and does not go anywhere alone," they said. "Nora likes to walk with her family, but her balance is limited and she struggles with coordination. She has been to Asia, and many European countries before, and has never wandered off or got lost."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/10/london-teen-missing-malaysia-isnt-independent-has-difficulty/
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #246 on: January 07, 2020, 08:36:01 PM »
so not  a statement by her parents

Where did the Lucy Blackman Trust get their information?
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Offline jassi

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #247 on: January 07, 2020, 08:37:45 PM »
The patient is dead, in case you hadn’t noticed.

I think it still applies.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #248 on: January 07, 2020, 08:40:47 PM »
I think it still applies.
yes it does, admittedly, but in a criminal investigation police can apply to see patient records.  Also, I don’t think teachers of deceased children are bound by pupil confidentiality.  And then there are friends and extended family members who may take a dim view of the parents misrepresenting their relative’s abilities.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #249 on: January 07, 2020, 08:43:57 PM »
Where did the Lucy Blackman Trust get their information?

So your quote wasn't from the parents..
Probably unsteady alone but fine holding someone's hand

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #250 on: January 07, 2020, 08:48:53 PM »
One thing her parents have never said is that she could not have simply walked off on her own... Which would suggest she could

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #251 on: January 07, 2020, 08:55:45 PM »

Meabh said that it would have been "impossible physically, mentally to imagine that she [Nora] could have got any distance at all".

"She never even walked as far as our neighbours' front door by herself," she added.

"To think that Nora might get up in the middle of the night, naked, barefoot, get out of the bungalow into the jungle, bearing in mind the terrain is extremely steep and dangerous, in total darkness, makes absolutely no sense," he told RTÉ.

"We think it is absurd to think about this possibility."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50829844
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #252 on: January 07, 2020, 08:58:06 PM »
Patient confidentiality perhaps ?

or denial on the parents  part??

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #253 on: January 07, 2020, 09:03:53 PM »

In this interview her father confirms her bedroom was upstairs.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/1217/1101725-we-want-truth-and-justice-for-nora-quoirin-family/


Full interview on RTE Player, only available for the next 9 days.

https://www.rte.ie/player/movie/quoirin-interview/121261608142
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #254 on: January 07, 2020, 09:09:03 PM »
as  you   guys might know i have cerebal palsy and other  things including  severe scoliosis i can  walk by myself and do stairs  but it  depends on what type of  stairs    i also cant  walk long   distances     i  wonder if  nora was limited in physical ways like  me??