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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #660 on: February 25, 2020, 02:48:50 PM »
That's what I said.

you did...and teh conclusion was how could someone be violently mudered in a basement...a body dragged 70 ft...yet not one piece of forensic evidence,. Did you mention there were two cadaver dogs and only one alerted

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #661 on: February 25, 2020, 03:00:27 PM »
you did...and teh conclusion was how could someone be violently mudered in a basement...a body dragged 70 ft...yet not one piece of forensic evidence,. Did you mention there were two cadaver dogs and only one alerted
500 gauge visqueen, a roll of gaffer tape and a predilection for violence. The scratches on the back of his hands give away the method, which also explains the lack of DNA.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #662 on: February 25, 2020, 03:10:39 PM »
I reckon the bark of a dog can. Woof!
....and wasn't the dog right in the Shannon Matthews case? The couch had a dead dude on it and was 2nd hand? Not sure about the case, so......
I think you've missed the point.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline John

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #663 on: February 25, 2020, 03:29:58 PM »
You can’t identify an absent cadaver by the bark of a dog.  If Shannon Matthews had been sold into white slavery never to be seen again a jury might conclude she’d been murdered in some grotty flat in Dewsbury, and was not out there somewhere in the big wide world waiting to be rescued.

Every situation is different. In the Suzanne Pilley case the circumstantial evidence is compelling even without the alerts by the cadaver dog in the office cellar and in the boot of David Gilroy's car. The fact that there were over one hundred miles unaccounted for in his trip up to the Scottish Highlands and that his car had three cracked coil springs and moss and soil clinging to its underside is imo pretty damning.  Gilroy obviously told a pack of lies to the police investigators and subsequently refused to give evidence on his own behalf, an indicator of guilt in most situations.

IMO, honest people have nothing to fear by taking the stand.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2020, 03:37:03 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #664 on: February 25, 2020, 03:43:46 PM »
500 gauge visqueen, a roll of gaffer tape and a predilection for violence. The scratches on the back of his hands give away the method, which also explains the lack of DNA.

With 500 gauge there would be no cadaver odour in the car

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #665 on: February 25, 2020, 03:48:13 PM »
With 500 gauge there would be no cadaver odour in the car
That cannot be ascertained.
Apart from the dog alert.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #666 on: February 25, 2020, 04:23:58 PM »
Every situation is different. In the Suzanne Pilley case the circumstantial evidence is compelling even without the alerts by the cadaver dog in the office cellar and in the boot of David Gilroy's car. The fact that there were over one hundred miles unaccounted for in his trip up to the Scottish Highlands and that his car had three cracked coil springs and moss and soil clinging to its underside is imo pretty damning.  Gilroy obviously told a pack of lies to the police investigators and subsequently refused to give evidence on his own behalf, an indicator of guilt in most situations.

IMO, honest people have nothing to fear by taking the stand.
As the owner of the Miscarriage of Justice Forum who claims to have suffered his own miscarriage of justice I find your last sentence quite odd.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #667 on: February 25, 2020, 08:17:39 PM »
As the owner of the Miscarriage of Justice Forum who claims to have suffered his own miscarriage of justice I find your last sentence quite odd.
Maybe it's a reflective and philosophical....
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #668 on: February 25, 2020, 09:03:03 PM »
Maybe it's a reflective and philosophical....
what?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #669 on: February 25, 2020, 09:21:19 PM »
what?
Maybe he's come to terms with his particular injustice and is reflecting.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #670 on: February 25, 2020, 10:16:14 PM »
Maybe he's come to terms with his particular injustice and is reflecting.
Maybe we should just wait and see what John has to say about it rather than guessing.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #671 on: February 26, 2020, 07:33:16 AM »
Maybe we should just wait and see what John has to say about it rather than guessing.
Yeh, maybe, and maybe if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle, but she hasn't, so she's not.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #672 on: February 26, 2020, 08:05:37 AM »
Yeh, maybe, and maybe if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle, but she hasn't, so she's not.
What a stupid response, imo.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #673 on: February 26, 2020, 08:15:18 AM »
What a stupid response, imo.

Thank you.
.....yeeeeeeanyway, back on topic.
Dogs, right? Amiright? Evidence.
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Offline barrier

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #674 on: February 29, 2020, 03:55:40 PM »
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.