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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #180 on: April 03, 2019, 12:21:42 PM »
Video of Barry George’s attempt to roller skate over 4 double decker buses

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1890544/Video-Barry-George-attempts-rollerskate-four-double-decker-buses.html

There’s a photograph in this link https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/they-put-gun-head-acquitted-1793222
where Barry George is clearly seen imitating holding and pointing a gun.


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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #181 on: April 03, 2019, 12:27:53 PM »
“George often had "funny turns", but staff were not sure whether these episodes were real or feigned. Doctors examined him on two occasions between 1974 and 1976 and concluded there was nothing wrong.

It is now accepted that George does suffer from a mild form of epilepsy, though the experts are divided about its effects. Some believe George deliberately exaggerates the condition, others claim it has caused "severe brain dysfunction


“One specific meaning of the term religious abuse refers to psychological manipulation and harm inflicted on a person by using the teachings of their religion. This is perpetrated by members of the same or similar faith, and includes the use of a position of authority within the religion.[2] It is most often directed at children and emotionally vulnerable adults, and motivations behind such abuse vary, but can be either well-intentioned or malicious.[3]

Even well-intentioned religious abuse can have long-term psychological consequences, such as the victim developing phobias or long-term depression. They may have a sense of shame that persists even after they leave the religion. A person can also be manipulated into avoiding a beneficial action (such as a medical treatment) or to engage in a harmful behavior.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_abuse
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #182 on: April 03, 2019, 12:32:54 PM »

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
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Well, we were not disappointed, were we? Not informed of content, not given ‘right of reply’, ex cop telling outright lies...par for the course, really 😡 Disgraceful behaviour from the BBC and Crimewatch. Yes, this was made by Crimewatch personnel.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1113367458042253312


Stand Against Injustice by Michelle Diskin Bates https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-Injustice-Michelle-Diskin/dp/1910786241

”PiXeLWRiTeR
5.0 out of 5 starsI wish this book was in the fiction section.
9 December 2018
Format: Paperback
Having read the introduction, this book seemed set up to be a rollercoaster ride of a novel, mixing the crime and thriller genres with an uncomfortable hint of horror as well.

I normally head for the sci-fi section of a bookshop, but something about fighting injustice struck a chord. I had no idea what an experience it would be to read this book, to follow and share (in a very small way!) the path taken by the author and others in the book.

This story feels almost like fiction anyway - the real-life landscape revealed in this book is such an eye-opener I was almost hoping the last page would be the standard disclaimer that there was no real or intended reference to real people, names or events.

Read and learn. . .
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 12:36:42 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #183 on: April 03, 2019, 12:38:57 PM »

Michelle Diskin Bates
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Well, we were not disappointed, were we? Not informed of content, not given ‘right of reply’, ex cop telling outright lies...par for the course, really  Disgraceful behaviour from the BBC and Crimewatch. Yes, this was made by Crimewatch personnel.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1113367458042253312


Stand Against Injustice by Michelle Diskin Bates https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-Injustice-Michelle-Diskin/dp/1910786241

”PiXeLWRiTeR
5.0 out of 5 starsI wish this book was in the fiction section.
9 December 2018
Format: Paperback
Having read the introduction, this book seemed set up to be a rollercoaster ride of a novel, mixing the crime and thriller genres with an uncomfortable hint of horror as well.

I normally head for the sci-fi section of a bookshop, but something about fighting injustice struck a chord. I had no idea what an experience it would be to read this book, to follow and share (in a very small way!) the path taken by the author and others in the book.

This story feels almost like fiction anyway - the real-life landscape revealed in this book is such an eye-opener I was almost hoping the last page would be the standard disclaimer that there was no real or intended reference to real people, names or events.

Read and learn. . .


“I first met Michelle Bates when I interviewed her at my Spiritual Health Conference and then again when I interviewed her on my TV chat show. Even though I knew her story when I read this book I could not put it down. This is an amazing story of love and faith whilst pursuing justice for her brother. What a story! You have to read this book! --Nancy Goudie, Author and Motivational Speaker; Founder/CEO of ngm and Founder of Nancy Goudie's Spiritual Health Weekends.

Written with great integrity and without even a hint of self-pity or hatred towards, or vengeance against, those responsible for causing her brother's wrongful conviction or who played a part in preventing its overturn or are currently refusing him compensation.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stand-Against-Injustice-Michelle-Diskin/dp/1910786241
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #184 on: April 03, 2019, 01:12:38 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

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Not so much interesting for Barry, as scary! He’s been battling for justice for 19yrs, then the officer who was responsible for his wrongful conviction is given a platform on BBC to say ‘no one else was being sought for this crime’ how else would he be feeling? Disgraceful!


“Notable by its absence was an interview with Barry George, who spent eight years in jail for her murder before having his conviction overturned in 2008.
Explaining why, a BBC spokesperson said: "Barry George's arrest, conviction, appeal, retrial and acquittal are addressed in the film with archive footage to recount the events.
"It was not necessary to have a present day interview with Mr George as this film set out to tell the wider context of Jill's death and the fact her murder remains unsolved.
"Barry George has been kept informed of the nature of the film and transmission."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47798970
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #185 on: April 03, 2019, 01:20:20 PM »

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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Well, we were not disappointed, were we? Not informed of content, not given ‘right of reply’, ex cop telling outright lies...par for the course, really 😡 Disgraceful behaviour from the BBC and Crimewatch. Yes, this was made by Crimewatch personnel.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1113367458042253312

Who is telling outright lies?

"Barry George has been kept informed of the nature of the film and transmission."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47798970
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #186 on: April 03, 2019, 07:28:37 PM »
“One specific meaning of the term religious abuse refers to psychological manipulation and harm inflicted on a person by using the teachings of their religion. This is perpetrated by members of the same or similar faith, and includes the use of a position of authority within the religion.[2] It is most often directed at children and emotionally vulnerable adults, and motivations behind such abuse vary, but can be either well-intentioned or malicious.[3]

Even well-intentioned religious abuse can have long-term psychological consequences, such as the victim developing phobias or long-term depression. They may have a sense of shame that persists even after they leave the religion. A person can also be manipulated into avoiding a beneficial action (such as a medical treatment) or to engage in a harmful behavior.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_abuse

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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God is so good... we have been showered with love today, we are not discouraged. Thank you twitter friends.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1113505527244443648/photo/1
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #187 on: April 03, 2019, 07:48:41 PM »
29th March 2019

“The detective who led the inquiry into Jill Dando's murder has told the BBC her case will never be solved.
Hamish Campbell told a documentary to mark 20 years since the newsreader's shooting: "Do I think somebody will come back to court? Probably not, no."

His team arrested Barry George in 2000, one year after Dando, 37, was killed on her doorstep in Fulham, west London.
Mr George was convicted of murder and spent eight years in jail, before being acquitted at a retrial and released.

The Murder of Jill Dando will be shown on BBC One at 21:00 BST on Tuesday 2 April.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47742654


“Mr Campbell and the Metropolitan Police faced criticism after Mr George was cleared, but maintained that they had never used the convicted sex offender as a scapegoat.

He said: 'There's always been the view, in the media and elsewhere, that the police chose Barry George somehow as a scapegoat and for want of a better word, a patsy, for the investigation team because we couldn't solve it.

'That is somewhat insulting and completely untrue, and wrong.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6862889/Met-officer-investigated-Jill-Dando-case-claims-killer-unlikely-face-justice.html

“Standing outside the Royal Courts of Justice in London with her brother, Michelle Diskin, from Ballincollig, Co Cork, told reporters:

“There never was any viable evidence against Barry.”

The appeals court upheld an earlier ruling by the British high court that Mr George was “not innocent enough to be compensated”.

This whole case from Apr 2000 until today has been a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to placate a worried public, and give the impression that justice had been done.

“Well neither the Dando family, nor our family, has seen any justice in the past 13 years.”

Ms Diskin said: “We are extremely disappointed with the decision and will need to go away and regroup to decide what to do next. We cannot let this go unchallenged.

“Serving eight years in prison for someone else’s crime is not acceptable.

“Everything was taken from this man when the police started what we believe to be a malicious prosecution.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/family-of-barry-george-to-fight-travesty-of-justice-236443.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #188 on: April 06, 2019, 07:06:24 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

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I've studied various aspects of the law including Forensic Psychology but it doesn't take an expert to know - just by looking at the MO of Dando's murder that it had to be carried out by an expert - a contract killing and the culprit is connected to someone known to her.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin



Strewth  *&^^&
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #189 on: April 08, 2019, 12:02:29 PM »
A recent BBC documentary about the murder of Jill Dando:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0003w40/the-murder-of-jill-dando

What has always struck me as odd about this case is the fact Jill Dando spent very little time at her house.  Instead spending most of the time at her fiancees house in Chiswick where she spent the night before she was murdered.  Then when she left his house that morning she didn't go straight to her house but went shopping.  CCTV footage doesn't show any evidence that she was being followed.  Later that day she was due to attend a bridal shop for a fitting. 

How would anyone, other than those in the know through Jill, her fiancee and those close to her know her movements?  The one exception being immediate neighbours.

Jill and Alan were engaged in Feb 1999 and on the day of the murder she was due to attend a bridal shop.  Was the perp, either directly or through a hit person, a jealous ex or someone that had desires on Alan Farthing from afar? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Farthing

The docu shows yet another completely male dominated police investigation so once again we only see the case investigated through the male eye!

Many of the participants ask why would anyone want to murder Jill Dando?  Jealousy?  Here was a woman who appeared to have it all and if the perp had some unhealthy interest in Alan Farthing or was a jealous ex then I would imagine if you were that way inclined it would only be exacerbated by seeing Jill's face on high profile tv programmes like News, Holiday and Crimewatch.
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Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #190 on: April 08, 2019, 12:36:26 PM »
A recent BBC documentary about the murder of Jill Dando:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0003w40/the-murder-of-jill-dando

What has always struck me as odd about this case is the fact Jill Dando spent very little time at her house.  Instead spending most of the time at her fiancees house in Chiswick where she spent the night before she was murdered.  Then when she left his house that morning she didn't go straight to her house but went shopping.  CCTV footage doesn't show any evidence that she was being followed.  Later that day she was due to attend a bridal shop for a fitting. 

How would anyone, other than those in the know through Jill, her fiancee and those close to her know her movements?  The one exception being immediate neighbours.

An opportunist/stalker wouldn’t need to know her movements!
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #191 on: April 08, 2019, 12:39:19 PM »
Here's an old article by Geoffrey Levy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244910/Why-murder-ex-fianc-Jill-Dando-haunts-man-deliver-Kate-Middletons-baby.html

It appears the emphasis was on looking at Jill's ex's/obsessives rather than Alan's?!

What a misogynist:

"There were five men who figured seriously in Jill Dando’s life - not an excessive number for a modern, single woman of 37". 

Would he honestly write that comment if he was referring to a male? 

'There were five women who figured seriously in Bill Blogg's life - not an excessive number for a modern, single male of 37'. 

And how would anyone know the exact nature of these relationships excluding the participants?  Any what about anyone who was actually acquainted with Jill or Alan but not intimately involved emotionally/sexually but had an unhealthy interest/obsession?   
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #192 on: April 08, 2019, 12:39:25 PM »
Jill and Alan were engaged in Feb 1999 and on the day of the murder she was due to attend a bridal shop.  Was the perp, either directly or through a hit person, a jealous ex or someone that had desires on Alan Farthing from afar? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Farthing

To which “jealous ex” do you refer?



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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #193 on: April 08, 2019, 12:41:06 PM »

Jill and Alan were engaged in Feb 1999 and on the day of the murder she was due to attend a bridal shop.  Was the perp, either directly or through a hit person, a jealous ex or someone that had desires on Alan Farthing from afar? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Farthing

... or someone who had “desires” on Jill Dando from afar?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #194 on: April 08, 2019, 12:44:12 PM »
An opportunist/stalker wouldn’t need to know her movements!

As Jill's cousin said in the docu for this to have happened all the stars would need to align. 

The statistical chances of an opportunist stalker happening upon Jill at her home address when her movements were random and unknown who just happened to have a loaded firearm on his/her person would imo be so statistically unlikely I would rule it out. 

She had not mentioned to anyone about being stalked.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?