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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #90 on: January 05, 2021, 10:07:45 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:01:39 AM
It's now a legal fact.

Legal fact s can be subject to change
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Offline jassi

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #91 on: January 05, 2021, 10:11:27 AM »
Perhaps if sufficient fresh evidence can be forthcoming, the verdict can be changed.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #92 on: January 05, 2021, 10:22:10 AM »
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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #93 on: January 05, 2021, 10:22:39 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 05, 2021, 10:07:45 AM
Legal fact s can be subject to change
Agreed. But it's now not an opinion as it stands, as you stated, it's a legal fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #94 on: January 05, 2021, 10:35:15 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:22:39 AM
Agreed. But it's now not an opinion as it stands, as you stated, it's a legal fact.

A legal fact doesn't make it a fact...it's an opinion
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #95 on: January 05, 2021, 10:35:31 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:22:39 AM
Agreed. But it's now not an opinion as it stands, as you stated, it's a legal fact.
So legally speaking what factually happened to Nora Quoirin?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #96 on: January 05, 2021, 10:45:22 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 05, 2021, 10:35:15 AM
A legal fact doesn't make it a fact...it's an opinion

It's only an opinion Brueckner raped anyone.
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Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #97 on: January 05, 2021, 10:48:18 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 05, 2021, 10:35:31 AM
So legally speaking what factually happened to Nora Quoirin?
Whatever the coroner stated as the verdict.
If new information comes to light, then that could be reviewed.
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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #98 on: January 05, 2021, 10:55:42 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 05, 2021, 10:35:15 AM
A legal fact doesn't make it a fact...it's an opinion
Yes it does. It's fact. Even better than that, it's legally accepted.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #99 on: January 05, 2021, 10:56:44 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:48:18 AM
Whatever the coroner stated as the verdict.
If new information comes to light, then that could be reviewed.

Not very definite was she.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #100 on: January 05, 2021, 10:57:01 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:48:18 AM
Whatever the coroner stated as the verdict.
If new information comes to light, then that could be reviewed.
The coroner stated that the verdict was "most likely misadventure" - that doesn't sound like a fact to me.
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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #101 on: January 05, 2021, 10:59:23 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 05, 2021, 10:57:01 AM
The coroner stated that the verdict was "most likely misadventure" - that doesn't sound like a fact to me.
It's a verdict. Misadventure; one of several options open to him to deliver.
End of. Fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #102 on: January 05, 2021, 10:59:42 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
Yes it does. It's fact. Even better than that, it's legally accepted.

Being a legal fact doesn't make it a fact
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #103 on: January 05, 2021, 11:03:30 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:59:23 AM
It's a verdict. Misadventure; one of several options open to him to deliver.
End of. Fact.
Most likely.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #104 on: January 05, 2021, 11:03:40 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 05, 2021, 10:59:23 AM
It's a verdict. Misadventure; one of several options open to him to deliver.
End of. Fact.

Her.  Fact.
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