Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others

[Angelo222]

The hateful discrimination this thread has opened is shocking.

Nora's parents endeavoured to give their profoundly disabled daughter as normal and happy a life as they possibly could.

That involved her sharing family life including holidays ~ the fact that she was obviously able to do so is testament what a wonderful job the family had devoted to that inclusiveness.

You do know the mother didn't even travel to Malaysia with Nora?

[Venturi Swirl]

Obviously not clear to the Coroner who delivered the judgement.

LBT Global did not know Nora so their opinion is just that- opinion.

Their opinion is based on what her parents said, does that count for nothing?

[Venturi Swirl]

At least she would still be alive now

What sort of life is permanent incarceration  in an institution?

[Venturi Swirl]

I agree, another load of bollocks. The parents downplayed Nora's abilities and that is suspicion in itself imo.

How do you know they downplayed her abilities?  If they lied then this would be known by all Nora’s family, friends, teachers, doctors etc.  Do you REALLY think her parents would be that stupid?

[Venturi Swirl]

You do know the mother didn't even travel to Malaysia with Nora?

So what?

[Eleanor]

You do know the mother didn't even travel to Malaysia with Nora?

Do tell.  What did she do?  Stuff Nora in a suitcase?

[Wonderfulspam]

How do you know they downplayed her abilities?  If they lied then this would be known by all Nora’s family, friends, teachers, doctors etc.  Do you REALLY think her parents would be that stupid?

Her parents told the police she could walk no more than 20 feet without assistance from another person, due to problems with her balance.

& Yet......

Superintendenent Besar told the inquest: “Based on footage of the family’s arrival at KLIA, if I am not mistaken, they could be seen heading towards a particular location together to wait for someone to arrive (to pick them up).

“In the footage, the missing person could be seen walking normally with her luggage like anyone of her age”.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12504238/nora-quoirin-cctv-walking-death-jungle-inquest-alive-search/

[Venturi Swirl]

Her parents told the police she could walk no more than 20 feet without assistance from another person, due to problems with her balance.

& Yet......

Superintendenent Besar told the inquest: “Based on footage of the family’s arrival at KLIA, if I am not mistaken, they could be seen heading towards a particular location together to wait for someone to arrive (to pick them up).

“In the footage, the missing person could be seen walking normally with her luggage like anyone of her age”.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12504238/nora-quoirin-cctv-walking-death-jungle-inquest-alive-search/

Perhaps she used her luggage (if it was a wheelie case) as a walking / balancing aid?

[Eleanor]

Perhaps she used her luggage (if it was a wheelie case) as a walking / balancing aid?

Yep.  It's amazing.  I can't walk very far these days but I can fairly zip around for ages pushing a Lawn Mower.  Which is why I like cutting grass.

This is basically very simple.

[Wonderfulspam]

Perhaps she used her luggage (if it was a wheelie case) as a walking / balancing aid?

There's no mention anywhere of her ever using walking sticks, a walker or a wheelchair.

Maybe she used to take a luggage trolley with her everywhere she went.

[Venturi Swirl]

There's no mention anywhere of her ever using walking sticks, a walker or a wheelchair.

Maybe she used to take a luggage trolley with her everywhere she went.

So the parents are bare-faced liars and all Nora’s family, friends, teachers, therapists and doctors are complicit in the lie, through their silence?  Wow.

[G-Unit]

"Soon after they arrived on Aug 3, Nora Anne went on a walkabout towards the deer enclosure and returned informing her mother she was attracted to the animals.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stranger-approached-nora-quoirin-family-22586180

So she walked from Sora House to the deer enclosure, however far that was.

[Wonderfulspam]

"Soon after they arrived on Aug 3, Nora Anne went on a walkabout towards the deer enclosure and returned informing her mother she was attracted to the animals.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stranger-approached-nora-quoirin-family-22586180

So she walked from Sora House to the deer enclosure, however far that was.

Where are our google earth experts?

[Venturi Swirl]

“Meabh insisted that had Nóra wandered outside she would have frozen on the spot and waited, adding that the teenager had difficulty walking unassisted due to weak core strength and she would tire easily.

These statements were endorsed by Michael Reeves, the head teacher of Nóra's school in Balham, south London, who said the 15-year-old would not have had the confidence to walk off on her own.

He said: "Physically she was one of the most vulnerable pupils in the school, because of her balance issues.

Nóra's gait was quite fragile. She really didn't have the confidence to walk off by herself.


The idea of Nóra climbing over fencing is unimaginable. She might have climbed over something a foot or so high, but no more than that."

[Wonderfulspam]

“Meabh insisted that had Nóra wandered outside she would have frozen on the spot and waited, adding that the teenager had difficulty walking unassisted due to weak core strength and she would tire easily.

These statements were endorsed by Michael Reeves, the head teacher of Nóra's school in Balham, south London, who said the 15-year-old would not have had the confidence to walk off on her own.

He said: "Physically she was one of the most vulnerable pupils in the school, because of her balance issues.

Nóra's gait was quite fragile. She really didn't have the confidence to walk off by herself.


The idea of Nóra climbing over fencing is unimaginable. She might have climbed over something a foot or so high, but no more than that."

Nora clearly had some doubters, but I think she proved she could overcome many obstacles.