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Wonderfulspam:

Kyle Rittenhouse.  Murder or Self Defence?

On August 25, 2020, amid the Kenosha unrest, Kyle Rittenhouse, a then 17-year-old male from Antioch, Illinois, shot and killed two people and wounded another during multiple confrontations at two locations.

He was armed with an AR-15 style rifle and one of those shot had a handgun.

At the first location, Rittenhouse was pursued by a group, a gunshot was fired into the air by a third party, a person lunged at Rittenhouse and attempted to take his rifle, and Rittenhouse fired at him four times. At the second location, Rittenhouse tripped while fleeing, three people rushed toward Rittenhouse and physically confronted him, and Rittenhouse fired another four times.

Kenosha resident Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Silver Lake resident Anthony Huber, 26, were killed, while West Allis resident Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, lost his bicep.

Two other people present at the protest also chased and confronted Rittenhouse, and he either did not shoot at them, or missed.

Rittenhouse was arrested and charged with multiple counts of homicide and unlawful possession of a firearm, while Dominick Black was arrested and charged with unlawfully supplying Rittenhouse's rifle.

Rittenhouse's attorneys say he acted in self-defense upon hearing firearm discharge and in response to the numerous physical confrontations by protesters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting


A trial date is now set for November 2021


Watch the video evidence & you decide.  Murder or Self Defence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkTnQfjRvk0

Wonderfulspam:
My opinion,

1) The first shooting was justifiable self defence, the rioter was pursuing him & posed an imminent threat.

2) The skateboarder was about to skull smash Rittenhouse & posed an imminent threat.

3) The armed man appeared to surrender, lowered his fire arm, Rittenhouse lowered his, then the man went for  Rittenhouse again, only Rittenhouse was faster to draw.

IMO, all 3 instances were legally justified self defence.

This will be another interesting trial & is bound to split opinion in the states IMO

Miss Taken Identity:

--- Quote from: Wonderfulspam on April 17, 2021, 10:09:29 AM ---My opinion,

1) The first shooting was justifiable self defence, the rioter was pursuing him & posed an imminent threat.

2) The skateboarder was about to skull smash Rittenhouse & posed an imminent threat.

3) The armed man appeared to surrender, lowered his fire arm, Rittenhouse lowered his, then the man went for  Rittenhouse again, only Rittenhouse was faster to draw.

IMO, all 3 instances were legally justified self defence.

This will be another interesting trial & is bound to split opinion in the states IMO

--- End quote ---


I agree all 3 self defence.

Vertigo Swirl:
Can we have some context for this incident please, like the circumstances leading up to the incidents.  Why was he pursued, why was he armed in the first place, etc.

Wonderfulspam:

--- Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on April 18, 2021, 07:26:36 PM ---Can we have some context for this incident please, like the circumstances leading up to the incidents.  Why was he pursued, why was he armed in the first place, etc.

--- End quote ---

It isn't entirely clear, but what is clear is that an angry mental patient who wanted to burn down a petrol station chased after a dude who was armed with an AR-15. Probably not the most sensible thing to do but then we have to make allowances because he was mental.

https://youtu.be/tkTnQfjRvk0?t=158

And I imagine he carried a gun like a lot of other people at the riot, to defend himself.

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