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Offline Brietta

No-one has reported seeing eye colour as far as I know.

I wonder if that might possibly be as a result of witness attraction being distracted by other considerations.  I think it possible I might have overlooked eye colour if confronted with the situation.

The two would be at a festival in São Bartolomeu de Messines, silves county, having then moved to a playground. Already in this place, Christian Brueckner hid under a slide and put his pants down his knees. A police officer reported the situation and "witnesses said a second man fled the scene," the Mirror wrote, adding that the case was eventually dismissed.
https://sol.sapo.pt/artigo/706638/suspeito-do-desaparecimento-de-maddie-teria-c-mplice-em-2017


Perhaps all will be revealed if the BKA prosecute Brueckner as a consequence of this aberrant behaviour which the Portuguese appear to be tolerant of.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Maddie suspect Christian Brückner was ‘dealing drugs at teenage parties’ in Portugal
David Brown, Praia da Luz
Sunday June 07 2020, 12.00pm, The Times
Madeleine McCann
A witness said Christian Brückner sold drugs at teenage parties around the village of Barão de São João, close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared
A witness said Christian Brückner sold drugs at teenage parties around the village of Barão de São João, close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared
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A convicted paedophile who is the key suspect in the abduction of Madeleine McCann allegedly used drugs to coerce children into sex in the months before she disappeared.

Christian Brückner is said to have sold marijuana at parties for young teenagers close to the Portuguese holiday apartment where Madeleine was staying in May 2007.

Following Madeleine’s disappearance the German drifter moved to a remote village 40 miles away where he used a different name.


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Before Madeleine’s disappearance Brückner, now 43, sold drugs accompanied by another man, according to a witness. Both men were assumed to be British as they always spoke English.

A witness said he sold drugs at parties held for teenagers in the forests around the village of Barão de São João, five miles north of Praia da Luz where Madeleine was abducted.

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The village has a large German population and is regarded by locals as a “hippy commune” where marijuana is openly smoked. Villagers have confirmed that Brückner was a regular visitor.

The woman said that Brückner used the drug to coerce girls into sex. The Times has not been able to independently verify the witness’s claims.

“That was an exchange of favors,”she told TVI news. “He gave “greens” [marijuana] and in return they gave sex because . . . there was no [other] way to pay.

His accomplice was so similar in appearance that she thought they might be brothers.


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“They were both tall, both were blond, one had green eyes, the other had blue eyes,” she said. “I thought the two of them were English [but] now they are saying that he was German. I always thought they were English, because I heard them speak in English.”

The woman said she does not believe Brückner is involved with Madeleine’s abduction but last saw him shortly before the British youngster’s disappearance.

Police believe Brückner was living an “itinerant lifestyle” sleeping in his VW campervan or staying at the homes of people he befriended after being released from a Portuguese prison five months before Madeleine’s abduction.

British and German police have released photographs of a home where Brückner was known to stay which was rented by a German family three miles from Barão de São João.

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The suspect and another man also stayed in a luxury villa owned by German woman six miles from the village. The current owner of the villa, which is run as a luxury Airbnb, said he had not been contacted by police.

Detectives have said that they believe Brückner was breaking into hotel rooms to steal valuables and was drug dealing.

Shortly after Madeleine’s disappearance Brückner arrived in the remote Portuguese village of Foral, 40 miles east of Praia da Luz. Angie Dawes, a British woman, told the Sun on Sunday that he began working as a waiter at a local restaurant owned by a German family.

Her father allowed him to park his camper van in their drive and use their home for showers. Ms Dawes said he insisted on being called Chris.

“Even though he was polite, on every occasion he was weird,” said Ms Dawes, 45. “He would just stare at me in a sleazy way for a minute or two without saying a word and not release his gaze. Later that summer he just disappeared one day never to be seen again.”


Madeleine McCannn disappeared in May 2007 from a resort near to where Brückner was staying
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He also parked his camper at a rented villa in Foral which was used by a German woman for a rehabilitation programme for troubled teenagers.

Lia Silva, the villa’s landlord, told the Mail on Sunday that the German tenant and her young daughter abandoned the villa in 2009, leaving behind syringes and bricks of hashish in a shoebox. Neither Ms Dawe or Ms Silva have been interviewed by police.

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Brückner returned to Germany in late 2007 but made regular trips back to the Algarve. In 2015 he sold the VW T3 Westfalia camper van to the German owner of a scrapyard three miles from Foral.

Brückner had arrived in Portugual in 1995 after fleeing a jail sentence in Germany for the sexual abuse of children. He lived in a rented farmhouse on the outskirts of Praia da Luz.

Witnesses have described seeing a man matching Brückner’s description monitoring the Ocean Club complex where the McCann family was staying in the days before Madeleine’s abduction. Some witnesses believe he may have had an accomplice who was driving a van similar to his VW camper.

He fled to Portugal again 2016 while facing prosecution in Germany for sexually abusing a child. He was extradited in June 2017 and spent 15 months in jail.

Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman after breaking into her villa about half a mile from the McCann’s holiday apartment.

That witness description appears to be quite unequivocal in clearing up at least two points.
  • Brueckner was identified as one of the two blonde men:
    How many independent witnesses have given that information to the police one wonders.
  • One was described as being blue eyed.
    The other was described as being green eyed.
Sometimes the much maligned British press do get their research right.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline sadie

Take a note of the 2014 date here.  This is at a time when things were kicking off regarding Scotland Yard interest in the spate of burglaries in the Algarve at the time and the suspicions about Brueckner being flagged up by the local police in Germany 2013.

Apartment key theft cover-up by resort staff in Madeleine McCann case
KEYS to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost shortly before she vanished, it was claimed last night.
By JAMES MURRAY
00:00, Sun, Feb 9, 2014
However, police were not informed about the loss of potentially crucial evidence which could unlock the seven-year mystery.

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys.

Amid claims that Portuguese police are about to arrest three former workers at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, based on information gathered by Scotland Yard, we tracked down a former maintenance worker at the complex whose revelations could change the direction of the international investigation.

The retired man, whose identity we have agreed to protect, said: “I have kept this to myself for long enough, so now it is right to tell people what happened.

“There was another maintenance worker at the Ocean Club who said he had lost a set of keys for the whole of block five.”

Kate and Gerry McCann, their twins Sean and Amelie and eldest daughter Madeleine, were staying in apartment 5a in the block, where there had been a spate of burglaries in the weeks before she vanished.

The former Ocean Club worker revealed: “I remember my colleague telling some of us the keys to that block had been lost.

“He told us about it in the week when the child was taken but I cannot remember the exact day. In the maintenance department we kept duplicates of all keys to the apartments.

“They were on a long cable and very clearly marked and we kept them in a safe.

“If there was a problem, a water leak, a gas leak, it was important for us to have entry to apartments if the owners or guests were out.

“When the man told us about the lost keys, he started crying. He was very upset. He was worried about losing his job, I think, and he did not want others to know about it.

“After the child disappeared, we all had to give statements to the police but I did not mention the keys had been lost because I did not think it was relevant.”

Shortly after Madeleine went missing, the world’s media descended on the Ocean Club and staff were told not to speak to journalists and to co-operate fully with police.

It was widely reported then that someone may have entered 5a through unlocked patio doors so people were not suggesting stolen duplicate keys could have been used to gain access through the front door.

The man said: “This has been on my mind for a long time and you are the first person I have told about it. I did not want to get the other man into trouble, I suppose.

"I didn’t really like the man and I didn’t want trouble from him. He was always doing nasty pranks. Once he put fibreglass in my work trousers which is not nice because it rubs against the skin and hurts.

“He was a young, confident man and I was a lot older than him and we just didn’t get on. In fact, he was the reason I left the job. After the little girl was taken, the atmosphere was really bad. It was not a good place to work.”

The Sunday Express has seen the statement the man gave to Portuguese police shortly after Madeleine was taken on the evening of May 3, 2007 ,and there is no mention of him stating keys had gone missing.

A Portuguese newspaper reported last week that police were particularly interested in a driver at the Ocean Club who dropped guests at the apartments after they arrived from Faro airport.

The man said: “On that night I was asked to do some driving because the man who was supposed to do the driving did not arrive at work. I remember ringing my wife and telling her I would be late home that night.”

Now that the man has come forward with new information he is likely to have to give a more detailed statement to police.

The Sunday Express tracked down the maintenance worker who allegedly lost the keys, 29-year-old Tiago da Silva, who lives a few miles from Luz in Lagos, a pretty coastal town.

When we put it to him that keys were lost, he paused momentarily before saying: “That is not the case. I can’t remember any keys going missing. The keys in maintenance were kept in a safe and nobody could get to them.”

However, his former colleague insisted: “I know what he told me at the time. The keys for all the blocks were kept on a cable and clearly marked.

“He said he had lost the keys to block five. He told me in the same week when the little girl went missing. I am sure of this.

“From my memory I think they were replaced with duplicate keys for the apartments which were held at reception. I remember all this very clearly. He did not want us to tell people about it, so we didn’t say anything.”

Scotland Yard officers have made about 20 trips to Portugal for their investigation, Operation Grange, into Madeleine’s disappearance when she was approaching her fourth birthday.

Portuguese detectives have carried out inquiries on behalf of the Yard team, which has not been allowed to pursue investigations on the ground.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/458798/Apartment-key-theft-cover-up-by-resort-staff-in-Madeleine-McCann-case

Thanks Brie, but it was out about the keys being missing IIRC (it may just have been a rumour, I can't remember) well before 2014 'cos I can remember referring to them being lost really early on after Madeleine vanished on another forum.

To me, it sounds like The Sunday Express bulling themselves up.   Eleanor is good at remembering things;  do you remember it Elli?   Anyone else ?
« Last Edit: January 08, 2022, 06:07:02 PM by sadie »

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Thanks Brie, but it was out about the keys being missing ( it maybe just have been a rumour, I can't remember) well before 2914 'cos I can remember referring to them being lost really early on after Madeleine vanished on another forum.

To me, it sounds like The Sunday Express bulling themselves up.   Eleanor is good at remembering things;  do you remember it Elli?   Anyone else ?

I remember a statement about an Ocean Club Worker losing keys and that no one wanted to talk about it.  But it was a long time ago.

Offline sadie

That witness description appears to be quite unequivocal in clearing up at least two points.
  • Brueckner was identified as one of the two blonde men:
    How many independent witnesses have given that information to the police one wonders.
  • One was described as being blue eyed.
    The other was described as being green eyed.
Sometimes the much maligned British press do get their research right.

Blond men are not that common, especially two unidentified blond men together.

Could they be the two blond men seen by the Wiltshire sisters on a balcony ovetlooking 5A ?.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-504950/British-witnesses-We-saw-blond-men-balcony-Madeleine-apartment.html


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Two British sisters gave a dramatic account of a pair of strangers watching the Ocean Club pool and tapas bar hours before Madeleine McCann vanished.

In an exclusive interview, Jayne Jensen and Annie Wiltshire told how they saw two blond men in their 30s, standing on the balcony of an empty apartment only a couple of doors away from the McCanns' flat in Praia da Luz.[snip]

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The sisters said they were immediately struck by the behaviour of the two men on the balcony.

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The pair, tanned and in Bermuda shorts, were standing outside the patio doors of a groundfloor apartment, which had been unoccupied all week, and were looking out over the resort's family swimming pool and restaurant area.

Mrs Wiltshire, 58, a mother of two, said: "It was odd because I hadn't seen them before. In May the resort wasn't busy.

Robert Murat

"There were only about 60 of us staying in the apartments and you got to recognise all the other people.

"One of the guys was walking down the steps and as I looked at him, he walked back up and started talking to the other one.

"They had a view of the whole Ocean Club and the McCanns' apartment. It just showed how easy it would be for anyone to use those balconies to watch the area. It has haunted me ever since."
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They also saw Robert Murat out and about that evening.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2022, 06:31:38 PM by sadie »

Offline sadie

I remember a statement about an Ocean Club Worker losing keys and that no one wanted to talk about it.  But it was a long time ago.

Thanks Elli.  I knew you would remember it.

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Maddie suspect Christian Brückner was ‘dealing drugs at teenage parties’ in Portugal
David Brown, Praia da Luz
Sunday June 07 2020, 12.00pm, The Times
Madeleine McCann
A witness said Christian Brückner sold drugs at teenage parties around the village of Barão de São João, close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared
A witness said Christian Brückner sold drugs at teenage parties around the village of Barão de São João, close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared
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A convicted paedophile who is the key suspect in the abduction of Madeleine McCann allegedly used drugs to coerce children into sex in the months before she disappeared.

Christian Brückner is said to have sold marijuana at parties for young teenagers close to the Portuguese holiday apartment where Madeleine was staying in May 2007.

Following Madeleine’s disappearance the German drifter moved to a remote village 40 miles away where he used a different name.


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Before Madeleine’s disappearance Brückner, now 43, sold drugs accompanied by another man, according to a witness. Both men were assumed to be British as they always spoke English.

A witness said he sold drugs at parties held for teenagers in the forests around the village of Barão de São João, five miles north of Praia da Luz where Madeleine was abducted.

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The village has a large German population and is regarded by locals as a “hippy commune” where marijuana is openly smoked. Villagers have confirmed that Brückner was a regular visitor.

The woman said that Brückner used the drug to coerce girls into sex. The Times has not been able to independently verify the witness’s claims.

“That was an exchange of favors,”she told TVI news. “He gave “greens” [marijuana] and in return they gave sex because . . . there was no [other] way to pay.

His accomplice was so similar in appearance that she thought they might be brothers.


Brückner was often seen with another man, both described as tall and fair
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“They were both tall, both were blond, one had green eyes, the other had blue eyes,” she said. “I thought the two of them were English [but] now they are saying that he was German. I always thought they were English, because I heard them speak in English.”

The woman said she does not believe Brückner is involved with Madeleine’s abduction but last saw him shortly before the British youngster’s disappearance.

Police believe Brückner was living an “itinerant lifestyle” sleeping in his VW campervan or staying at the homes of people he befriended after being released from a Portuguese prison five months before Madeleine’s abduction.

British and German police have released photographs of a home where Brückner was known to stay which was rented by a German family three miles from Barão de São João.

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Police seek a ‘knockout blow’ to charge suspect

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It could have been us, so we damned the McCanns

NEWS
What happens next in the McCanns’ 13‑year hunt for justice?

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The suspect and another man also stayed in a luxury villa owned by German woman six miles from the village. The current owner of the villa, which is run as a luxury Airbnb, said he had not been contacted by police.

Detectives have said that they believe Brückner was breaking into hotel rooms to steal valuables and was drug dealing.

Shortly after Madeleine’s disappearance Brückner arrived in the remote Portuguese village of Foral, 40 miles east of Praia da Luz. Angie Dawes, a British woman, told the Sun on Sunday that he began working as a waiter at a local restaurant owned by a German family.

Her father allowed him to park his camper van in their drive and use their home for showers. Ms Dawes said he insisted on being called Chris.

“Even though he was polite, on every occasion he was weird,” said Ms Dawes, 45. “He would just stare at me in a sleazy way for a minute or two without saying a word and not release his gaze. Later that summer he just disappeared one day never to be seen again.”


Madeleine McCannn disappeared in May 2007 from a resort near to where Brückner was staying
EPA
He also parked his camper at a rented villa in Foral which was used by a German woman for a rehabilitation programme for troubled teenagers.

Lia Silva, the villa’s landlord, told the Mail on Sunday that the German tenant and her young daughter abandoned the villa in 2009, leaving behind syringes and bricks of hashish in a shoebox. Neither Ms Dawe or Ms Silva have been interviewed by police.

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Brückner returned to Germany in late 2007 but made regular trips back to the Algarve. In 2015 he sold the VW T3 Westfalia camper van to the German owner of a scrapyard three miles from Foral.

Brückner had arrived in Portugual in 1995 after fleeing a jail sentence in Germany for the sexual abuse of children. He lived in a rented farmhouse on the outskirts of Praia da Luz.

Witnesses have described seeing a man matching Brückner’s description monitoring the Ocean Club complex where the McCann family was staying in the days before Madeleine’s abduction. Some witnesses believe he may have had an accomplice who was driving a van similar to his VW camper.

He fled to Portugal again 2016 while facing prosecution in Germany for sexually abusing a child. He was extradited in June 2017 and spent 15 months in jail.

Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman after breaking into her villa about half a mile from the McCann’s holiday apartment.

So two blond men were seen in Luz and then two blond men were seen in Barão de São João. Eureka! They must be the same men, so it's perfectly fine to say that the men in Luz had the same colour eyes as the men in Barão de São João! Or is that a bit of a mental leap?
England - good effort

Offline Swertigo Virl

So two blond men were seen in Luz and then two blond men were seen in Barão de São João. Eureka! They must be the same men, so it's perfectly fine to say that the men in Luz had the same colour eyes as the men in Barão de São João! Or is that a bit of a mental leap?
If it’s perfectly fine to suggest that Smithman was Gerry McCann then anything goes IMO.
I no longer read nor reply to posts made by those posters I perceive to be WUMS and TROLLS so if you think I'm ignoring you this may be the reason.  Best wishes.

Offline G-Unit

If it’s perfectly fine to suggest that Smithman was Gerry McCann then anything goes IMO.

So you think a journalist seemingly deliberately muddying the waters is comparible to a witness giving his honest opinion do you?
England - good effort

Offline Swertigo Virl

So you think a journalist seemingly deliberately muddying the waters is comparible to a witness giving his honest opinion do you?
Who are you accusing of deliberately muddying the water and to what end?
I no longer read nor reply to posts made by those posters I perceive to be WUMS and TROLLS so if you think I'm ignoring you this may be the reason.  Best wishes.

Offline Brietta

So two blond men were seen in Luz and then two blond men were seen in Barão de São João. Eureka! They must be the same men, so it's perfectly fine to say that the men in Luz had the same colour eyes as the men in Barão de São João! Or is that a bit of a mental leap?

No "mental leap" required.  It seems one witness was close enough to observe the eye colouring of these two guys probably initially noticing the green ones first.

As far as the eye witnesses describing blonde men in Luz are concerned.  Many of them have given good descriptions of the men they saw inclusive of efits and these are the ones we know about, there may be more.

One whom if memory serves me well firmly dismissed Ney from the equation at a time when the media were looking in that direction.  But she had absolutely no qualms in claiming Brueckner as the man she saw.  She was always very definite about her description - so he must have made quite an impression on her.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Who are you accusing of deliberately muddying the water and to what end?

Perhaps it was an innocent mistake. Take the testimony of a witness from Barão de São João and inadvertently place her in Luz.
England - good effort

Offline Brietta

Perhaps it was an innocent mistake. Take the testimony of a witness from Barão de São João and inadvertently place her in Luz.

Where exactly did the journalist do that.
I've only seen you making that suggestion in your post.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Swertigo Virl

Perhaps it was an innocent mistake. Take the testimony of a witness from Barão de São João and inadvertently place her in Luz.
Come again?
I no longer read nor reply to posts made by those posters I perceive to be WUMS and TROLLS so if you think I'm ignoring you this may be the reason.  Best wishes.

Offline G-Unit

No "mental leap" required.  It seems one witness was close enough to observe the eye colouring of these two guys probably initially noticing the green ones first.

As far as the eye witnesses describing blonde men in Luz are concerned.  Many of them have given good descriptions of the men they saw inclusive of efits and these are the ones we know about, there may be more.

One whom if memory serves me well firmly dismissed Ney from the equation at a time when the media were looking in that direction.  But she had absolutely no qualms in claiming Brueckner as the man she saw.  She was always very definite about her description - so he must have made quite an impression on her.

Yes I'm sure you're right. Some anonymous witness went around checking out the eye colours of blond men in Luz. Slightly weird imo, but each to his or her own.
England - good effort