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1989–1990: West London murders
« on: June 17, 2012, 02:19:06 AM »
We came across this interesting piece on gay murders in London.



1989–1990: West London murders

Towards the end of 1989 and the start of 1990, there were a series of unsolved murders in west London over a period of six months.

In September 1989, Christopher Schliach, a barrister who was gay, was murdered in his home; he was stabbed more than 40 times. Three months later, Henry Bright, a hotelier who was gay, was also stabbed to death at his home. A month later, William Dalziel, a hotel porter who was gay, was found unconscious on a roadside in Acton, west London. He died from severe head injuries. Three months after this, actor Michael Boothe was murdered in west London (see below 2007 Met review).

In July 1990, following these murders, hundreds of lesbians and gay men marched from the park where Boothe had been killed to Ealing town hall and held a candlelit vigil.

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 08:44:07 AM »
Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?

AgentA

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 10:55:08 AM »
Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?



 8-)(--) he wouldnt answer questions even when asked !!! would be very interesting to find more out about these though  8(0(*

peteats

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 11:22:57 AM »
Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?

Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?

Should this not read..... K.C. and the BumShine band.. @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

realtruth

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 11:26:44 AM »
Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?

Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?

Should this not read..... K.C. and the BumShine band.. @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* LMHO @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

realtruth

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 11:29:03 AM »
Is/was KC and the sunshine band another Colin Ireland in the making?



 8-)(--) he wouldnt answer questions even when asked !!! would be very interesting to find more out about these though  8(0(*
Firstly,anyone know if they remain unsolved?

Who is Kevin Cragie

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 11:31:49 AM »
We came across this interesting piece on gay murders in London.



1989–1990: West London murders

Towards the end of 1989 and the start of 1990, there were a series of unsolved murders in west London over a period of six months.

In September 1989, Christopher Schliach, a barrister who was gay, was murdered in his home; he was stabbed more than 40 times. Three months later, Henry Bright, a hotelier who was gay, was also stabbed to death at his home. A month later, William Dalziel, a hotel porter who was gay, was found unconscious on a roadside in Acton, west London. He died from severe head injuries. Three months after this, actor Michael Boothe was murdered in west London (see below 2007 Met review).

In July 1990, following these murders, hundreds of lesbians and gay men marched from the park where Boothe had been killed to Ealing town hall and held a candlelit vigil.

where was kevin at the time of these murders does anybody know?

realtruth

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 11:34:40 AM »
We came across this interesting piece on gay murders in London.



1989–1990: West London murders

Towards the end of 1989 and the start of 1990, there were a series of unsolved murders in west London over a period of six months. Interesting Q.

In September 1989, Christopher Schliach, a barrister who was gay, was murdered in his home; he was stabbed more than 40 times. Three months later, Henry Bright, a hotelier who was gay, was also stabbed to death at his home. A month later, William Dalziel, a hotel porter who was gay, was found unconscious on a roadside in Acton, west London. He died from severe head injuries. Three months after this, actor Michael Boothe was murdered in west London (see below 2007 Met review).

In July 1990, following these murders, hundreds of lesbians and gay men marched from the park where Boothe had been killed to Ealing town hall and held a candlelit vigil.

where was kevin at the time of these murders does anybody know?

Hammer head

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 02:10:28 PM »
We came across this interesting piece on gay murders in London.



1989–1990: West London murders

Towards the end of 1989 and the start of 1990, there were a series of unsolved murders in west London over a period of six months.

In September 1989, Christopher Schliach, a barrister who was gay, was murdered in his home; he was stabbed more than 40 times. Three months later, Henry Bright, a hotelier who was gay, was also stabbed to death at his home. A month later, William Dalziel, a hotel porter who was gay, was found unconscious on a roadside in Acton, west London. He died from severe head injuries. Three months after this, actor Michael Boothe was murdered in west London (see below 2007 Met review).

In July 1990, following these murders, hundreds of lesbians and gay men marched from the park where Boothe had been killed to Ealing town hall and held a candlelit vigil.

where was kevin at the time of these murders does anybody know?

been reading news reports about some of these murders. still interested to know where KC was at the time.

AgentA

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 03:45:28 PM »
interesting this .......KC got away very lightly , don't you think ?

2006: first prosecution for homophobic murder

On the 14Th October 2005, London, Jody Dobrowski was beaten to death on Clapham Common by two men who perceived him as being gay; Dobrowski was beaten so badly he had to be identified by his fingerprints. Thomas Pickford and Scott Walker were given life sentences in what was described as a 'homophobic murder' in June 2006.[13] This was the first prosecution in England and Wales where Section 146 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 was used in sentencing the killers; this enabled the courts to impose a tougher sentence for offenses motivated or aggravated by the victim's sexual orientation, in this case a minimum of 30 years in prison.[14]

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 03:49:05 PM »
interesting this .......KC got away very lightly , don't you think ?

2006: first prosecution for homophobic murder

On the 14Th October 2005, London, Jody Dobrowski was beaten to death on Clapham Common by two men who perceived him as being gay; Dobrowski was beaten so badly he had to be identified by his fingerprints. Thomas Pickford and Scott Walker were given life sentences in what was described as a 'homophobic murder' in June 2006.[13] This was the first prosecution in England and Wales where Section 146 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 was used in sentencing the killers; this enabled the courts to impose a tougher sentence for offenses motivated or aggravated by the victim's sexual orientation, in this case a minimum of 30 years in prison.[14]

Ten years for a murder is light in anyone's book. 
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

peteats

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 03:50:38 PM »
In his statement to the probation officer Mark Fuller states they ( Fuller & Craigie ) had done this before. Perhaps Kevin would like to comment on this previous event, It would be in his best intrest to comment thus avoiding all the speculation  8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--)

AgentA

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Who is Kevin Cragie

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2012, 04:11:09 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/14/gayrights.comment

So when, three months later, another gay man was brutally killed in west London, my world exploded. The death of the actor Michael Boothe was one of those events which, in its own small way, changed things forever.

Michael Boothe was a jobbing actor. He toured with Derek Nimmo, he did panto with Lorraine Chase and Michael Elphick, he did the occasional telly. You may have seen him in Dr Who. Michael was also gay. Everyone who knew Michael knew. His family knew. Even complete strangers knew.

On April 29 1990, a Saturday, Michael went out with a couple of gay friends. They spent much of the evening drinking in Earl's Court, before repairing to the Ealing home of one of the party. Around 12.15am, Michael embarked on the short walk home. His route took him past public toilets on the edge of Elthorne Park. These were then a well-known cottage or, in police-speak, "a meeting place for homosexuals". In the early months of 1990, police had been staking out the toilets, arresting gay men in unprecedented numbers. The night that Michael walked past, however, the police were nowhere to be seen.

Who is Kevin Cragie

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Re: 1989–1990: West London murders
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2012, 04:13:48 PM »
interesting this .......KC got away very lightly , don't you think ?

2006: first prosecution for homophobic murder

On the 14Th October 2005, London, Jody Dobrowski was beaten to death on Clapham Common by two men who perceived him as being gay; Dobrowski was beaten so badly he had to be identified by his fingerprints. Thomas Pickford and Scott Walker were given life sentences in what was described as a 'homophobic murder' in June 2006.[13] This was the first prosecution in England and Wales where Section 146 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 was used in sentencing the killers; this enabled the courts to impose a tougher sentence for offenses motivated or aggravated by the victim's sexual orientation, in this case a minimum of 30 years in prison.[14]

Ten years for a murder is light in anyone's book.

does anyone else think Kevin was given a light sentence?