Other High Profile Cases and Persons of Interest > The murder of landscape architect Joanna Yeates in Bristol in December 2010.

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I wanted to start this topic to look at the similarities between the arrest of CJ and the arrest of Dr Vincent Tabak...

Not only that but look at why? and what the Police believed about the case... Had the Police been Tunnel Visioned in this case..??

Had the Police investigated to the fullest other options as to the demise of Joanna Yeates?
They were stuck with that building... Infact they never left that building!!

Was the PIZZA the reason that they took a certain line of inquiry that they didn't venture from???

Was The Pizza the reason that No other viable suspects were swobbed???

Lets look at the building.... The Police already had the knowledge that a previous owner of Flat 1 was a paedophile and had worked at Clifton College and the only other person whom had worked at Clifton College and had access to Flat 1 was CJ...

I believe  someone had hit upon the idea of paedophiles and just didn't let it go.....

The Pizza featured HIGHLY in this case... we all didn't really know what the significance of this item was.. but maybe it was just that... The biggest CLUE they thought they had...

Pizza.. Beer.. Porn... all used to entice young people by paedophiles....
Who really is going to take a Pizza and a Pizza only from the scene of Crime??

I want to look more closely at the reports about this Pizza and why they didn't use information that they had in relation to it....

CJ was an easy target (IMO) for the Police... he was eccentic, he lived in the building and he had ties to Flat 1 in many different ways...

But I believe that the Police under estimated CJ and thought that because they had:

(1): Opportunity

(2): Ability to gain access

(3): A connection to a paedophile, by the mere fact he'd purchased this flat and had worked at the same college...
They went down that road...

There major problem with CJ and also Dr Vincent Tabak was that little old adage Motive???...

They could put certain pieces together, but they never had a Motive with either of their suspects....
Did a stretched an massively under pressure police force who wanted a result fail to look at other possible suspects..

Personally I believe they did... I believe they had a bee in their bonnet and didn't let it go!!!

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John:

--- Quote from: Nine on April 18, 2017, 10:32:21 AM ---I wanted to start this topic to look at the similarities between the arrest of CJ and the arrest of Dr Vincent Tabak...

Not only that but look at why? and what the Police believed about the case... Had the Police been Tunnel Visioned in this case..??

Had the Police investigated to the fullest other options as to the demise of Joanna Yeates?
They were stuck with that building... Infact they never left that building!!

Was the PIZZA the reason that they took a certain line of inquiry that they didn't venture from???

Was The Pizza the reason that No other viable suspects were swobbed???

Lets look at the building.... The Police already had the knowledge that a previous owner of Flat 1 was a paedophile and had worked at Clifton College and the only other person whom had worked at Clifton College and had access to Flat 1 was CJ...

I believe  someone had hit upon the idea of paedophiles and just didn't let it go.....

The Pizza featured HIGHLY in this case... we all didn't really know what the significance of this item was.. but maybe it was just that... The biggest CLUE they thought they had...

Pizza.. Beer.. Porn... all used to entice young people by paedophiles....
Who really is going to take a Pizza and a Pizza only from the scene of Crime??

I want to look more closely at the reports about this Pizza and why they didn't use information that they had in relation to it....

CJ was an easy target (IMO) for the Police... he was eccentic, he lived in the building and he had ties to Flat 1 in many different ways...

But I believe that the Police under estimated CJ and thought that because they had:

(1): Opportunity

(2): Ability to gain access

(3): A connection to a paedophile, by the mere fact he'd purchased this flat and had worked at the same college...
They went down that road...

There major problem with CJ and also Dr Vincent Tabak was that little old adage Motive???...

They could put certain pieces together, but they never had a Motive with either of their suspects....
Did a stretched an massively under pressure police force who wanted a result fail to look at other possible suspects..

Personally I believe they did... I believe they had a bee in their bonnet and didn't let it go!!!

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Clearly both are men and were successful professionals in their own right in their chosen careers, neither would have ordinarily come to police attention in a murder case had they not been associated to some extent with the victim.

I recall thinking at the time that the retired teacher who was arrested first, was the perfect patsy for police who were facing ever increasing pressure to solve the murder.  I remember Sky News intercepting him outside his home and treating him very shoddily.

Vincent Tabak on the other hand never had to face the press and media to the extent that CJ did, that at least spared him some notoriety.  Tabak's career is over as a result of his own actions whereas CJ has found a new lucrative career to take him out of his early retirement as a teacher.  Strange old world!

mrswah:
I agree that CJ was the "perfect patsy". He was eccentric, he was Joanna's landlord (and therefore, they could have found his DNA and his fingerprints in her flat, had they wanted to), he had no alibi,he had a car,  he was also old enough to be questioned about Glenis Carruthers--------and I bet the Avon and Somerset Police would love to solve that one, after all this time.

I believe the friend who got CJ a lawyer is a former student, who trained as a barrister, but who doesn't practise as one.

John:

--- Quote from: mrswah on April 18, 2017, 12:21:48 PM ---I agree that CJ was the "perfect patsy". He was eccentric, he was Joanna's landlord (and therefore, they could have found his DNA and his fingerprints in her flat, had they wanted to), he had no alibi,he had a car,  he was also old enough to be questioned about Glenis Carruthers--------and I bet the Avon and Somerset Police would love to solve that one, after all this time.

I believe the friend who got CJ a lawyer is a former student, who trained as a barrister, but who doesn't practise as one.

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It was CJ's property which the murdered girl and her boyfriend had rented so there was every reason to believe that his (landlord's) DNA would have been found therein.  By contact, that DNA could have been transferred quite innocently to the victim so it just doesn't bear thinking about had CSI found that DNA on the victim or her clothing. Without an alibi we could have been looking at yet another miscarriage of justice.

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--- Quote from: John on April 18, 2017, 12:44:16 PM ---It was CJ's property which the murdered girl and her boyfriend had rented so there was every reason to believe that his (landlord's) DNA would have been found therein.  By contact, that DNA could have been transferred quite innocently to the victim so it just doesn't bear thinking about had CSI found that DNA on the victim or her clothing. Without an alibi we could have been looking at yet another miscarriage of justice.

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Agreed by contact...

And just as plausible Dr Vincent Tabak's DNA could also be contact... Didn't they all share the same entrance to collect the post?????

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