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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2020, 08:34:15 PM »
A front man for who?  I think he’s just an opportunist who would sell his granny for the top job.  Now he’s PM I hope he’s really enjoying it, I’m sure thr last year have been a right blast.

The ERG crowd?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2020, 08:35:13 PM »
I tend to agree with you on that. Sadly, I doubt that anyone really pointed out to them that the bread-winner could well be out of a job or small business.

Remaining in the EU isn't going to guarantee that Europe's fishermen keep their jobs by the look of things.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2020, 11:01:18 PM »
Remaining in the EU isn't going to guarantee that Europe's fishermen keep their jobs by the look of things.
Would leaving the EU help European fishermen more do you think?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2020, 02:09:43 AM »
Would leaving the EU help European fishermen more do you think?

No. Before 1970 their access to the richest fishing waters in the world was limited, being controlled by the UK, Ireland, Norway and Denmark (including Greenland). As these countries were seeking membership of the Common Market at the time, the six existing members drew up Council Regulation 2141/70 giving all Members equal access to all fishing waters. Britain, Ireland and Denmark accepted the condition and joined. Leaving the EU wouldn't help the European fishermen as they would then be unable to access EU member's waters as well as UK waters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Fisheries_Policy
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2020, 08:06:34 AM »
Looks like we’ll need to be encouraging the younger generation to relocate to the seaside and train as fisherpeople to catch all this fish that is going to restore the UK to its former glory. At least we won’t go hungry (if you can stomach a diet of fish, fish and more fish, for breakfast, lunch and dinner) as I see in today’s Times that stockpiling and food shortages of fruit and veg are going to kick in shortly.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2020, 11:37:18 AM »
Looks like we’ll need to be encouraging the younger generation to relocate to the seaside and train as fisherpeople to catch all this fish that is going to restore the UK to its former glory. At least we won’t go hungry (if you can stomach a diet of fish, fish and more fish, for breakfast, lunch and dinner) as I see in today’s Times that stockpiling and food shortages of fruit and veg are going to kick in shortly.

I remember when foods were eaten in season, so a lack of lettuce at Christmas won't bother me. I can also manage without spinach, olives and European cheeses.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2020, 01:18:08 PM »
I remember when foods were eaten in season, so a lack of lettuce at Christmas won't bother me. I can also manage without spinach, olives and European cheeses.
Bully for you.  Fish and chips it is then.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2020, 01:45:59 PM »
Bully for you.  Fish and chips it is then.

I'm sure you realise there's a wealth of food produced in Britain to choose from.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2020, 02:48:37 PM »
I'm sure you realise there's a wealth of food produced in Britain to choose from.
Of course I realise it, I just don’t think it’s desirable to limit and restrict choice or availability  because it will mean less to go round, push up prices, and increase food poverty.  But if that’s what Brexit means then so be it.  We will be begging to rejoin the EU before long in such an eventuality.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2020, 04:14:13 PM »
Of course I realise it, I just don’t think it’s desirable to limit and restrict choice or availability  because it will mean less to go round, push up prices, and increase food poverty.  But if that’s what Brexit means then so be it.  We will be begging to rejoin the EU before long in such an eventuality.

We shall see. After all, EU members will be keen to get their products to the UK so perhaps they'll lower their prices to reduce the effects of tariff charges on prices. Or perhaps Spain's  “Dystopian Sea" might get sorted out.
https://www.ecowatch.com/europes-dirty-little-secret-moroccan-slaves-and-a-sea-of-plastic-1882131257.html#toggle-gdpr
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2020, 04:39:51 PM »
We shall see. After all, EU members will be keen to get their products to the UK so perhaps they'll lower their prices to reduce the effects of tariff charges on prices. Or perhaps Spain's  “Dystopian Sea" might get sorted out.
https://www.ecowatch.com/europes-dirty-little-secret-moroccan-slaves-and-a-sea-of-plastic-1882131257.html#toggle-gdpr
They can lower their prices all they like, if their goods are stuck in Calais and other EU ports because of French fishermen blockades or massive tailbacks of lorries then it won’t make them very readily available.   And if Spain has to lay off all their Moroccan  “slaves” no doubt they will be exported to us in the back of the lorries too, together with the last of the lettuces and tomatoes.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Brexit
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2020, 05:22:09 PM »
Why on earth have they extended the deadline again when No Deal is going to be so extremely beneficial to our country?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2020, 07:32:25 PM »
Why on earth have they extended the deadline again when No Deal is going to be so extremely beneficial to our country?

Clearly one side has blinked. I would be surprised to hear that the UK have compromised on sovereignty.
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Offline Carana

Re: Brexit
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2020, 07:35:19 PM »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2020, 07:45:52 PM »
Clearly one side has blinked. I would be surprised to hear that the UK have compromised on sovereignty.

"Sovereignty"? In what sense?

When you sign up to any club, there are rights and obligations. The Uk was one of the major players in shaping EU "law", which then applied to all members.

Going back to WTO rules will still mean abiding by rules.