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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2018, 01:02:42 PM »
John is not wrong.  One minuscule piece of Gun Residue in his pocket?  What about the rest of his clothes and the rest of his jacket?

The rest of your comment is as usual, a bit beyond me.

Do you have a Cite for Scotland Yard?

I'm hopeful John has kept an open mind and will re-evaluate the evidence when he has the time.

If you re read my posts I tend to include a link when I've quoted something said by another. If I've missed something that concerns you please draw it to my attention and I'll edit it.

And if there is something I've posted that you cannot understand please point it out and I'll do my best to explain it to you.

I imagine though, if you don't have a full comprehension of a case like this, it would be beyond anyone.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2018, 02:32:49 PM »
Barry George hasn't been awarded compensation because he isn't innocent enough.


"But the High Court ruled he did not qualify because jurors could still reasonably have convicted him despite new evidence that led to his acquittal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21195269

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2018, 04:17:15 PM »
I'm interested in learning the truth of this case. Who murdered Jill Dando.

And why isn't Barry George innocent enough?

What do the police know that we don't?

The guilty walk in the footsteps of the innocent

They and indeed their families will go to great lengths in order to keep up appearances - I speak from experience you understand!

Where were Barry George's family when he was living in London, apparantly stalking women on a regular basis, and why did his family and friends allow him to live in such a mess? What's the back story?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2018, 04:36:43 PM »
Michelle Bates is the face of and presumably "brains" of the Barry George campaign?

Do you agree with this?

And do you agree the George case is fairly unique?

He never gave evidence during either of his trials - had his conviction overturned - yet all those who dealt with him whilst he was in prison appear concerned in relation to his risk to the public - hence he's now under MAPPA
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2018, 04:49:10 PM »


Have you read Mike Burke's book regarding his nephew?

I know there have been some strong opinions expressed on this case in the past here http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=953.msg28042#msg28042 but I think we"ve been misled. My opinion and no reflection on the forum of course.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2018, 05:14:14 PM »
We'll just have to agree to disagree.

We can indeed agree to disagree but its only a matter of time before the truth eventually comes out
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Offline Baz

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #66 on: April 03, 2018, 05:25:03 PM »
We can indeed agree to disagree but its only a matter of time before the truth eventually comes out

Sadly there is no guarantee that the truth will ever come out no matter how much time passes.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2018, 05:45:02 PM »
'Barry has mentioned visiting the grave a few times,' his spokesman Surjit Singh Clair told me this week.
'It's something he definitely wants to do. He just feels there's a connection between them  -  they've been tragically brought together.'

George has also discussed his plans with his confidante, his sister, Michelle Diskin.

'Barry spent eight years in jail for a murder he didn't do,' Mr Singh Clair said. 'He's become entwined with her life and she has played a huge part in his. He wants to exorcise Jill's ghost, and say: "I don't want you to think I hold any hard feelings against you."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1076331/Obsessed-visiting-Jill-Dandos-grave-acting-erratically-Barry-George-man-edge.html#ixzz5Bd1rDuQV
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2018, 05:55:04 PM »
"Barry George finds himself a friend in Sion Jenkins


"The men are said to have become friends about six months ago, through Mr George's sister, Michelle Diskin. She had met Mr Jenkins at a seminar on miscarriages of justice.
It is understood that Mr Jenkins told her Mr George could stay with him if he needed an escape from media attention after his release."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1051168/Barry-George-friend-SIon-Jenkins.html#ixzz5Bd5x0R7m 




Discussion on Sion Jenkins can be found here

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=39.0
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david1819

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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2018, 02:37:45 AM »
I believe Jill Dando was killed by Serbians. Her murder came within weeks of the murder of Slavko Curuvija. Both were news reporters who criticised the Serbian regime.

"A widow of one of their alleged victims said Miss Dando's execution in April 1999 has all the hallmarks of her own husband's murder, which was two weeks earlier."

"The cartridge case had crimp marks on it of the type often found in Soviet Union and its satellite countries, according to Mr Mead."


Serbian police claim their is a link to Radomir Markovic, Milan Radonjic, Ratko Romic and Miroslav Kurak for Jill Dando's murders.






Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2018, 07:56:25 AM »
I believe Jill Dando was killed by Serbians. Her murder came within weeks of the murder of Slavko Curuvija. Both were news reporters who criticised the Serbian regime.

"A widow of one of their alleged victims said Miss Dando's execution in April 1999 has all the hallmarks of her own husband's murder, which was two weeks earlier."

"The cartridge case had crimp marks on it of the type often found in Soviet Union and its satellite countries, according to Mr Mead."


Serbian police claim their is a link to Radomir Markovic, Milan Radonjic, Ratko Romic and Miroslav Kurak for Jill Dando's murders.



Yes, and you also believe Jeremy Bamber is innocent David. I don't believe the proganda peddled by the media nor to I believe in individuals who self promote.

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2018, 04:34:56 PM »
Ms Diskin said she started working on her brother's case the minute she heard he had been taken into custody. She maintained throughout that her brother was "too gentle" to commit the murder, and she co-ordinated a determined campaign to prove his innocence https://www.irishtimes.com/news/barry-george-s-sister-tells-of-huge-strain-of-campaign-1.931572
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2018, 04:43:11 PM »
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/barry-george-begins-life-sentence-bv-barry-georges-uncle-news-footage/684707048

Mr George’s uncle, Michael Bourke, expected the worst. I spoke to Michael immediately after the verdict. He said: “We thought it was going to be guilty and when we saw the jury’s faces, not one of them showing they were for him, we just…” He hunched his shoulders to illustrate how they flinched.
When the “not guilty” came, Michelle Diskin, Mr George’s sister, was the only one of the three to show any emotion – she slammed the bench that was actually right behind where I was sitting and shouted an exultant, but still surprised, “Yes”. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2491147/Analysis-Twists-and-turns-that-enabled-Barry-George-to-walk-free.html


Michael Bourke, George's uncle, is adamant that his nephew does not fit this profile. He is convinced that George possesses neither the physical nor mental ability to carry out such a crime, an opinion which is backed up by experts who have provided evidence to the CCRC investigation. From an early age, he had attended a special school and also suffered from epilepsy. At the time of his arrest, George was using the name Barry Bulsara, the real name of the late Queen frontman Freddie Mercury.
Mr Bourke, who lives in Ireland, said: "Barry is not stupid but he is not the brightest either. A lot of people survive being shot in the head but this was a killing carried out with such efficiency. Barry is the sort of person who would have panicked or tried to hide if he had committed the crime, but people at the advice centre [that he visited that day] said he arrived completely calm." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/special-report-disturbing-new-evidence-may-reveal-a-miscarriage-of-justice-in-dando-case-413556.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #73 on: April 10, 2018, 09:48:01 AM »
April 2003
"After the murder of the television star, Jill Dando, it was claimed - falsely - that detectives went to him to ask whether her killing was the work of a hitman" https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/jul/28/ukcrime.stevenmorris

"I won't Stop until I clear my name https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/30/kevin-lane-robert-magill-charlie-wilson-interview-nick-hopkins

April 1999
"Speculation focussed immediately on a possible motive for the attack which stunned her friends, family and colleagues. Because of her fame and high profile, the possibility that she had been targeted by a stalker was seen as a potential motive. She had not expressed any fears for her personal safety to colleagues and friends could think of her no reason for the attack. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/apr/27/duncancampbell.rorycarroll

April 1999
"Many hitmen are never caught, although Kevin Lane, 26, known as "The Executioner", was jailed in 1996 for the murder of the millionaire businessman Robert Magill, who was shot while walking his dohttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/dando-murder-a-choice-of-contract-killers-is-now-available-from-just-pounds-1000-1090053.html

May 1999
"Although the BBC has received several death threats since Dando's murder from alleged Serb terror groups, police still believe the killer is most likely to be someone with a more direct connection to Jill, real or imagined
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/may/02/theobserver.uknews

April 2000
"They told the police that the killing was a "Mickey Mouse" affair, committed by an "amateur", and not the work of a professional hitman, said Detective Chief Inspector Hamish Campbell, the officer heading the murder hunt.
The 45-strong Dando squad now believe that the killer is most likely a man obsessed with the television presenter who had a knowledge of firearms, possibly through a gun club.
A profiler used by Scotland Yard believes the "skilled amateur" responsible is extremely unlikely to strike again.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/hitmen-tell-police-dando-killing-is-work-of-amateur-281601.html

May 2000
"Police confirmed that the information which led to the arrest was given to the police several weeks ago - before the BBC television Crimewatch programme appeal to mark the first anniversary of her death on April 26 - but could not be acted on immediately. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/may/26/sarahhall.nickhopkins

Feb 2001
"Following his conviction, Lane says he was the victim of a sustained smear campaign. In various newspapers, he was dubbed the Executioner, and linked to other unsolved murders. They included the assassinations of Charlie Wilson, the Great Train Robber targeted on the Costa del Sol in 1990, and Karen Reed, a 33-year-old geophysicist, who was shot on the doorstep of her home in Surrey in April 1994 by a man posing as a pizza delivery rider. One report claimed Lane had also worked to order for the Russian mafia.
When the TV presenter Jill Dando was shot on the doorstep of her home in Fulham in April 1999, Lane's name cropped up again. At the time, detectives wanted advice from expert hitmen. Newspapers said they turned to Lane to ask whether Dando's murderer was the work of a professional.
"Nobody from the Dando team came to see me," he says. "It was rubbish, like most of the stuff that has been in the papers. Being wrongly convicted of one was bad enough. Then, overnight, I became a multiple murderer."
Lane says there is another story - his story - and it has only been half told. "Just hear me out," he says. "Then make up your own mind." https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/feb/14/kevin-lane

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2302523/Police-hope-finding-Jill-Dandos-killer.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #74 on: April 10, 2018, 11:07:31 AM »
Ms Diskin said she started working on her brother's case the minute she heard he had been taken into custody. She maintained throughout that her brother was "too gentle" to commit the murder, and she co-ordinated a determined campaign to prove his innocence https://www.irishtimes.com/news/barry-george-s-sister-tells-of-huge-strain-of-campaign-1.931572

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&dq=michael+boirke+barry+george+campaign+to+clear+name&source=bl&ots=Osv66NAZ9H&sig=u6QkUj9tNaTGF9YhqcBKAPXCuHU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwidxre7ua_aAhWNSsAKHUtQDA4Q6AEwBXoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=michael%20boirke%20barry%20george%20campaign%20to%20clear%20name&f=false

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9318.msg454799#msg454799 "Barry George's Mike says he felt bitter for a long time after George was released from prison. He talks of how he and fellow supporters were ultimately dumped by George; even though he'd put in years of campaigning?
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