How credible are Martin Grimes claims

[Vertigo Swirl]

Getting too old for all the globetrotting perhaps?

Is there no call for his amazing crime-busting, never wrong in a billion barks services in the UK anymore?  Pity.

[faithlilly]

Is there no call for his amazing crime-busting, never wrong in a billion barks services in the UK anymore?  Pity.

I’m sure there’ll be others to pick up the mantle.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m sure there’ll be others to pick up the mantle.

In all seriousness if these dogs were so pinpoint accurate and their alerts indisputable  they would IMO be far more widely used.  Think of the time and effort they could save the judicial system.  Take a dog into the home of a suspected murderer and if it alerts then  simply arrest and convict without bothering with all the boring costly trial stuff in between. .

[Eleanor]

In all seriousness if these dogs were so pinpoint accurate and their alerts indisputable  they would IMO be far more widely used.  Think of the time and effort they could save the judicial system.  Take a dog into the home of a suspected murderer and if it alerts then  simply arrest and convict without bothering with all the boring costly trial stuff in between. .

This of course is what it's all about.  Do away with Trials.  But only for some.

[pathfinder73]

The dog alert indications MUST be corroborated if to establish their findings as evidence.
Therefore in this particular case, as no human remains were located, the only alert indications
that may become corroborated are those that the CSI dog indicated by forensic laboratory analysis.

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Any alert has to be corroborated before presenting it as evidence and that is clearly stated in Grime's report.

[Rossb]

I had to chuckle before. Cmomm user posted about gerrys statement calling the dogs unreliable then question who is unreliable. And in the statement they made went onto saying they had a 100 percent track record in over 200 cases lol, this person can not fathom their own irony.

[Rossb]

The dog alert indications MUST be corroborated if to establish their findings as evidence.
Therefore in this particular case, as no human remains were located, the only alert indications
that may become corroborated are those that the CSI dog indicated by forensic laboratory analysis.

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Any alert has to be corroborated before presenting it as evidence and that is clearly stated in Grime's report.

Exactly, their is no indication of a track record by percentage.

[misty]

In the Bianca Jones case, Grime was called in just 2 days after the toddler's disappearance. His cadaver dog Morse was tasked to screen a vehicle line-up which included D'Andre's silver Mercury.
In Netflix "Exhibit A cadaver dogs" there was some footage of this screening. You can clearly see there is a note on the screen of the silver car and the child car seat was still inside. Morse alerted to that same car & later the car seat.
Bianca has never been found either.
(Images courtesy of Mr Delorean on Twitter)

[Vertigo Swirl]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Muriel_McKay

Why hasn’t a cadaver dog found this woman’s body, the vicinity of her burial location has even been id’ed by the man who kidnapped her? 

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Oh dear.  Semantics again.  What an utterly pathetic defence of the obviously indefensible.

I don't believe it was semantics. Grimes conducted his work with the dogs, in this case, with great professionalism and claims that he somehow encouraged alerts are just clutching at straws in my opinion. The alerts by both Eddie and Keela (and the facts about where they did and did not alert) are highly suggestive that a dead body was present in apartment 5A and that bodily fluids from a dead body were  present in the McCann's hire car and on some items of clothing belonging to the McCanns. Forensic testing of these human bodily fluids was not conclusive as to the origin but they did contain 15 DNA markers in common with  Madeleine (which I know is not conclusive). Furthermore some of the samples collected for forensic examination contained DNA from more than one source which complicates things further.

[The General]

I don't believe it was semantics. Grimes conducted his work with the dogs, in this case, with great professionalism and claims that he somehow encouraged alerts are just clutching at straws in my opinion. The alerts by both Eddie and Keela (and the facts about where they did and did not alert) are highly suggestive that a dead body was present in apartment 5A and that bodily fluids from a dead body were  present in the McCann's hire car and on some items of clothing belonging to the McCanns. Forensic testing of these human bodily fluids was not conclusive as to the origin but they did contain 15 DNA markers in common with  Madeleine (which I know is not conclusive). Furthermore some of the samples collected for forensic examination contained DNA from more than one source which complicates things further.

If you press Chat GPT enough with very pointed questions, you get it to proffer a pointed answer:
While the specific names or details of the 15 DNA markers matched to Madeleine McCann have not been publicly released in full by authorities, forensic DNA testing typically includes the analysis of 15 or more STR markers to establish an individual's DNA profile. The more markers that are matched, the higher the probability of identifying the individual, and a match at 15 markers would be statistically significant.

In general, the 15 STR markers would have been selected for their ability to distinguish individuals, and a match at those loci would have suggested that the bodily fluids found in the apartment were very likely to belong to Madeleine McCann—or at least that there was a strong genetic link. However, the match was not considered conclusive by the investigators, because mitochondrial DNA and other factors (like the possibility of contamination) complicated the interpretation.